He's a hardworking warrior who comes across as a humble guy, unlike Lukaku who was a lazy, whiny bastard who thought he was better than everyone else. Osimhen is also a much more complete footballer and everything about him screams professional, while Lukaku is literally the embodiment of unprofessional.
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He's a hardworking warrior who comes across as a humble guy, unlike Lukaku who was a lazy, whiny bastard who thought he was better than everyone else. Osimhen is also a much more complete footballer and everything about him screams professional, while Lukaku is literally the embodiment of unprofessional.
Look at the teams he played on!!
Meh, they're not top PL strikers.
Didn't compare. Said he was closer to them than Shearer.
Doesn't get near my top ten. I'll take Osimhen though.
From a pure scoring and overall CF/striker, Costa definitely isn't and I'd argue Drogba was. Costa was an effective player and unplayable at times, but that was rare. His shithousery and finishing could be so good.
Drogba could lead any line and I'd love him in the current United team.
Lukaku was totally engaged, like Conte was, and he had a great foil up front in Lautaro Martinez. Once Lukaku went to his lazy and I'm better than I really am mentality, both he and Lautaro began their down falls.
Osimhen can lead a line going forward and defending/pressing from the front on his own 5x better than Lukaku.
Glad I'm not alone. Yeah, I'd take Osimhen too. I assume Chelsea will give it a good go though because they get FOMO.
FOund it laughable how when he went tback to Chelsea how many pundits and a few of them top top strikers were lauding his improvements, he was no better than when he left.
Lukaku at the top of his game, despite the dreadful first touch, is a monster. He had peak periods at all of his clubs in the premiership, even here.....but anything below the top of his game and he is just a decent striker, below it and he is a poor striker. The number of crucial moments in his career for club and country he has failed is huge to me. The fees he has gone for and how highly rated he still seems to be is laughable.
Was always going to flop here, never a United player.....and the two are incomparable, Omishen is far more mobile and technically gifted. Personally think he and Vlahovic are the most viable options, even if both are mabe a bit over rated due to there seeming to currently be a dearth of top strikers that are not at the wrong end of there careers bar the very ream of the crop.
Not sure I see Omishen as a Lewndowski, Benzema or Haaland leverl sriker for example....but I would be confident he would be a success here. I never thought Lukaku would be anything other than what he was.....for a ridiculous fee....the fee is the only thing they have in common. The Napoli side have a few very godo strikers, the only one who to me looks a bona fide possible worls star though is Kvaratskhelia his ability and movement reminds me so much of a left sided Figo....though he isnt as good, which is barely a criticism
Fair enough. I feel differently to you though but I'm not going to get hung up on it one way or the other.
Having said that, I wonder what everyone else feels about it. Given that there's no criminal case to answer, would it now be appropriate to start a thread or poll about it?
I'm also very mindful that this thread is not the place to discuss his return or otherwise.
Some absolutely wild and terrible takes about Drogba in this thread. Drogba was a monster.
That's not saying much. So can the average sumo wrestler.
Brilliant, espacially in the big games. Big game player. Saying that, he isn’t top 10. Thats not a slight though, there have been some excellent strikers in the PL
Yeah that could be your trump card over Ighalo
Peak Shearer was much better, for me. But he was never the same after his knee injury around 97ish, when he lost that extra bit of pace..
Please list the ten you think are better than him.
Any top ten list of strikers in the EPL with no drogba is pants.
Henry, Shearer, Rooney, Suarez, Cantona, Kane, Cole, Van Persie, Van Nistelrooy and Haaland. All better than Drogba and I'd argue that there are probably one or two more also.
Edit: Completely forgot about Aguero.
Edit: Completely forgot about Aguero.
Haaland hasn't even played a whole season in England ffs.
Drogba was the ultimate big game player. 9 goals in 9 finals. Won Chelsea the CL. I'd have peak Drogba over Kane anyday of the week.
Haaland is clearly better than Drogba, but it's early days so fair enough. Replace him with Aguero then.
No denying Drogba's record in the big games. Kane has been a much better player than him though in my view.
