DJ_21
Evens winner of 'Odds or Evens 2022/2023'
I hope we throw everything at him in the summer. He’s quality and will fit in with our forward players that are already here.
I hope we throw everything at him in the summer. He’s quality and will fit in with our forward players that are already here.
Also, Retegui? What do you see in him that would be a good investment? He's a year younger than Osimhen, has had 1 good season playing on loan rather than for his parent club who surely would be starting a 23 year old if he was that good. Goncalo Ramos will cost around the same as Osimhen. Evan Ferguson we don't know how good he can be, but Brighton will sell for a very high price. There isn't a plethora of strikers out there to choose from, maybe Mauni would be a good option for a cheaper price.
Also regarding Retegui, he has an Italian passport and is signed with Totti's agency. We can have a good guess to what country he will end up in.
Known as Kvaradona as it's easier to say.
Kvaradona #7 looks great to me.
No I'm just not a moron. Quite clearly ETH and the club would think that's a good investment (which it is) if we get him at that price. Hes seemingly one of Ten Hags number one targets for a reason. We're talking about one of the best strikers in the world already proven in the league, so yes, I do think signing Harry Kane gets us challenging for the title and a strong possiblity of winning it. The talk of value is bollocks.
Weghorst can do two things with United. He can succeed or he can fail. If he succeed then I can see Burnley asking silly money for him. If not then we wouldn't want to keep him right? Thuram on the other hand is younger, more versatile and he's a free agent. If he doesn't succeed as a forward its easier to move him around in other areas of the team or sell him off.
I have nothing against Tielemans joining United as long as his salary demands won't be over the roof. What I am against is paying 120m-140m on Osimhen. No disrespect towards the player who is quite talented indeed. However he's not worth that money which in turn would be bad business for United, unfair on the player and a risk for ETH's career.
Yeah but I think in an ideal world Ten Hag wants his forward to be low usage and not involved in build up which would suit Osimhen. It's how he's played the likes of Haller in the past but Osimhen is far superior to Haller. We can see it in the way Haaland operates where frequently the only time he's touching the ball is when he's running on to it to take a shot or actually just taking a shot. I think that Ten Hag wants his striker always pulling the centrebacks high to make more space on the pitch in the same way he wants his wide men very wide.How accurate is the talk of Osimhen being distinctly average in the build-up? Slightly concerning for the money we're talking about, especially as we're moving towards being a team that dominates possession high in the opposition final third.
Like who? Why does it need to be “less obvious”, anyway? The reason they’re so obvious is because they’re the best strikers we can target.Both him & Kane are too obvious, would cost an arm & leg anyway. We need a top quality striker, but maybe look someone less obvious than them?
Martial's a great footballer but a terrible striker. His movement and off the ball work is just really bad. Happy to make passes from midfield and watch the play unfold from where he passes it without making follow up runs into the box; he doesn't make good runs in the box and he always stops the ball when receiving rather than using its pace to his advantage. He could have been a great striker if he had better coaching earlier in his career because he has so many components of a good player.I don't know if he'd be ten Hag's number 1 choice.
Despite being injured a lot, we've seen how much ten Hag talks up Martial, and has clearly said we play better with him in the team.
To me, that has a lot to do with a Martial's back to goal play - similar to Weghorst.
If we can get a player who has that plus goals (no one better than Kane) then I think that's who ten Hag would prefer.
Let's say we have, Kane, Martial and Rashford as our forward options, then we have two players in Kane and Martial who has fantastic link play and someone in Rashford, who, like Osimhen, is more of a running in behind striker.
Strangest reason I've heard for not wanting eitherLike who? Why does it need to be “less obvious”, anyway? The reason they’re so obvious is because they’re the best strikers we can target.
Striker is a position we shouldn’t have that mentality with. These two are the best options. The back up? Sure.Both him & Kane are too obvious, would cost an arm & leg anyway. We need a top quality striker, but maybe look someone less obvious than them?
He's scored all types of goals this season tbf. Headers, volleys, poachers goals in the box, perfectly hit strikes etc. He's a natural finisher.Not seen a lot of him, but I don’t get the he’s scoring easy goals in Italy thing. He’s bullying defenders with speed, power, excellent finishing and movement, and seem to do a lot to tie the attack together. If Ten Hag wants him I hope he gets him. Jesus, him, Rashford and Garnacho in full throttle, I’d hate to defend against those.
He's scored in the CL, he's scored against Chelsea and Liverpool - it's fair to say he's not struggled against any.Not seen a lot of him, but I don’t get the he’s scoring easy goals in Italy thing. He’s bullying defenders with speed, power, excellent finishing and movement, and seem to do a lot to tie the attack together. If Ten Hag wants him I hope he gets him. Jesus, him, Rashford and Garnacho in full throttle, I’d hate to defend against those.
