Would have been more expensive, but of course a better deal.
Viktor Gyökeres - Sporting Striker
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Haven't seen anything off him, could he be the next big thing?
Some striker do tend to be late bloomers, Lewandowski comes to mind.
Some striker do tend to be late bloomers, Lewandowski comes to mind.
That makes no sense at all. Players evolve and some of them are late bloomers.
Sporting is known for having one of the best developing academies / staff.
Lewandowski became a world-class player when he was 27/28 years old and before that, he was scoring around 20 goals or a lot less per season.
It doesn't really matter that much how Gyökeres was before, it matters how he developed
Anyone that watched him for Coventy you could see this coming a mile off.
His strenght, pace, power, finishing and movement is first class.
Not many better strikers in Europe currently and some people are suggesting he's shite.
His strenght, pace, power, finishing and movement is first class.
Not many better strikers in Europe currently and some people are suggesting he's shite.
Is the 'Global Transfer News expert' someone whose words you feel have weight?
Cheeky question in the post-match interview about meeting Ruben in the future - gave a non-answer sadly (I mean, what else is he meant to say?)
Ohh absolutely
Normally I agree, but at a certain point you need more goalscorers who can actually finish in the squad. Hojlund is the only quality finisher we currently have and he basically never gets chances apart from the ones he creates himself. Majority of our shots are taken by Bruno and Garnacho, neither of whom are good finishers and are generally erratic in front of net
Lewandowski wasn't a late bloomer. He scored a ton of goals for Dortmund in his early 20s.
He wouldn't score nearly as many goals for us under Ten Hag. That is crystal clear. It doesn't matter how few goals we scored when we don't have players that supply the striker.
I still want him though. He'd be great and Højlund would have another Scandinavian to learn from.
I still want him though. He'd be great and Højlund would have another Scandinavian to learn from.
Can't wait until we spend 100 million on him and he scores 10 goals a season.
That's the spirit
Agreed. We need two quality strikers, which is doubly important given the amount of fixtures and injuries over a full season. This also underscores the absurdity of not sacking ETH after the FA Cup, before he could buy more players over the summer, which has now resulted in a situation where Zirkzee may wind up the odd man out.
thats probably 150m right there for those two lads.....damn good players but we don't have the cash for this
Gyokeres has a €60-70m release clause.
Lewandowski had a 0.56 goal-per-game ratio in Dortmund. It wasn't horrible but it wasn't exactly world-class numbers either
that low? thought i read it was 90m
Here’s an idea, instead of arguing about hypotheticals about service for Hojlund currently or about Hojlund doing the same in the Portuguese league if given the chance, why don’t we wait until the manager who is currently overseeing this fantastic form Gyokeres is in, actually comes in here and has most of a season to get the team playing his way and then actually see how Hojlund does in his system and then make the call in the summer on this.
(I do want him though, can’t have enough goals up front and for the 60/70 of million seems well worth it)
(I do want him though, can’t have enough goals up front and for the 60/70 of million seems well worth it)
Supposedly the release clause is that high but there's an agreement he can leave in the summer for less.
Why the feck would City be interested
ok so it is around that 90-100m but makes you wonder if that "agreement" could change with Amorim leaving the club to take the job at United
can't imagine they'd want to lose both in the same season
In his first full season at 22, he scored 22 goals, then 24 and 20 in his next two seasons. Not sure how that can be put under the late bloomer category. The man scored 4 goals against Real Madrid in the semi finals at the age of 24.
Jamie Vardy, now that is a late bloomer!
Your tone and smugness has been quite frankly awful. No-one has suggested that, and you’ve claimed he scored more goals than people have brain cells. He looks absolutely lethal and all I said was I can understand people who have reservations.
Appreciate the kind words.
I was speaking about the direct comparison in the post I qouted. Who knows how good this lad is, I'd temper expectations given how he got on in the Championship and also how players like Bas Dost, Nunez and a 35 year old Jonas did in this league.
Still we definitely need goals and I find it nuts that finding a regular 20+ striker in his prime hasn't been a priority. So if Amorim and Ashworth think this lad will be that then I'm all for it. Also fine if he develops Hojlund.
If you think Lewandowski only became world class at 28 I'd suggest you maybe didn't watch him at Dortmund. I believe he was 24 when he was rattling 4 past Madrid in the Champions League Semi Final. Scoring 30 plus a season for a good couple of years prior.
Lewa had his first big season when he was 23.
He has experience scoring in the championship
Good call. I watched him for Poznan once and thought he was interesting, bought him on one of my FM saves too. Followed his career when he went to Dortmund with some interest.
To stop their rivals getting him
Amorim didn't say he doesn't want to bring Gyokeres, he just said that it would be very difficult (100M€ release clause). That doesn't calm my fear of grabbing him agains't Sporting's will.
I figure there's other positions that are more of a priority, so I don't see Man Utd being able to bring him in the near future. But I believe 100% that he would have imediate impact, no matter how much some people try to downplay him for playing in a less competitive league.
I figure there's other positions that are more of a priority, so I don't see Man Utd being able to bring him in the near future. But I believe 100% that he would have imediate impact, no matter how much some people try to downplay him for playing in a less competitive league.
I'll argue that without too many doubts.
They have 3 UCL level teams and the rest is weaker than your average Championship side. The Championship usually as at least 4-5 teams that are PL level. The rest of the Portuguese teams other than the big 3 and maybe Braga, couldn't even come close to getting promotion in the Championship.
So now Gyökeres plays for an UCL level team vs on average worse teams than he played against for Coventry, a team that's nowhere near UCL level.
Amorim will turn Hojlund into a better player than Gyökeres. The latter is really overrated.
Trincao is a player I've liked for a long time. He impressed me at Barca, Wolves and Sporting, so I'm not too surprised to see that he could potentially be one of the players Amorim brings here. I'm all for it.
From Sporting's perspective, hopefully they basically tell any clubs that make offers for their star players including Gyokeres below their release clauses during the January transfer window to get lost, and to come back in the summer for proper and workable negotiations.
Assuming they don't fall off a cliff post-Amorim and are very much in the hunt for a first league title defence in 71 years, they need to avoid a January fire sale.
Gyokeres spending 2 full seasons at Sporting before moving on, seems appropriate.
Assuming they don't fall off a cliff post-Amorim and are very much in the hunt for a first league title defence in 71 years, they need to avoid a January fire sale.
Gyokeres spending 2 full seasons at Sporting before moving on, seems appropriate.
I have no idea whether these sides could get promotion from the Championship, but I think you are overrating the quality in The Championship. You'd be lucky if the Championship has 1 PL level side let alone AT LEAST 4-5 PL level teams.
Last seasons promoted teams contained historically bad PL teams.
Almost every year at least one promoted team goes straight back down and this year 2 of the newly promoted sides have yet to register a win.
I think the only thing that makes the striker position not the highest priority is if Hojlund really kicks on once Amorim joins us and shows he can play that same role as Gyokeres does (on the surface level they do look similar players). If that happens, then fine we can focus elsewhere. However if things continue on as they are, then getting a fairly consistent goalscorer definitely looks our highest priority.
Of course, the hope is that Hojlund does step up so we don't have to spend any more money on that position (or at least not big money anyway).
Lewandowski was banging in 30+ goals a season at Dortmund when he was 23-24. Was he really a late bloomer?
I think he's great and will be in the PL next season. Most of the big clubs will be in the market for a striker and they're a rare commodity.