And as I say that he’s stretchered off after a boot to the head
Victor Osimhen
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He was playing in the Europa league with Galatasaray and they’re covering his full wages, the tax is less in Turkey too as far as I know so he’s most likely pocketing more, he’s a money grabber, which is why he was willing to move to Saudi at 26 while being one of Europes most wanted strikers
Genuinely amazing that this has to be pointed out to people
If even Chelsea wouldn’t agree to his wages it says it all tbh mate, money grabber, if we sign him it’ll be another massive mistake
His wage demands and burning bridges have him playing in Turkey at 26
This is so far from the truth it’s unreal
Yea Napoli only have themselves to blame for squandering then having to blow up their best squad in a generation
Doubt
I'm pretty sure he's our main target for the striker position. Just depends on his wages.
if a true quote, the source is very good for anything Turkey related
Sell Garnacho and bring in Osimhen and Cunha. That is such a significant upgrade over our current options.
I expected him to do better for Galatasaray, looking at the top scorers stats for such a weak league.
Yes it would be awful if we got crosses into the box for a competent striker.
14 goals in 19 appearances not good enough for you?
Not really, playing in a very weak league for the best team and so far there are strikers doing better, why are we not looking at them? (Not saying we should btw).
Everything is in context, you would expect a "top striker" to dominate it by a distance, he's not even been the best so far (including per 90).
wow, I mean fair play if that's your opinion that's your opinion.
But I think that's quite disrespectful to the Turkish League, not everything is going to be a walk over, but I think almost a goal a game is nothing to be sniffed at.
What I said was: Chelsea offered less money than Napoli (90mn per week), while offering the prospect of playing in the conference league. Why would that entice anyone at his level? No self-respecting professional in any field would accept an offer that sets them back in every sense except for the "prestige" of playing in the premier league.
Secondly, why move to Chelsea to be stuck playing mid-table football for pretty poor wages when you can take a little detour for a year or two, earn a decent salary, get rid of the obstructive price tag, and then move wherever you want in Europe while still being in your prime?
Finally, it may come as a shock to you, but the basis of professional football is earning an income and all players aspire to earn more of it. No one plays football purely for noble reasons, and every foreign player in the Premier League is either a "money grabber" or a "glory hunter".
If they were to play football for purely noble reasons, they would all stay in their homeland and play for their local team. Your "money grabber" argument is quite silly.
As far as things that need to be pointed out go, there you go. You're welcome.
We don't need to sell Garnacho for that we'll sell Rashy. We already wanted to replace him with Tels so I'm sure we'll revisit that position in the summer.
His numbers this season suggest he's one of the four best goalscoreres in the Super Lig. It's fine and nothing to be worried about but I don't think it's unfair to suggest expectations would be for him to outperform Youssef En-Nesyri, Simon Banza and Krzysztof Piatek.
All of whom (baring Banza) have played more games than him:
| RK | Name | Team | P | G |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Krzysztof Piatek | Istanbul Basaksehir | 22 | 18 |
| 2 | Simon Banza | Trabzonspor | 20 | 16 |
| 3 | Youssef En-Nesyri | Fenerbahce | 23 | 15 |
| 4 | Victor Osimhen | Galatasaray | 19 | 14 |
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/stats/_/league/tur.1
Would certainly be a novel idea for us
If your point is to prove the point that he’s not a money grabber perhaps think if it were not for Napoli being greedy he’d be playing in Saudi Arabia now earning 600k per week
Per 90
1 Youssef En-Nesyr 0.98
2 Krzysztof Piątek 0.93
3 Victor Osimhen 0.86
4 Simon Banza 0.84
I was trying to find this too
I mean I still think he's a good striker and I wouldn't say no to him joining us, better than what we have currrently
If his wages aren't too high I'd be very tempted. I think what Chelsea offered him was something like £120k per week guaranteed potentially doubling with bonuses. I wouldn't want to go beyond that.I was trying to find this too
I mean I still think he's a good striker and I wouldn't say no to him joining us, better than what we have currrently
Fair enough then, but how is he standing out against the other top strikers there?
The points are that:
1. When the choice is between a pay cut to play mediocre football, with mid table, conference league Chelsea, and a lot of money to be top dog in a mediocre league, money grabbing if there was such a thing, doesn't come into the conversation.