He's scored in the CL, he's scored against Chelsea and Liverpool - it's fair to say he's not struggled against any
From what I've watched, he reminds me of a bit more athletic version of Nunez that can finish. Will still have his drawbacks, but quite frankly there are no perfect options in the striker market currently.Thanks for the replies, I like the look of him. Seems he’s not a afraid to run his socks off and get stuck in as well.
He's not scored against Liverpool.
His 1 goal in the CL this season was at home to Ajax in the last minute when Napoli were 3-2 up.
He did score away against Chelsea and Valencia for Lille in the CL three seasons ago tbf.
Good point. Where's the fun in that? Maybe Ben Davies. Nobody will see that one coming.Both him & Kane are too obvious, would cost an arm & leg anyway. We need a top quality striker, but maybe look someone less obvious than them?
Admittedly I’ve only watched about an hour of footage from Oshimen, but Nunez?From what I've watched, he reminds me of a bit more athletic version of Nunez that can finish. Will still have his drawbacks, but quite frankly there are no perfect options in the striker market currently.
I believe Cavani is ETH ideal type of striker. One of the main reason why I think Osimhen could be the guy is because lot of people like fans, players, and journalist compare Osimhen to Cavani in the way how they play, movement, weakness, and strength.I suppose Cavani would probably be a good comparison from our POV given we saw a bit of him here (albeit well past his peak). Like Osimhen he also made his name with Napoli, was a somewhat similar style of striker (heavy on physicality, movement, workrate and the ability to get chances, light on technical polish) and left for a big money move outside of Serie A (£55m in 2013 when he was a couple of years older than Osimhen currently).
In theory if a young Cavani was on the market now, how keen would you be to sign him?
Not seen a lot of him, but I don’t get the he’s scoring easy goals in Italy thing. He’s bullying defenders with speed, power, excellent finishing and movement, and seem to do a lot to tie the attack together. If Ten Hag wants him I hope he gets him. Jesus, him, Rashford and Garnacho in full throttle, I’d hate to defend against those.
Admittedly I’ve only watched about an hour of footage from Oshimen, but Nunez?
He might be a good fit, but he is too expensive. We could pay it but shouldn‘t.
We need to be smarter. City got their yeti for 70 million or so. Why would we pay double for a lesser player?!? feck that.
Get Bellingham instead.
You are missing the point. We shouldn‘t overpay. Bellingham is worth 110 million, Osimhen isn‘t.Haaland had a release clause.
Signing Bellingham will not win us the league.
Because of a release clause. City also paid 40m to his dad and another 40m or so to his agent, and then is paying him 750k per week after top ups.He might be a good fit, but he is too expensive. We could pay it but shouldn‘t.
We need to be smarter. City got their yeti for 70 million or so. Why would we pay double for a lesser player?!? feck that.
Get Bellingham instead.
Well, it was reported Haaland cost 85.6m (his release clause + agent fees + player/father fees). His salary is 19.5m per year and if we consider it as City pay his salary for five years then it has potential cost of 183.1m in total. Haaland transfer fees/release clause might be look cheap but his wages, agent fees, and player/father fees are crazily high.He might be a good fit, but he is too expensive. We could pay it but shouldn‘t.
We need to be smarter. City got their yeti for 70 million or so. Why would we pay double for a lesser player?!? feck that.
Get Bellingham instead.
This joke is getting old, there are several real human beings named Jesus, withouth being half god or some such imaginary beeing(I paraphrase).We’re buying Jesus too? The guy from Arsenal or Bethlehem?
you probably know a hell of a lot more than me about these players, but I’ve watched us play. Average technique? We’ve seen average and below average for us for the last 10+ years, just because you don’t look silky on the ball it doesn’t mean your technique is average. I’ve heard the same said about Haaland and Thomas Müller in his heyday, they’re not pleasing on the eye, but very effective.Darwin yeah. The good parts though. Endless energy, extremely fast and strong, runs the channels, isn't going to blow you away with technical ability or creativity but gets into great positions and like I said he finishes better than Darwin does imo technique wise (especially heading, this guy is lethal in the air; like one of the best in the world with his head).
I disliked Nunez even before Liverpool mainly because he didn't show a real abundance of technique even in front of goal, and he still doesn't at Liverpool. Most of his "misses" are him just smashing at the ball and hoping it goes in. I think Osimhen has more coordination/ability in front of goal to offset his very average play on ball.