RVP doesn't have the durability of Drogba. Neither did he have the amount of big match impact Drogba has at all levels
Shearer
Aguero
Henry
Ruud
Kane
Suarez
Rooney
Owen
Wright
Cole
I left out Salah as not sure you can class him as a striker.
Drogba was a great striker, but he wasn’t prolific.
What he was though, was the ultimate big game player. If its a cup final hes in my team.
Anyway its all subjective some will have him in some won’t. For me hes in the next batch with Van Persie Fowler, etc
Not really sure how someone who's never had a shot on target in a major final can be considered better than one of the best big game players around, regardless of how much the former stat pads at home to Norwich.
We have missed so many players that were obviously good players and would improve us. Hopefully not this time. The reason why Napoli is in this position is because of him and Kvarat. Sign him and reap the rewards, if we have to break the bank so be it. No overthinking, dont miss the obvious.
Depends what you value I suppose. In terms of big games and finals, then Drogba is right up there with anyone. The other 80-90% of the time, I'm taking Kane and many others over him without any hesitation.
Even if we ignore cup finals there was a season he hit Messi/Ronaldo level figures in a double winning season (37 in 44 despite not being the first choice penalty taker and being away at the AFCON for a month, he would have almost certainly hit 50 plus without those obstacles) and leading the line during 95 and 91 point title seasons.
That's three whole full season's above anything Kane has ever done.
Drogba had a couple of very good goalscoring seasons. Kane does it every season. No debate regarding trophies won obviously, but I don't think Kane or City would have fallen apart if he had joined them.
Thought you were meaning Haaland first read, but maybe you meant Kane.
Has Kane not had a shot in his set of finals then?
But think how much higher an opportunity Kane would have had if he was actually the favourite in any of the club level finals he's played in. In that peak Chelsea side he'd have had way more of a chance.
He would, but then isn't that his own fault for signing a big new contract with Spurs when any club in the world would have had him?
Most top level players seem to go with the easy renewal and higher money immediately don't they.
They seem to assume someone will come in for them at the right level. Kane & Zaha the 2 biggest examples of the flaw in this plan now fees are so high.
Lower league players seem a bit more savvy, when they would take lower fees to buy anyway.
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My only reservation with him is how he’ll be in build up. If we can get a side that can sustain attacks around the box without needing Osimhen involved too much then he’d be a terrific option.
He’s definitely an upgrade on what we currently have so it’s not at all a question of quality as his pressing is good, his general work ethic is good in that he makes lots of unselfish runs and he’s an intelligent positional striker too.
He’s just nowhere near as good in build up as a Kane so without trying to be too simple for me it comes down to what Ten Hag wants as a striker profile that elevates this team the most. And I think a Kane does that more.
He’s definitely an upgrade on what we currently have so it’s not at all a question of quality as his pressing is good, his general work ethic is good in that he makes lots of unselfish runs and he’s an intelligent positional striker too.
He’s just nowhere near as good in build up as a Kane so without trying to be too simple for me it comes down to what Ten Hag wants as a striker profile that elevates this team the most. And I think a Kane does that more.
I don't know why we weren't after him before he joined napoli, just like Aubameyang you could see the talent was there whilst playing in France and it would have been less of a punt to buy osimhen when he was in France for modest fee compared to buying now from napoli for a astronomical fee
The fee that Napoli paid for him wasn't exactly modest.
Well Ole was still the manager and he seemed happy with the forward options... before going for Ronaldo later on which ended his managerial career at United. I hope the club is going to be more proactive now in helping the manager identifying talents, especially with new owners coming in.
In todays market the fee was modest considering napoli will want way above 100 million and nunez cost liverpool 100 million
Didn't they pay 70m + in 2020? 100m in 2023 sounds right.
Yes he cost 70m + 10m in bonuses to Lille as a 21 year old.
He wasn't cheap at all when joined them but they'd attest that he's been worth every penny since
Napoli invested in him 70 mil and he is now their main man. They will want 130 mil at least.
I wonder, will we pay want to pay that?
I wonder, will we pay want to pay that?
i have a lot of doubts over whether a physical run in behind not great in the buildup CF is really a good fit for us. Do people think he has the ability to show quality on the ball or that's just not in his game at all?
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