Chelsea at this point only offer more visibility than Al Alhi or whatever club it was. Being at Chelsea would also tie him down and prevent him from moving to a better Premier League club. But waiting a couple of years and losing the price tag would mean having a much wider range of suitors.
In other words, there was no upside to the Chelsea offer.
2. There is no such thing as a "money grabber" when it comes to professional football. They're all in it for the money.
Which leads to my thinking that unless he reduces his pay demands, he won’t be joining United
Fair enough. We'll have to see.
I don’t think we’re in a position to be picky, if and it’s a big if we can get him on a decent wage then we should be all over this. He’s a proven goal scorer which there aren’t many of and we’re in desperate need of.
Not his biggest fan but if we can get him then it’s a no brainer compared to Hojlund and Zirkzee.
Cunha Osimhen Amad could be an actually goal threatening front three (although I’d prefer Amad as wingback, think he does his best work driving in from wide areas)
Cunha Osimhen Amad could be an actually goal threatening front three (although I’d prefer Amad as wingback, think he does his best work driving in from wide areas)
Well put it this way there is a video on his Instagram about it, however does say Arsenal are also interested in activating it too. Apparently they have the advantage which is annoying. So needs a charm offensive from Vivell by the sounds of it.
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Because over the course of his entire 250 game career, he's got a better than 1 in 2 strike rate and you're looking at a really small sample size of 20 games (where's he's currently got a 0.75 strike rate still).
Those players are on slightly better streaks but their body of work over their careers don't match any where near - Piatek at 0.38 in a series of lower leagues with some really good streaky seasons, Banza 0.33 and En Nesyri (who would be a massive improvement on our strike options) at 0.37 per game.
So you're comparing 1 in 3 strikers to a guy who is better than 1 in 2 across the board.
It would be like looking at the current Premier League scoring and not wanting Watkins (0.46 strike rate) over Chris Wood (0.35) or Wissa (0.3) because they're outscoring him over the 26 games of this season
That's fair enough, but it's not really an accurate comparison.
Watkins you can point to his play which is better than wood for example, he's clearly overall a better player. I'm asking what does osimhen do to show the same?
How much have you watched the other three scorers in the Turkish league and Osimhen for that matter?
Familiarity makes comparison easier so yes, the Prem example is stretched in usefulness, but unless you've watched all four players then you're only stats comparing.
I've watched bits of Osimhen this season and quite a lot of him at Napoli. Other than Nesyri, I know nothing of the other two but I don't think the comparison is necessary for the above reason that you can look at Osimhen's body of work, his general play - excellent in the air, finishing, physical aspects and conclude he's a good option
That's fair, and I am similar but I don't think he offers a lot outside his goals, more than Haaland but not a lot.
You make it sound like facts when it’s merely speculation on your part. I would assume many footballers would love the experience of living in a foreign country and playing football at possibly a higher level. Getting a great salary is obviously a huge bonus, but I doubt it’s everything for everyone. As for glory, some revel in public attention whereas other shy away from it.
I think if Osimhen wants to come to United in the summer, he will settle with either 200k or 250k pw. I doubt it will be less than 200k pw and he will have a point because Zirkzee is on 105k pw, Yoro is on 115k pw and he will want something far more than that wages which I predict would be 200k or around that. INEOS also gave 200k pw to de Ligt.
If every player was purely after money they’d all be playing in Saudi, I remember reading at the time that he was looking for 500k a week off Chelsea, Chelsea have a decent squad and it was obvious they wouldn’t be battling it out in mid table for too long and I doubt what they offered him was “pretty poor wages” to any 26 year old player with ambition a choice between Chelsea and Galatasaray is a no brainer.
If you’re happy to have players come here who only want a pay day more fool to you, but getting players who actually want to play at the top level (Salah and Van Dijk being perfect examples of this, players at the end of their career who could happily go off and make a lot more than Liverpool are paying them now yet are still hanging around waiting for a new deal) show how wrong you are about this.
We should be doing everything to avoid getting these types of characters in, it’s what leads to players like Rashford jogging around the pitch not caring,
We’ve made 12 years of expensive mistakes like this and Osimhen will be another, a money grabber who couldn’t care less if things are going bad for us once his wages hit the bank every week,
Safe to say he is another who divides opinion
We’re not buying a player for 75m this summer. We’re simply not. If there is a market in which I can bet on it not happening, I would.