podurban2
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Was he even that good today? Olssen saved a couple of goals, otherwise the score sheet would be at least 3-0
Sweden had 2 great chances. Sweden could have won 2-0.Was he even that good today? Olssen saved a couple of goals, otherwise the score sheet would be at least 3-0
Wow, really missing the point here. We are discussing the defensive performance. I’ll rephrase it ”Spain could have had 3-4 goals easily”.Sweden had 2 great chances. Sweden could have won 2-0.
I was never really worried for 90% of the game. It was mostly low quality chances they had. That late header near the end was good. Then Morata had one decent chance.Wow, really missing the point here. We are discussing the defensive performance. I’ll rephrase it ”Spain could have had 3-4 goals easily”.
You never cease to be amazed at people's opinions once they have decided on something. It does not seem to matter how Victor plays as there are always people who find fault. Against Spain he was incredible and also in most matches in the club team. I want to say that yesterday's match was a total victory for Victor and the whole of Sweden's defense tactics. He is undoubtedly Man Utd's best defender and outclasses McGuire defensively. The price tags should be the ones exchanged and the discussion should be who will replace McGuire next to Victor.
M A G U I R EYou never cease to be amazed at people's opinions once they have decided on something. It does not seem to matter how Victor plays as there are always people who find fault. Against Spain he was incredible and also in most matches in the club team. I want to say that yesterday's match was a total victory for Victor and the whole of Sweden's defense tactics. He is undoubtedly Man Utd's best defender and outclasses McGuire defensively. The price tags should be the ones exchanged and the discussion should be who will replace McGuire next to Victor.
That's very subjective. Maguire is for sure the stronger one out of the two and provides a lot of stability at the back . But as mentioned above by others we haven't been exposed too often on lindelöfs weaknesses, however maguire has been dispossesed with his clumsy ball-handling on several occasions only this past season. We could get an upgrade on both, but atm the brit narrative is that VNL is too weak because he's not vidic and that ben white or vestergaard would improve our overall team performance, playing along maguire. I am a swede so I might subjective as well, yet I'm, again like many others, convinced that an improved dm is more important than a cb upgrade.I agree people are over the top with him but this is just not true. Maguire (not McGuire for a start) is easily the better defender.
I think it says a lot when the majority in this forum reacts with negativity on him becoming motm against spain, with some even suggesting that Danielsson was better. Not that i want him out, but the latter's mistakes could easily have cost sweden the game, if morata could finish
What do people reckon about victor as cdm?
Not that I think it’d work, but the topic really has not been discussed at length on here - anytime it gets brought up, it’s met with some variation of the answer you gave.Why would you consider him in that position when we can and should just buy a specialist? This topic has been discussed at length on this forum and it puzzles me.
He will just let things pass by and leave it for others to deal with. Will get out-muscled in any sort of midfield battle but could distribute the ball well.What do people reckon about victor as cdm?
Why would you consider him in that position when we can and should just buy a specialist? This topic has been discussed at length on this forum and it puzzles me.
Could you point me where its been discussed before? because then ive missed it
He was rated 6 today. On what do you base your nonsense?Best United player in the euros som far. Exceptionella Pogba though, but he's off this summer so no use in counting him.
He was rated 6 today. On what do you base your nonsense?
I don’t think so - Ferdinand was better so was stam, pallister was also a beast. Under fergie Ferdinand has to have been the best CB fergie had.Nemanja Vidic is our greatest CB, at least among those who played for Sir Alex Ferguson.
I haven't seen both Sweden games tbh but glad to see him doing well. There is a higher than 50% chance him and Maguire will continue to be our starting Cb pair for next season.
NonsenseWatching the games in person. Do tell me, mr Blunder, if you go to a restaurant and order something which you think tastes like shit, and I tell you it was rated 8/10, would you consider your own opinion nonsense?
If we get two starters for the team this summer it'll be a miracle.
Nonsense
You were talking drivel. We all watched the game you donkey.Glad you could see what I meant, rare that people change their minds online.
So if you rank the United players so far in the Euros, who has been the best not Pogba and Lindelof?You were talking drivel. We all watched the game you donkey.
I can’t watch you eat in a restaurant.
It’s much more important to keep the team performing at a top level throughout the season than to take a big risk on a key position for maybe £10 to £20 million extra. A weakness in central defense during a few games can easily cost us the season or see us out of UCL.I know that this won’t happen but if we knew that Lindelof is not gonna be a starter and we want to upgrade him, he is good defender having good Euro so there should be a lot of clubs willing to Pay top money if Tomori is going for 30-40 we would easily get around that or more add few € and buy someone for 50-60 mln who would be better partner for Maguire, but to do that we would need some clever guy there but there is non. This is how you make your team better. Right now we would get lot of money but we will buy new defender (i hope) Lindelof will be on the bench out of form, next international matches could also play bad and then maybe we would sell him for half.
I do not why we cannot do that. Just sell good players when they playing well instead of putting them on the bench for few seasons and then get next to nothing.
The same with our youngsters. We could easliy get around 15-20 mln for Williams last year but we will keep him in club for few seasons in case he gets better and only sell if we and everybody else knew he is not gonna make It.
Yeah we’ve unfortunately seen that a lot in his tenureDidn't see the game but that first Poland goal is typical Lindelof. So slow to close the man or space down as if he's scared to commit for fear of making a more obvious mistake. Gave Lewandowski all the time to collect the ball and cut in for the goal.
One of his better performances then by the sounds of it.Significantly involved for both of Lewandowski's goals. First backing off allowing Lewandowski onto his right foot and allowing him to shoot without pressure. Lewandowski makes great contact sure, great finish but you should be expecting that from a top striker. Last thing that should be happening is your CB backing off allowing him on his strongest foot and letting him have a go.
2nd goal Lindelof has Lewandowski then Lewandowski makes a run away from him to get free. Lindelof gets drawn to the ball thinking he can get it but gets it wrong and gets in a muddle with the other defender, and the ball ends up at Lewandowski's feet inside the box