If he scores the goals who cares how good his all round game is?So a slightly younger Lukaku is what you’re telling us he is
I don’t think his all round game is good enough.
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Think Jamie Vardy, but bigger, stronger and aerially dominantSo a slightly younger Lukaku is what you’re telling us he is
I don’t think his all round game is good enough.
He should be a pinch hitter type of player we'd buy and only use when chasing games. Doesn't press or help build up play i believe.
Yeah Vardy fierceness, pace and leadership, Ronaldo leap, I'll compare his physicality to Diego Costa.
For people complaining about his technical level it's not Lukaku like. It's like Cavani, you know tidy enough without being at the highest level.
He'll instantly be our best player, and he'll command enough authority unlike Hojlund for teammates to play to him like they did with Ibrahimovic and Ronaldo.
Yes, best attacking player for sure and he'll make many realize what we've been lacking since Cavani left us.
He's that type of striker who is a poacher and channel runner but also very physical and aerially dominant. Gyokeres looks the same too and that's what Amorim utilized at Sporting so well.
Given our financial situation spending £60m on any player isn’t smart. I’d much rather we got J David on a ‘free’. Obviously there would be sign on fees etc but that’s still a lot cheaper.
We have too many positions to replace this summer. Ideally we need a couple of CM that have the stamina for the league plus less injury prone. Goalie is dodgy. Need wingback cover with permanent injuries to Shaw. Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen leaving. We want Casemiro, Rashford and Antony sold. Maguire has 1 year left. Mount and Martinez have as many injuries as Shaw. The list is obscene with how much money has been spent.
We have too many positions to replace this summer. Ideally we need a couple of CM that have the stamina for the league plus less injury prone. Goalie is dodgy. Need wingback cover with permanent injuries to Shaw. Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen leaving. We want Casemiro, Rashford and Antony sold. Maguire has 1 year left. Mount and Martinez have as many injuries as Shaw. The list is obscene with how much money has been spent.
It depends on what the coach wants from his striker. Amorim appears to keep it simple in this position (Hojlund I think mentioned this in an interview) , run behind the defence and get in the box to finish. Outside of that I'd imagine some work rate is required off the ball - all of which Osimhen looks very capable of. Plus he's decent in the air too. He looks like the perfect striker to be on the end of crosses, cutbacks and balls in behind.So a slightly younger Lukaku is what you’re telling us he is
I don’t think his all round game is good enough.
David won't work. He is another Lacazette; a forward not a central striker.
It's not about £60m or any other number exactly, it's about balancing the books. If we can sell Rashford for £40m, then it's only £20m net spend, which isn't bad. Or maybe we can get him in part exchange for Garnacho, who Napoli were interested in during the last transfer window.
Nothing against signing David on a free, but if you think he would solve our goal scoring problems, you are wrong. If anything he would suit the no.10 role more than CF in our system. Osimhen or Gyokeres or any younger CF like Delap, Sesko, Ekitike should be priority.
a channel runner ,that can be a threat , who can stretch the back four is exactly what we need up top in this system
we would need to get casemiro and his wages off the books as i believe Osimhen is on similar wages
Yeah David definitely shouldn't be the answer at number 9 just because he's a free agent
The club actively now talking about not be interested in either Victor Osimhen or Victor Gykores as the total cost would be £60m transfer fee plus 5 year contract of £65-75m, that’s the reality, one of these only happens if Rashford, Sancho and Casemiro go so the wages are reduced by £1m per week for those three players.
Two players like Liam Delap £45m and a 5 year contract of £25-30m then Johnathon David on a Free with wages of £35m on 5 year contract plus a £10m signing on fee means that they could be in for a 2 for 1 deal
Total cost on one of these viktors is
£125-135m total over 5 years, one is 26 and one is 27 both are 6’2, the club could get Liam Delap(22) height 6’2 and Johnathon David(25) height 5’10 who can play SS for a combined fee of £110-120m over the same 5 year period.
The question is which one of the four would you put your house on to get 25-30 goals next season or would you get 25-30 out of De Lap and David together ?
For reference this season including internationals;
Victor Gykores P44 Goals 44 Assists 13
Victor Osimhen P31 Goals 22 Assists 5
Johnathon David P39 Goals 22 Assists 10
Liam De Lap P31 Goals 10 Assists 2
Looking at these stats we should be going for Gykores who’s done it at international level this season with 9 goals and 4 assists in 8 games. David’s looks like a no btaiber as a free transfer and the club desperately need to add one of the Victors with a top class Goal keeper and Midfielder to improve the spine which is currently one of the weakest in the EPL!
