Go away with your whataboutery. I'll be disgusted if we go with the Qataris although it seems like the most likely outcome unless there's political interference. Think it would be another in a long line of United feck-ups. Basically providing PR to the corrupt and human rights abusing Qatari state where any future success would automatically be attributed to our newfound wealth (see City, Newcastle etc) than to the club or a brilliant manager. Although, given that we have a model as to how the Qataris would manage us, the chances are just as high that we remain a farce of a club that find every more spectacular ways to fail in Europe while also having the highest paid players in the world. Doesn't sound that attractive to me compared to competent owners who reinvest intelligently.
Victor Osimhen | out of options | goes to Gala on loan
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Osimhen is easily the #1 choice of CF's are on our list HOWEVER his price tag is more than double what it would cost for Hojlund and honestly Ferguson isn't ready to lead the line for United and should stay at brighton to continue his development.
It all really comes down to priorities and how much our budget will be in the summer. Yes, we need a CF...Yes, we need another starting XI type of CM...Yes, we need an upgrade at RB and potentially we need to bring in another CB. can't do the last three if we blow our budget on Osimhen.
It's not whataboutery to be precise. I didn't try to deflect the issue.
And to be precise again could you live with the Qatarie royals ownership? Would you continue to support/watch United if so?
Edit: thinking about this I've just realised how my opinion has changed regarding the Qatarie ownership. I was against it, I was not fine with it, but I couldn't stop supporting Unitef so I had to live with it. Now I'm sadly pretty fine with that. You're right I shouldn't be fine with MG returning. I should have said I'm not fine/happy but I could live with that.
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Honestly Greenwood isn't really suffering real consequences either way. Even if he didn't play for us, he's a free man with now a wife and kid and would be courted by plenty of clubs around the world to restart his playing career. And if he was still as good as he was before the incident, he'd be immediately snapped up by a top club again. Sort of the way the world works.
It's sad, but like any profession (especially sports) top talent will always be coveted regardless of off of the field issues if there isn't any issues legally.
Have you asked that from any female person ever?
What?
Again why was he not put in prison then by professional lawyers and judges if this was what happened and against law?
Just answer that question.
You act like you know what happened more than the lawyers and judges that ended up letting him go when dealing with this case.
Yes because you act like you know both the specific case and general law more than the lawyers and judges that dealt with the whole bloody case in the first place.
Its like pretending to know medicine more than your doctor just because someone told you some symptoms of someone else you never knew.
The judges and lawyers dealt with it. End of. Now its United's turn to decide on the result of the judges and lawyers.
Anyway not going to talk about this in Osimhens thread.
Again why was he not put in prison then by professional lawyers and judges if this was what happened and against law?
Just answer that question.
You act like you know what happened more than the lawyers and judges that ended up letting him go when dealing with this case.
Yes because you act like you know both the specific case and general law more than the lawyers and judges that dealt with the whole bloody case in the first place.
Its like pretending to know medicine more than your doctor just because someone told you some symptoms of someone else you never knew.
The judges and lawyers dealt with it. End of. Now its United's turn to decide on the result of the judges and lawyers.
Anyway not going to talk about this in Osimhens thread.
This is an absolutely horrible comparison.
Just because you heard a video tape doesnt mean you know the whole case.
Again, why is he not in prison by lawyers and judges if what he did was against law?
Why is he not in prison? We wouldn't even talk about his potential to represent United again if he was in prison right now but he isnt in prison.
Its like someone who killed a person then being let free by judges and lawyers. If he is guilty - he would be in prison.
You're acting like you've just had some slam dunk but it has nothing to do with professional lawyers/judges making a call one way or the other. It never got that far because the charges were dropped because the key witness refused to cooperate further. You can read between the lines as to why that may be. It wasn't just assault and attempted rape he was charged with - there was coercive behaviour too. It should also be noted that the police were criticised for allowing him to persistently breach his bail conditions by contacting and being in the company of the victim for many months without enforcement. Women's aid made the following statement following the dropping of charges:Again why was he not put in prison then by professional lawyers and judges if this was what happened and against law?
Just answer that question.
You act like you know what happened more than the lawyers and judges that ended up letting him go when dealing with this case.
Yes because you act like you know both the specific case and general law more than the lawyers and judges that dealt with the whole bloody case in the first place.
Its like pretending to know medicine more than your doctor just because someone told you some symptoms of someone else.
The judges and lawyers dealt with it. End of. Now its United's turn to decide on the result of the judges and lawyers.
