Victor Osimhen | out of options | goes to Gala on loan

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A team that plays to his strengths and hides his weaknesses,plus guarantee trophies and champions league.
What's there not to like ?
 
All this talk about Bayern I don't think they're really in the race. They get great players but rarely pay huge transfers.

I know reports are saying Osimenh will be available for 100M which seems a sum Bayern would be willing to pay. But I doubt that's the real number, I mean there are very few good strikers why would, specially, Napoli sell for only 100M?

There are at least 4-5 big teams interested in him. I think the number would be closer to 130M which then I don't see Bayern paying.

Let's take into account Napoli paid 75M for him 3 years ago and he still haves a contract until 2025 so they're not really forced to move him unless paid a big sum.

I only see him moving to the premier league because of this.
 
All this talk about Bayern I don't think they're really in the race. They get great players but rarely pay huge transfers.

I know reports are saying Osimenh will be available for 100M which seems a sum Bayern would be willing to pay. But I doubt that's the real number, I mean there are very few good strikers why would, specially, Napoli sell for only 100M?

There are at least 4-5 big teams interested in him. I think the number would be closer to 130M which then I don't see Bayern paying.

Let's take into account Napoli paid 75M for him 3 years ago and he still haves a contract until 2025 so they're not really forced to move him unless paid a big sum.

I only see him moving to the premier league because of this.
I would normally 100% agree with you. But Osimhen has ties to Germany. Does Napoli refuse to sell to Bayern for €100m if Osimhen says "only Bayern"?
 
I would normally 100% agree with you. But Osimhen has ties to Germany. Does Napoli refuse to sell to Bayern for €100m if Osimhen says "only Bayern"?

Even if he says only Bayern, they won't sell him for 100 million.
 
I would normally 100% agree with you. But Osimhen has ties to Germany. Does Napoli refuse to sell to Bayern for €100m if Osimhen says "only Bayern"?
I think so, I don't see why Napoli would sell at a cut price just to give Osimhen his dream move or something.
 
Tonight is a night where he has to show up. This is the sort of stage and situation that makes a player.
 
Been bang on average in these 2 matches against Milan. Makes me think he doesn't have that big match gene.
 
Been bang on average in these 2 matches against Milan. Makes me think he doesn't have that big match gene.

I didn't watch the first match but he's been feeding off scraps in this one. They can't get the ball to him.
 
Been bang on average in these 2 matches against Milan. Makes me think he doesn't have that big match gene.

Seems a pretty dumb thing to think based on two games. That's not how football works.

Edit: actually I just thought this post was really stupid, but it might have been an actual joke.
 
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Been bang on average in these 2 matches against Milan. Makes me think he doesn't have that big match gene.

Huge sample size.

For what its worth, I don't think he's fit really. He'd been missing for a couple of weeks now? But desperate times call for desperate measures. Not to mention, the team have been really poor and not created much if anything at all.

Come to think of it, he didn't even play in the first leg did he?
 
Been bang on average in these 2 matches against Milan. Makes me think he doesn't have that big match gene.
Well that’s a post based on nothing seeing as he didn’t even play the 1st leg nor the 4-0 defeat in the league
 
And you just said he'd have a better chance at Bayern than Napoli for CL? Not this year and not in the near future if he were to stay at Napoli. No club is guaranteed CL success, and that includes Bayern.
Well, Milan was too much for Napoli.
 
He's not fully fit and good finish per usual when he gets service....but opinion still stands that he's a traditional CF who needs consistent service to score goals and isn't going to create his own space or bring others into play as much. He's the final product guy and United have seemingly done that with Marcus. So there needs to be a better balance of a player who can score double figures in the league yet contribute going forward on the ball and still have a good work rate off the ball defensively and offensively.

A fit Martial would be better than Osimhen for United, but a fit Martial isn't possible anymore. Sad but true and signing a reliable CF who can give both goals and overall team functionality outside of the counting stat of goals is what I think EtH is working towards.
 
Personally, I think I'm leaning toward getting another striker. He's a great striker, but is he really that good? There are no guarantees that he would be a success in Premier League either, so it's a very expensive risk to say the least. For €150m, we should be looking at getting prime Suarez, Aguero, Benzema, Lewandowski etc, not Osimhen who is entirely reliant on service to score goals. Like @edcunited1878 said above, a fit Martial would be a greater fit for the team, despite scoring less goals.
Would Ferguson, for instance, really be doing a lot worse than Osimhen for us if we got him instead?
 
