Foxbatt
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If he continues playing for a top club then he surely will captain Sweden one day.
Some sloppy passes first 20 minutes but after that he did ok, even managed to get best passing accuracy in both first and second half. Think he defended good, made good choices and looked good overall apart from the start. What I miss is the creativity from both CB. Lindelof advanced through in the last minute and with good success. I want much more of that from both of them.
I missed that from everybody, not just Lindelof. Maguire was even less creative and the midfield also need to improve that aspect of the game.Well, there you go.
Is average.
I missed that from everybody, not just Lindelof. Maguire was even less creative and the midfield also need to improve that aspect of the game.
I had the feeling he missed many passes in first half but according to stats it was rather few.
Very passive passing wise.
Anyone can give to Pogba and then stand back.
Not really seeing this 'ball playing CB'. Played the easy pass 9 times out of 10.
Very passive passing wise.
Anyone can give to Pogba and then stand back.
Not really seeing this 'ball playing CB'. Played the easy pass 9 times out of 10.
He's not a "ball playing CB"
He's a "comfortable on the ball CB"
Basically he has decent technique for receiving and passing the ball around, but he wont regularly play the ball into more advanced areas that set the team on the attack, which is something Maguire will do
Pretty much every CB does, even the ones renowned for their passing. VVD will ping a beaut to the wing a few times a game but the vast majority of the passes are the short, simple, continuity types that we saw from ours tonight. You shouldn't be relying on the CB's for creativity.
Yeah that's the disappointing part. He's comfortable on the ball but played risk adverse passes, which in effect are actually net-negative balls.
You can't have most of the possession and yet find that you play most of your passes to Pogba/Mctominay in the middle of your own half.
I'm not asking for creativity, just a bit more forward balls and ability on the ball where he doesn't sh|t himself whenever a player goes to press him. It effectively means Pogba/Mctominay have to drop further back.
Ok I'm ranting and slightly exaggerating but at least Jones will come up with the ball more and you know for sure someone like Smalling will go chasing the ball high up and dominate physically. Lindelof is like Shaw levels of passiveness.
Yeah I don’t really see him as a ball playing CB either, he’s comfortable with the ball at his feet but he rarely does anything proactive with it either through dribbling or passing, he just seems to pass responsibility onto whoever’s nearest to him. I hope he shows more on the ball this season because of not then, whilst he’s a good defender, I just don’t think he adds enough to the team, given our ambitions.He's not a "ball playing CB"
He's a "comfortable on the ball CB"
Basically he has decent technique for receiving and passing the ball around, but he wont regularly play the ball into more advanced areas that set the team on the attack, which is something Maguire will do
He beat Jota to a header in the 1st half - I consider this progress but he’ll let us down again soon.
Agreed, I've seen a lot of harsh comments about our performance but really we limited them to a 5-10 minute spell, they just capitalised on their spell very well, it was such a good finish that even De Gea at full stretch couldn't keep it out.First 20 minutes had me thinking this was the end of Lindelof's reign in the side. Ice man pulled it together and I believe he had the best passing stats after the 20 minutes. Stayed cool and collected with Harry and if it wasn't for a wonder strike he'd have another clean sheet.
Had a good game. People like to nitpick on everything. One miss hit on a clearance volley and everything good he did rest of the game is forgotten.
He didnt do much, thats generally his problem. He's quite passive. He won 3 tackles and made 2 clearances with 2 headers, and 0 blocked shots. 7 actions combined.
Maguire was 14 actions combined, Coady was 9 actions combined, Bennet was 8 actions combined and Boly was 9 actions combined. And the Wolves CBs had the defensive responsibility shared between 3 people. This tends to be how Lindelof is, the CB on the pitch that does that contributes the least defensive actions. Maguire does more on the ball too so he feels quite pointless.
Watch out, they will claim Maldini and Rio were carried by their centre back partners.So what. Maldini made 1 tackle every 2 games. Rio averaged about the same. 1 tackle every 2 games, and 1 headed clearance per game. It's a meaningless stat for those who have no other way to judge a player.
Lindelof is the Rio to Maguire's Vidic. You can't have two of the same.
Of course the Wolves CB's will have done much more. United dominated the game. Also when its a back 3 the LCB & RCB do a role of CB and fullback.He didnt do much, thats generally his problem. He's quite passive. He won 3 tackles and made 2 clearances with 2 headers, and 0 blocked shots. 7 actions combined.
Maguire was 14 actions combined, Coady was 9 actions combined, Bennet was 8 actions combined and Boly was 9 actions combined. And the Wolves CBs had the defensive responsibility shared between 3 people. This tends to be how Lindelof is, the CB on the pitch that does that contributes the least defensive actions. Maguire does more on the ball too so he feels quite pointless.
He's not a "ball playing CB"
He's a "comfortable on the ball CB"
Basically he has decent technique for receiving and passing the ball around, but he wont regularly play the ball into more advanced areas that set the team on the attack, which is something Maguire will do
So what. Maldini made 1 tackle every 2 games. Rio averaged about the same. 1 tackle every 2 games, and 1 headed clearance per game. It's a meaningless stat for those who have no other way to judge a player.
Lindelof is the Rio to Maguire's Vidic. You can't have two of the same.
He didnt do much, thats generally his problem. He's quite passive. He won 3 tackles and made 2 clearances with 2 headers, and 0 blocked shots. 7 actions combined.
Maguire was 14 actions combined, Coady was 9 actions combined, Bennet was 8 actions combined and Boly was 9 actions combined. And the Wolves CBs had the defensive responsibility shared between 3 people. This tends to be how Lindelof is, the CB on the pitch that does that contributes the least defensive actions. Maguire does more on the ball too so he feels quite pointless.
This is a very absurd criticsm that Lindelof always seem to get. SO what do you want him to do just make rash tackle or just give away stupid pens like Jones. He does his job almost effectively every game. He is not a Ramos type defender and trust me we don't need one considering we have found our leader in Maguire. All we need Lindelof to do is do his job effectively. And we have yet to see the best of him.
Exactly. Out of 61 CBs (who played as CBs more than 10 games) Van Dijk was in
55th position for tackles won per 90 mins
51st in Interceptions
27th in clearances
47th in shots blocked
6th in aerial duels won
Must be a shit CB.
He just needs to be less passive and try to win the ball a bit earlier in moves, or take command of situations. Same as any CB.