This guy is just a bad player for us, always underwhelming when we're playing well and when we're under pressure he usually seems to fold too easily.
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Showing what he is not made of the last games. Absolute fraud.
He's a scapegoat for a very obsessed subset of posters on here.
Have never understood why Mourinho signed him when he has a good eye at identifying defenders. To be fair to Lindelof, he was really good in patches last season but he’s now back to his abysmal best
It's always funny how his mind works sometimes. Too often, he is really passive and scared of getting touch tight or physical like the last few games. Then today at left back, he over commits to an aerial at the byline (i.e not a dangerous situation) and nearly breaks his neck; in the second half, goes running head first into the Brentford keeper for a header he's never going to win 
He overcompensates at the least needed times and vice versa, doesn't do enough at the pivotal moments like the shite clearance, which led to the Brentford goal.
All in all, it's 'better' than his last few appearances especially at left back but the bar is so low for him and his contribution so ineffective.
It's also amazing some people are still trying to defend him. It's literally dozens of separate posters each commenting at separate times after different games and somehow...he's a scapegoat? Just tell us you're more of a Lindelof fan and not of Utd.
He overcompensates at the least needed times and vice versa, doesn't do enough at the pivotal moments like the shite clearance, which led to the Brentford goal.
All in all, it's 'better' than his last few appearances especially at left back but the bar is so low for him and his contribution so ineffective.
It's also amazing some people are still trying to defend him. It's literally dozens of separate posters each commenting at separate times after different games and somehow...he's a scapegoat? Just tell us you're more of a Lindelof fan and not of Utd.
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Horrible for their goal. He has to clear the ball. Pretty typical for him.
I'm sure he was playing with an injured back. We didn't have anybody to sub him out for.
I'm sure he was playing with an injured back. We didn't have anybody to sub him out for.
Because you’re in the Lindelof thread saying “but what about the others”
Nah, there's always one of them that will make a stupid mistake. Today was his turn, Tuesday was Dalot, next game it will be someone else and so it will continue this way until the lot of them are shipped out and replaced.
Nah he's just part of at least 4 defenders who just don't deserve to be here.
He also made a stupid mistake on Tuesday.
That he did, both he and Amrabat did the same stupid thing at the same time.
He has always been a very average player. If someone offers 20m for him we should bite their hands off.
The difference with other players is that they all have had very high level performances or have attributes, which contribute a lot to our game over a large sample size. Maguire was good to very good in his first 18 months here and is really dominant aerially, Shaw with his composure and technique and clutch attacking plays and even with Dalot, he's been arguably our best player this season and being our only right sided width. At the same time they have all had shockingly bottom levels and yes deserve criticism. The issue with defending Lindelof with the logic of 'he was bad...but also there are others are bad' is that the Swede doesn't give us anything most of the time he plays. He's not dominant in any area and the best praise he usually gets is 'did well, didn't make a mistake and didn't look out of place', which basically ignores the fact that he doesn't contribute enough period anyways.
Hair looked great today
We discussed this saying here a few months ago. It makes no sense to bite someone else's hand off if they're offering you a great deal. If you physically attack them in any way, they're very likely withdraw their generous offer. The logic of the metaphor would be to bite your own hand off before the offeror of the great deal has a change of heart-- although that would be pretty daft as well. (Think, the punk in Jack Reacher.) The moment you bite off their hand and if you still don't have a deal in hand, you can kiss the deal au revoir.
That said, if an offer of 20m for Lindelof came in, I'd give it serious thought but the problem is that we're still trying to move Maguire on, Evans is a short termer and I just don't know of any CBs of Lindelof's quality, such as it is, for 20m. We should have gone in for KMJ for the 45m? I think he could have been gotten for but instead we wasted 40m on Onana, which is the subject of another thread.
We should move Lindelof before Maguire, but if ETH stays that is obviously not going to happen, whether it's right or wrong.
I agree with most of your assessment except from the Dalot praise. Him and Lindelof are similar in the sense that they very rarely have above a 6/10 performance, whereas the rest of our defenders (even Maguire a few years ago) have had plenty of 8/10 performances.