He's not fully fit and good finish per usual when he gets service....but opinion still stands that he's a traditional CF who needs consistent service to score goals and isn't going to create his own space or bring others into play as much. He's the final product guy and United have seemingly done that with Marcus. So there needs to be a better balance of a player who can score double figures in the league yet contribute going forward on the ball and still have a good work rate off the ball defensively and offensively.

A fit Martial would be better than Osimhen for United, but a fit Martial isn't possible anymore. Sad but true and signing a reliable CF who can give both goals and overall team functionality outside of the counting stat of goals is what I think EtH is working towards.
No such player exist bro
 
He's not fully fit and good finish per usual when he gets service....but opinion still stands that he's a traditional CF who needs consistent service to score goals and isn't going to create his own space or bring others into play as much. He's the final product guy and United have seemingly done that with Marcus. So there needs to be a better balance of a player who can score double figures in the league yet contribute going forward on the ball and still have a good work rate off the ball defensively and offensively.

A fit Martial would be better than Osimhen for United, but a fit Martial isn't possible anymore. Sad but true and signing a reliable CF who can give both goals and overall team functionality outside of the counting stat of goals is what I think EtH is working towards.
Disagree massively.

His hold up and bringing players in is decent enough and having someone like Bruno, Eriksen and Antony (similar to what kharva was doing today, cutting in and whipping a cross in) playing crosses into.the box like today would give us so many more goals than we currently have. We have no one who occupies or hits the box, Rashford still proves that's not his forte and Martial is no different.
 
Disagree massively.

His hold up and bringing players in is decent enough and having someone like Bruno, Eriksen and Antony (similar to what kharva was doing today, cutting in and whipping a cross in) playing crosses into.the box like today would give us so many more goals than we currently have. We have no one who occupies or hits the box, Rashford still proves that's not his forte and Martial is no different.

Do we really wanna play like that, though? :lol: Endless crossing reminds me of... I don't even wanna say it.
 
Do we really wanna play like that, though? :lol: Endless crossing reminds me of... I don't even wanna say it.
It's pretty much the only option if a team decides to double up on your winger and camp in their box! He scores all types of goals, but for me it's all about finding profiles we're missing from our current side, that would be effective.

If you look how Calabria and who ever played on the wing doubled up on Kharva, if that happens with Rashford, what use is Martial in those scenarios?
 
Do we really wanna play like that, though? :lol: Endless crossing reminds me of... I don't even wanna say it.
You need to mix thing up still.

This game the issue with Napoli is that they tried to play cute, pass through Milan. Barely cross the ball all game, and Osinhem still be able to score. Even Pep Barcelona could be frustrated with a compact low block.

ETH Ajax is not avert to crossing, playing direct. Haller is more a poacher than a play making forward. There is nothing wrong with crossing. SAF teams are well known for wing play. The issue is the extreme version where Moyes is clueless about variation of attack, and just cross the ball for the sake of it.
 
It's pretty much the only option if a team decides to double up on your winger and camp in their box! He scores all types of goals, but for me it's all about finding profiles we're missing from our current side, that would be effective.

If you look how Calabria and who ever played on the wing doubled up on Kharva, if that happens with Rashford, what use is Martial in those scenarios?

Martial excels in link-up play and will do it with Eriksen, Antony and Bruno if Rashford is doubled up on. That's the beauty with Martial. His effective one-twos, close control, strength and hold-up play can easily carve a defense open in a split second. Osimhen, on the other hand, does not have his close control or quick feet and will instead camp in their box waiting for a cross. We would absolutely have more goals with him in the team this season, but is it worth €150m than another striker who could be just as efficient, but also better in other areas?
 
Do we really wanna play like that, though? :lol: Endless crossing reminds me of... I don't even wanna say it.

Ten Hag's Ajax?

Of all the teams in the English, Spanish, Italian, German, French and Dutch leagues last season, only one averaged more crosses per 90 than Ajax. The season before that, only two.

It's not a coincidence that he has more often than not opted for big, physical CFs. The man likes having that target.
 
Ten Hag's Ajax?

Of all the teams in the English, Spanish, Italian, German, French and Dutch leagues last season, only one averaged more crosses per 90 than Ajax. The season before that, only two.