Two players like Liam Delap £45m and a 5 year contract of £25-30m then Johnathon David on a Free with wages of £35m on 5 year contract plus a £10m signing on fee means that they could be in for a 2 for 1 deal
Total cost on one of these viktors is
£125-135m total over 5 years, one is 26 and one is 27 both are 6’2, the club could get Liam Delap(22) height 6’2 and Johnathon David(25) height 5’10 who can play SS for a combined fee of £110-120m over the same 5 year period.
The question is which one of the four would you put your house on to get 25-30 goals next season or would you get 25-30 out of De Lap and David together ?
For reference this season including internationals;
Victor Gykores P44 Goals 44 Assists 13
Victor Osimhen P31 Goals 22 Assists 5
Johnathon David P39 Goals 22 Assists 10
Liam De Lap P31 Goals 10 Assists 2
Looking at these stats we should be going for Gykores who’s done it at international level this season with 9 goals and 4 assists in 8 games. David’s looks like a no btaiber as a free transfer and the club desperately need to add one of the Victors with a top class Goal keeper and Midfielder to improve the spine which is currently one of the weakest in the EPL!
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You do wonder why a bigger club hasn't taken a chance on David yet, also concerned that Delap might be a Ferguson and peter out next season
Delap is no 45m player. Hes a 30m player. There’s nothing special about him. He’s a big hard working lad who does the basics competently
It would be like us choosing to sign Kevin Davies from Southampton in the 90's.
So if we can't afford Osimhen/Gyokeres as looks to be the case where should we look for a proven striker?
David on a free is probably our best shot.
I don't rate him at all
Everyone would want to join us if they think there getting 300k a week. Osihmen would be decent but on decent wages only.
I don't rate him as the sole number 9
We should be doing the Johnathon David free deal then taking our time to get an e experienced number 9, we should be all over Viktor Gykores and give Amorim no excuses next season?
The first two signings we should do is Angel Gomes and Johnathon David both on free transfers early in the summer, both are no brainers.
Our problem is our spine, it’s genuinely shocking, two years ago we said we had the makings of a great spine with ;
De Gea, Varane, Martinez, Prine Casemiro, Bruno and just needed a number 9?
We’ve spent £400m since and have a bottom 4/5 team spine, Both Wolves and West Ham have better attacking players than us, Palace and Everton better defensive players currently?
When Pickford was proposed as United number 1 for £30m instead of Onana, Red Cafe went mad, he’s miles better than all of our keepers just as Dean Henderson who we gave away is far better too!
AWB is perfect for a 3421 system and we gave him away because he’s apparently not attacking enough, well he’s got as many goals and assists playing less games than Mazroui and Dalot have combined for a so called weaker team!
When will we learn, recruit mostly PL proven players and only top Elite Players like Gykores, Ederson. Johnston Tah or Free transfers from top 5 league teams.
You described a 15m striker.
Adjusted for modern English prices
We can afford Osimhen. We just need to prioritize a top striker above all else, even if it means sacrificing other positions. We will probably spend more than 60m on signings. We will probably sell Rashford and so lose his 300k per week wages. We can afford Osimhen.
Lukaku is not great in the box though IMO. Someone who is great in the box should be like Cavani, Chicharito, and Osimhen. A fox in the box.So a slightly younger Lukaku is what you’re telling us he is
I don’t think his all round game is good enough.
Who is the affordable fox in the box now?
Jamie Vardy
Jamie Vardy
Well we are looking at free agents, wouldn't be so against Calvert-Lewin if he wasn’t walking injury
He’s also fox in the box but he’s not a good finisher these days. He missed chances a lot. Scored 3 goals in 6.1 xG. It shows that his positioning and movement are good to get the 6.1 xG but not his finishing.
Have people learnt nothing from the last 12 years. He’s only interested in money, it’s why he wanted to go to Saudi and didn’t end up signing for Chelsea, he’s the definition of a player we should be avoiding at all costs
Imagine passing up the chance to take a pay cut (less than what he was on at Napoli) to play in the conference league. Such lack of ambition.
He likes throwing his weight around and getting in center backs faces..... another thing we're missing.
Jesus no. He's utter shite - would rather Vardy than him, despite the age difference.
Utter dross that
That’s not worth 45m though. Someone who can score 20 goals is.
JP Mateta looks capable? I'd imagine he'd be more than 45m
I do like mateta. However Palace do get a lot of crosses in so he can thrive
Plus you'd probably want another striker for the first half of every season.