Rumour doing the rounds lately.
Vidic
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Rumour doing the rounds lately.
Sir Alex Ferguson: "Vidic has started training which is good news. I wouldn't be adverse to playing him on Wednesday [v Cluj]."
I don't particularly want to see him back against Cluj, I don't think. Whilst that may sound ridiculous, we don't want to rush him back again like we did at the start of the season.
Being 3 weeks ahead of schedule with this kind of injury is a bit optimistic I reckon. Hopefully I'm wrong though and he'll be fighting fit for the busy Christmas spell of matches.
Being 3 weeks ahead of schedule with this kind of injury is a bit optimistic I reckon. Hopefully I'm wrong though and he'll be fighting fit for the busy Christmas spell of matches.
Definitely, and this time round we don't have to, because we have four fit CBs, and three of them at least are playing really well at the moment. So let's get him to peak fitness, and ease him back in as gently as possible.
Didn't they say the last time that there were 'no problems' with him in training?
Rushing him back would be madness. If it is based around having him available for City then even more so. Give him a bit of time and we'll hopefully have the real Vidic back.
I'd rather we didn't rush him back.
The club really should hire some medical professionals to help the manager make a decision about when to play him.
Wait wasn't vidic meant to be out until after christmas last we heard. Good news if he will be back sooner, but it makes me think our medical teams isn't exactly sure on what to do with him. Though I can see him forcing himself back early as he doesn't look the sort to want to listen to someone telling him he can't play if he thinks he can.
I really hope he isn't being rushed back, and that he has started training again because all is ok.
This can't be true - it is against the rules for Manchester United to have all five senior centre-backs fit at the same time; madness to suggest otherwise.
I agree with the cautious approach - the City game would be too much too soon I think, so give him until after that as we'll need everyone for the Xmas period.
I agree with the cautious approach - the City game would be too much too soon I think, so give him until after that as we'll need everyone for the Xmas period.
His return is a couple of weeks earlier than expected as Fergie said it would be around Christmas. With Smalling and Jones back in squad I doubt they will rush him back, well I hope they don't as we are not desperate for cover at the moment.
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I'm with you on this as well. Even IF we had him back for the Derby on the 9th he wouldn't be as sharp. A Derby in December won't decide the title, it's the one in April we'll need him fully fit for.
No real panic, 4 centre halfs fit, give him as long as he needs.
Ah fair enough then. I agree I don't want him rushed back. If he misses a few extra games as a precaution so be it. No point brining him back early just to have him out again.
Personally I wouldn't want to see him against City on the 9th. Just back from injury he isn't likely to be as sharp as normal and that could cost us in that game
I only hope that we don't rush him coming back before he's ready, especially now that we have 4 center backs fit.
Give him time, and when he returns we will be much better in defense.
Give him time, and when he returns we will be much better in defense.
I think he will return around Christmas time, we are playing three games between boxing day and new years so we will need to give our CB a rest.
With our luck, after the Reading game we'll only have Carrick and jailhousecleverley fit.
You'd have to assume he isn't being rushed back and has genuinely made a quick recovery. The Cluj game would be an excellent opportunity to ease him back.
Echo the sentiments of not rushing him. To be honest, he may, or should, in my view - struggle to get back in the team, especially at anything below his best.
Well I'm just glad he's so close to fitness myself.
Great news. Im sick of United getting bullied by big men. Really sick of every feckin cross causing all sorts of problems. United haven't been like this since 2005.
Vidic is so good in the air he basically nullifies any aerial threat from the West Ham's, Stoke's and Newcastle's of the world.
He's the best I've seen.
Vidic is so good in the air he basically nullifies any aerial threat from the West Ham's, Stoke's and Newcastle's of the world.
He's the best I've seen.
Was just announced on Newstalk Radio in Ireland that he's captaining the team tomorrow night. Bit surprised to see him back, but I suppose he's better starting and can come off if needed.
Wonder who'll lose out. I can see Evans starting with Vidic tomorrow giving Rio a rest and then maybe Rio and Vidic on Sunday. Thoughts?
Wonder who'll lose out. I can see Evans starting with Vidic tomorrow giving Rio a rest and then maybe Rio and Vidic on Sunday. Thoughts?
I hope Vidic isn't being rushed back for the city game. I know we have issues at the back, and I just hope that Fergie hasn't made a knee-jerk reaction to it.
If however he is fit, then great news!
If however he is fit, then great news!
I fear that's exactly what's happening.
SAf said he'll miss the game against cluj and against city.
He's not playing against Cluj or against City
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-12-04/vidic-steps-up-united-comeback/
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2012-12-04/vidic-steps-up-united-comeback/
I think due to rushing him pack previously, things will be done different this time (at least I hope so). We have six fit defenders at the moment (not including youth players). Regardless of our current defensive woes, we have the numbers to not need to rush someone back who isn't going to be 100% for a good number of weeks yet.
The Cluj game is perfect for him to get 60-70 minutes and then be left out of the City game. We should just play Jones, Smalling, Vidic, Buttner (and bring on Wootton) against Cluj, then give the back four of Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, and Evra another go. The one thing that back line has is a bit of consistency even if performance hasn't been great. If they can't gear themselves up for Man City away then the changes and a real kick up the backside should come into play.
I hope Vidic is more of a bit-part player for a little while yet. An hour or so against Cluj as I said, then maybe the same against Sunderland at home (they can barely score a goal anyway). Take it slow and make sure he's fully ready for the Champions League games come February. We usually hit our best form over Christmas and the turn of the year, so I don't think there will be a need to rush it.
Edit: Scratch the Cluj game. A little disappointing but seems like he'll need a couple of reserve games instead of a game like that.
The Cluj game is perfect for him to get 60-70 minutes and then be left out of the City game. We should just play Jones, Smalling, Vidic, Buttner (and bring on Wootton) against Cluj, then give the back four of Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, and Evra another go. The one thing that back line has is a bit of consistency even if performance hasn't been great. If they can't gear themselves up for Man City away then the changes and a real kick up the backside should come into play.
I hope Vidic is more of a bit-part player for a little while yet. An hour or so against Cluj as I said, then maybe the same against Sunderland at home (they can barely score a goal anyway). Take it slow and make sure he's fully ready for the Champions League games come February. We usually hit our best form over Christmas and the turn of the year, so I don't think there will be a need to rush it.
Edit: Scratch the Cluj game. A little disappointing but seems like he'll need a couple of reserve games instead of a game like that.
Disappointing that he's not ready yet but we've got plenty of games left this season. Even missing City doesn't worry me much. Just get him right.
Stupid Newstalk.
Sorry for the false start everyone!
Sorry for the false start everyone!
There were lots of pics with him training with the squad. While he may not be ready this week - which could be a blessing in that Fergie doesn't try to use a not match fit/sharp Vida in the derby - it's great to know that he is close to being back.
As the lads said, I'd much prefer to see him eased back gently into the squad, with a few reserve games and maybe one or two off the bench.
The last thing we need to do now is jeapordise our best defender and one of our MVP's!
Nice vid, Marko.
Make you realize how good he really is.
I think he is needed in our current defence and will bring much needed stability. Having said that i would get him to play in the reserves and pencil him in for a substitute role during the christmas fixtures.
Yes, he really is training.
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