It's not a coincidence that he has more often than not opted for big, physical CFs. The man likes having that target.

Fair enough. Odd how he went for Weghorst who is an incredibly bad header of the ball if he wanted to play like that here :lol: I guess we'll see in the summer who he wants
 
Martial excels in link-up play and will do it with Eriksen, Antony and Bruno if Rashford is doubled up on. That's the beauty with Martial. His effective one-twos, close control, strength and hold-up play can easily carve a defense open in a split second. Osimhen, on the other hand, does not have his close control or quick feet and will instead camp in their box waiting for a cross. We would absolutely have more goals with him in the team this season, but is it worth €150m than another striker who could be just as efficient, but also better in other areas?
Goal poaching is still one of the most sought after ability in the game. Osinhem hold up play is different and better in other situation. His pressing is very good too.

Nobody carve that Milan defense today up using Napoli tactic. Trying to dribbling 2-3 players, passing around only facing another set of blocker won't do. They had one of the top dribbler in Europe and still failed miserably this game. It's time to go direct which got them the consolation goal. They left it too late. In that scenario, Osinhem is one of the few best CF you can find at the moment. Put in enough cross, and he would be threatening in the box and opened the game up.
 
Goal poaching is still one of the most sought after ability in the game. Osinhem hold up play is different and better in other situation. His pressing is very good too.

Nobody carve that Milan defense today up using Napoli tactic. Trying to dribbling 2-3 players, passing around only facing another set of blocker won't do. They had one of the top dribbler in Europe and failed miserably this game. It's time to go direct which got them the consolation goal. They left it too late. In that scenario, Osinhem is one of the few best CF you can find at the moment.

Assuming we had all our players fit - Do you think we would beat Milan today?

Kvaratskhelia is a massive talent, indeed, but he isn't even top 10 dribblers in Serie A. Additionally, he didn't really have a particularly good game, so Rashford might have been way more effective.

The same question could also be asked the other way around; because Osimhen was camping in the box, forcing Milan to put up a low-block, could Martial have helped opening up the defense? Osimhen thrives with space, so essentially by not giving him any, the odds of him scoring are very slim, although he did in the end.
 
Fair enough. Odd how he went for Weghorst who is an incredibly bad header of the ball if he wanted to play like that here :lol: I guess we'll see in the summer who he wants

A 6ft 6 bad header of the ball is still better than nothing I suppose, though opting to use him as a #10 in some games is perhaps telling in terms of what he has actually offered.

Still, beats having to resort to using Harry Maguire as an auxillary striker to get that aerial presence up front, as we did against Sociedad when desparately chasing a goal.

Our attack generally lacks aerial threat and box threat, two of several areas we'll hopefully address this summer with whoever we sign.
 
Martial excels in link-up play and will do it with Eriksen, Antony and Bruno if Rashford is doubled up on. That's the beauty with Martial. His effective one-twos, close control, strength and hold-up play can easily carve a defense open in a split second. Osimhen, on the other hand, does not have his close control or quick feet and will instead camp in their box waiting for a cross. We would absolutely have more goals with him in the team this season, but is it worth €150m than another striker who could be just as efficient, but also better in other areas?
Oh I don't think he's worth 150m by any stretch of the imagination, but I think you're overstating what Martial does vs what Osimhen does. Their records speak for themselves and Martial has never shown he can be just as efficient in Osimhens strengths.

Take 1 v 1 Martial had this weekend - ok we scored the rebound, but you'd probably bet your house Osimhen is scoring that. Martial also had a header that he fluffed, that judging by Osimhens goal today, he'd have buried too. You may value Martials link up play more and think it will eek out performances elsewhere, but I think we create more than enough without him and need direct goal involvements more.
 
Assuming we had all our players fit - Do you think we would beat Milan today?

Kvaratskhelia is a massive talent, indeed, but he isn't even top 10 dribblers in Serie A. Additionally, he didn't really have a particularly good game, so Rashford might have been way more effective.

The same question could also be asked the other way around; because Osimhen was camping in the box, forcing Milan to put up a low-block, could Martial have helped opening up the defense? Osimhen thrives with space, so essentially by not giving him any, the odds of him scoring are very slim, although he did in the end.
Kvaradona not one of the 10 best dribblers in Serie A?? :lol::lol::lol:
 
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