I actually don't think we can afford to sell either player right now given the injury situation on the back line. To my knowledge we don't have a young CB ready to step up and as solid as Evans is, his age is a real issue. Higher priorities for me if we need to raise cash for a January buy is selling Sancho and Rashford, which together could bring in 80m. Give the ball to Garnacho at LW and bring in a promising young striker as cover for Hojlund. I'm pretty much done with Antony but there may be hope for him yet.
Thinking he's very bad != being scapegoated.
Accusing people of scapegoating = trying to discredit justified criticism.
Don't really see the issue. Either bring in two good defenders (just look at Pinnock today or Andersen or Guehi for CP) or bring in one very good and one talent. Whats the point in wasting minutes on players you already know they have no future here? This is just not consequential in my eyes. Lets imagine, you let one of Maguire or Lindelof stay for another year because of whatever your reason is, then you have one year where new issues appear and the summer after you have new things to worry about. It is pointless delaying such decisions. I'd see your point if we would have some sort of Golden Generation going on and its our last chance to bring in the Big one or something like that. But that is as far aways from us as anybody could think of.
edit: when I think about it, add two more very young talents on top of the shopping list. How is it possible, that there is nothing happening in the U21 that could do at least as 4th or 5th choice.
That's fine and I suppose it's something we'll find it hard to agree on but Dalot offers much more as a right back than Lindelof as a centre back, who most of the time is just another body. They're not comparable at all for me. The large sample size probably doesn't apply to him but his pre-World Cup form last year and thus far this season is at least a glimpse of the level he's able to produce. Having said that, I'm aware I probably give Dalot benefit of the doubt given his age and inexperience but even taking that into consideration, he still outperforms the Swede for me on an individually level both currently and potential wise.
Totally agree. Lindelof is like the Mata (during his latter Utd career) of centre backs for me. He may be well loved, technical, a consummate professional and actually has a lot of ability but most of those things are theoretical if they are not actually shown on the pitch. I'd much rather have a young athletic potential but given what we know about Utd contracts and the 'he's a good professional' sentiment that is shared by coaches/managers, Lindelof (like Mata) will continue to sign extensions because 1) it's a easy job at Utd and 2) everywhere will be a step down. I don't blame the player for that but it's on the club and manager to move them on.
You're right - we probably won't agree on this. Dalot had a few okay games pre world cup but I think his form this season has been overrated.- attacking wise he's nowhere near the levels we need. Similar to how I don't expect Lindelof to tackle a centre forward charging at him (and I am left pleasantly surprised on the rare occasion he does put a foot in), I don't ever expect Dalot to whip in a pinpoint cross into the path of a United attacker. We need to be ruthless with some of our backup players who we know are never going to be good enough, but instead we rewarded Dalot's mediocrity with a new contract a few months ago. Watch us give Lindelof a new 4 year contract by the end of this season.
Fake viking!
Finally a reasonable post!!
He went straight down the tunnel when subbed of. So possibly yet another defensive injury?
Said it before but this is his seventh season at United
Seventh!!!
I don't think he should be a squad player but it's one of those things where you say there are so many others players that needed replacing
Seventh!!!
I don't think he should be a squad player but it's one of those things where you say there are so many others players that needed replacing
He's no Jonny Evans!
Of course he should be a squad player for us, and he did well for us last season in Martinez' absence. This season, however, he has not been up the the same standard and should not be starting any games. But to say that he's not good enough for the squad, is to take if too far. As a 4th choice, he would be just perfect. At the moment though, I would play Maguire instead as he seems to be in better form.
Was really good last season. Been atrocious this season.
He's only a squad player if standards are low. Which i guess they are.
but this isn't his second or third season.
We've seen six seasons and there's nothing to suggest he's good enough as a backup imo.
No way if he was at another club would we be saying let's get him as a backup
Apparently getting a contract extension....
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38632599/man-united-take-anthony-martial-future-sources
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38632599/man-united-take-anthony-martial-future-sources
Unbelievable that he's still at the club and in line for an extension. Mediocre for basically the entire time he's been at the club.
The article says it's the +1 option, not a new contract. Not really surprising.
Sheffield Utd 1:2 Man Utd
That assist was absolute filth 
Did a job out at LB. Fair play to him
Decent performance, excellent assist to Dalot
Only gave the ball away in dangerous positions 3 times tonight which is a marginal improvement.
He has the thankless task of being our 4th choice left back, did all we could expect.
Can't wait to have a LB, or RB back so he can go to the bench as he deserves.
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