One of the reasons I hate VAR these days is that once Garnacho scored today I kept waiting for them to find a reason to disallow it.
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Should be yellow for Young to if it is penalty. Once again, the FA is making it hard for us.
I don't know how he saw that as a dive in real time but he made the decision instead of letting VAR do all the work.
For once VAR gives one for us
I don’t think so at all. Foul but not a yellow card. Ref and VAR got this totally right imo.
VAR is brilliant.
Sure that must be goalscoring opportunity?
Got to laugh at the ref trying to book Martial basically for being French
That's your paranoia
The rule is "denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity". It was Martial who got fouled I think so not a yellow card.
Same here. I don’t know if other teams’ fans feel it to the same extent but we’ve had so many goals ruled out this season that I can’t celebrate unless the tone of the commentators in the 10 seconds after do not hint towards a looming VAR check.
You get 2 celebrations, one for the goal, another for the "VAR complete" confirmation!
Does anyone else refuse to celebrate VAR decisions made in our favour out of the principle of being against VAR?
Maybe, yeah. Saw a comment on Reddit saying VAR can’t award a yellow so it may be because of that. Personally I still don’t think it was worthy of a yellow.
VAR have systematically disallowed goals for United this season which have been allowed for other teams in identical circumstances. We have also seen other rules/decisions implemented for the first time against United when not enforced elsewhere.
Not paranoia to genuinely expect them to rule it out for a high foot or endangering an opponent.
VAR finally used in our favour. I legitimately can't remember the last time VAR overturned a decision to our benefit. Even then, deprived of the chance to rob us, the ref still contrived to give us only the barest minimum. No yellow for Ashley Young despite an undeniable stonewall penalty and him loudly and repeatedly protesting an objetively correct penalty call, to the point that players had to physically pull him away from the ref.
It simply isn't possible to get sent off against United, and while it's nice that VAR ensured that the penalty was given, it is once again worth noting that the ref's first impulse was to not only deny it but also book Martial for "diving." And when forced to change that, he still insisted on being as lenient on our opponents as at all possible, as refs always are. Every week, without exception.
It simply isn't possible to get sent off against United, and while it's nice that VAR ensured that the penalty was given, it is once again worth noting that the ref's first impulse was to not only deny it but also book Martial for "diving." And when forced to change that, he still insisted on being as lenient on our opponents as at all possible, as refs always are. Every week, without exception.
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Arsenal game VAR overturned a penalty for the Havertz dive but then got so many other decisions wrong (Saka not sent off, Garnacho onside, foul in build up to their winner).
In my mind this’ll be the noble protest / self punishment that forces FIFA to abandon it
I'm sorry man, the thought of someone being this principled tickled me
Who'd have thought that when VAR is used correctly we have a chance in games?
I've jinxed it nicely for you!
Hojlund pen not given
That too.
The best part is if the ref didn't book martial and just thought it was no pen, it may not have been "clear and obvious" enough for VAR to over turn.
Oh man we got a VAR decision that was spot on!
Everyone rejoice!
Everyone rejoice!
Do you have the video of penalty on Martial ?
Yeah, that's a great point.
Breathtaking call to basically call Martial a cheat. Maybe don't give the pen, but to be so adamant it was cheating was outrageous.
Amazed you can trip someone sprinting through on goal and escape.a booking too.
Especially considering the view he had of the incident. What’s his excuse?
Amazing for anyone to make out that Young has been hard done by there.
The replays clearly show not only the contact, but that Ashley Young is nowhere near the ball, and playing the man.
Martial doesn't have any obligation to bend his run around Young's hapless challenge.
The replays clearly show not only the contact, but that Ashley Young is nowhere near the ball, and playing the man.
Martial doesn't have any obligation to bend his run around Young's hapless challenge.
This, it was an absolute stonewall pen, and as you say Martial doesn't have to avoid any challenge.
Young was lucky to not get the 2nd yellow. Penalty was super clear.
Strange that referee gave a dive without hesitation. It looked a clear foul in real time on the TV angle. The referee was much closer and the right side of the challenge to see the trip. The VAR angle he deliberated over the most was the one from where he was literally standing.
Young looked guilty as soon as it happened, he knew it. Not sure what he could have been mouthing off about afterwards. If the referee had called it properly as it happened, it should have been a 2nd yellow for him.
Young looked guilty as soon as it happened, he knew it. Not sure what he could have been mouthing off about afterwards. If the referee had called it properly as it happened, it should have been a 2nd yellow for him.
I’m going to give the benefit of the doubt to the referee there. If he didn’t see the contact but saw Martial’s body shape as he went down it’s not hard to believe he might have felt that he manufactured some contact while diving and if I’m honest I think that’s exactly what he did. The problem for Young is that he gave the referee no choice but to overturn his decision and award the penalty because Martial didn’t need to manufacture any contact at all because Young did all that work for him so it was as clear a penalty as you will get and Martial’s actions have absolutely no bearing because of that.
It took the clowns in black like an hour to grant the pen to us.
Cavanah in the Var didn't want to take responsibility so he gave the decision to the ref on the pitch even though you can clearly see that Martial was fouled.
Cavanah in the Var didn't want to take responsibility so he gave the decision to the ref on the pitch even though you can clearly see that Martial was fouled.
This is what I was trying to say in the match day thread. It's definitely a penalty but Martial exaggerates the contact a bit too.
One of those though where if Young does nothing Martial goes through and could well end up scoring anyway.
Clear foul on Allison. Dunno what Pep complained about.
Akanji touched GK' shoulders with force. Wouldn't been a foul if that was a defender but you can't do that to GK.
Akanji touched GK' shoulders with force. Wouldn't been a foul if that was a defender but you can't do that to GK.
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I actually like that the ref gave Everton a free kick, if he thought he saw Martial dive then bravo for having the guts to make that call. It's the exact scenario that VAR was made for and they got the decision 100% correct in the end.