Anyway not going to talk about this in Osimhens thread.
"Only one in five women report domestic abuse to police, highlighting the severe lack of trust they have that they will be taken seriously. We’ll continue to push for evidence-led prosecutions which reduce the need to rely on the victim’s testimony. This is crucial because of the high number of domestic abuse cases that are dropped [as] the victim no longer feels able to support a prosecution, often due to the severe barriers and safety implications of taking an abuser to court.
I wish I had your blind optimism about the criminal justice system.
The charges were dropped because the key witness withdrew.
It was key witness withdrawal as well as new evidence coming to light wasn't it? We don't know what the new evidence is.
A CPS spokesperson said: “We have a duty to keep cases under continuous review. In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction."
Stop discussing Greenwood’s case in Osimhen’s thread. The next one is going to get a warning point.
Sorry, didn’t see this before posting!
Where can we discuss it??
There was mass outcry from a lot of people, it’s been very loudly expressed as well unless you’ve been living under a rock. I don’t want Qatari owners, nor do I want someone like Greenwood playing for us again. Nor did I want Ronaldo back the second time around, for several reasons.
That said I feel like the fans can only impact the greenwood situation, it doesn’t matter what we think about the takeover - it’ll happen whether we like it or not.
It’s an unfortunate fact that the likelihood to be forgiven for heinous crimes is proportionate to your skill with a football, we’ve seen it a million times. Doesn’t mean we have to stand for it this time though, and I feel like rape is a pretty good place to draw the line. I would probably forgive Mason Greenwood too if all he’d done was fire a BB gun.
Put "Greenwood" in not prohibited words, to gave same error as L.ma.o or Lo.l atm does if you try to post it. Some weird people keep bringing up the name.
Pathetic
I'm scared to ask what you mean by the latter part of this paragraph but call me Guy Fieri with lighter fluid over a grill...
Again why was he not put in prison then by professional lawyers and judges if this was what happened and against law?
Just answer that question.
You act like you know what happened more than the lawyers and judges that ended up letting him go when dealing with this case.
Yes because you act like you know both the specific case and general law more than the lawyers and judges that dealt with the whole bloody case in the first place.
Its like pretending to know medicine more than your doctor just because someone told you some symptoms of someone else you never knew.
The judges and lawyers dealt with it. End of. Now its United's turn to decide on the result of the judges and lawyers.
Anyway not going to talk about this in Osimhens thread.
The judges and lawyers didn’t let him go.
You should try reading what actually happened before posting utter drivel.
Again, I feel like there’s a difference between someone being bipolar and being a rapist. But I don’t want to derail the thread any further, so I’ll leave it there.
This Osimhen kid looks decent.
Not prohibited would mean that his name appears as normal. Also, "weird people" keep bringing up the name is an odd assertion - he's a Man Utd player and one of the brightest talents we've ever produced. People are obviously going to talk about it, so god knows why you think censoring his name is a rational thing to do as if he's Voldemort or something.
Hasnt scored in last 2 nigeria games.
So, do you rate him?
Doesn't matter he's doing it for club
Have you seen Nigeria's team and midfield?
He was the best player on the pitch against Guinea-Bissau, was unlucky not to be on the scoresheet
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As a Nigerian I advice you to ignore our national team games. This current team is the definition of inconsistent. The midfield lacks any kind of creativity and our fullbacks couldn't cross well to save their own lives.
Bump don't want him
I wonder if Lukaku + cash for Osimhen is possible. I think that will put Chelsea I'm a strong position
Really? Osimhen is a dynamic, exciting forward whereas Lukaku is cumbersome and lethargic. It'd be a huge stylistic switch up. Can't see Napoli remotely entertaining that.
Would never happen. Napoli aren't going to pay out £210k/week for washed Lukaku. Also, it would genuinely take €100mn plus Lukaku to get Osimhen which would clearly be a terrible deal for Chelsea.
And to think some people have suggested selling Mctominay to Newcastle for £30m and paying £130m for this guy???
Yeah this is where his case differs from Partey and also the fact his happened abroad
Yeah Osimhen and backup is needed
McTominay is a way better striker than Osimhen. Fahcts.
So how many goals has McTominay scored for Nigeria then??? Check mate asshole!
Someone's a bit touchy today. Are you Victor's little fan boy? Maybe you didn't appreciate the British humour, i.e. sarcasm, but that doesn't excuse rudeness.
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