Now both Arsenal and Liverpool fans are crazy over the yellow on Tosin. Ball clearly travelling towards the right wing not towards the goal.
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I dont know why people keep saying you cant be offside from a corner, Ive seen it on BBC too. Does anybody actually think you can? He's stopping Sa getting to the ball, its a foul in its own right. If it isnt, then great, I dont want to ever see an opposition goalkeeper claim a corner against us. Of course there won't be any consistency though, the Hojlund example above is a fine example of that.
The best I can do here is concede that its hardly the worst decision weve ever seen. What infuriates me though, is how frequently these 50/50 calls go for city. Im pretty confident that if you made a list of 'controversial' var calls that teams feel aggrieved by, city would have the fewest. Whether its a guardiola impact (he may as well have taken the whistle today) or something else, I dont know.
If you dive enough, you will get penalty.
There are few really lucky teams when it comes to decisions.
There are few really lucky teams when it comes to decisions.
Sancho denied a clear pen.
That's one of the reasons why Brentford scored. The defence should have done better but there was a big De Ligt shaped hole, where he normally is from corners, which they exploited to score. He had blood on his head/face but it didn't look like it was bleeding at the time.
Ten Hag gave out post match as he said it was dried blood.
Easy pen tbh.
That gets given down the other end no problem. Once again a dodgy decision in favour of the Scousers at Anfield and the media will say nothing. But will have a meltdown if United get the slightest of decisions
It wouldn't be disallowed because hes not in the way of the keeeper diving. Hes not inline with the keeper to the right.
He is also not in an offside position until the ball is headed. So he is allowed to “interfere” with the keeper from the corner thats why he is there. And he gets out of the way before he becomes offside
Very clear penalty.
he's not allowed to foul him though.
As i said above, its not the worst decision ive seen, but im not remotely surprised that it went citys way. This is my main issue, as it seems almost every time theyre involved in a big call it seems to go their way
Blatant pen and then they couldn’t wait to disallow Jackson’s goal. Normally they’d let it go and check for offside on VAR.
He didnt foul him though
He blocks him from coming for the ball. Its why hes there. By the time he gets out of the way the ball is on stones head.
I can see the argument for disagreeing. But i don't doubt we will be in this thread at some point this season after either getting one disallowed for similar.
“he blocks him from coming for the ball”. Yes thats not a foul, you can stand where you want from a corner kick
That's just wrong. The goalkeeper is setting himself for diving for the ball and Bernardo Silva is backing into the goalkeeper and bumps him with the entire intention of his actions to prevent him from being balanced so he cannot get a good spring and can only make a save if it's straight at him.
It should be a foul.
'impedes an opponent with contact'. Definition of what constitutes a foul under the law. As I said it can be argued either way until the end of time, but my point will be made clearer in the coming weeks or months when we see something similar given against a team that isn't city
What dive? The ball is in the air coming in from the corner at that point. The keeper was not setting for any dive
He's setting himself in anticipation. Silva knocks him off balance so he cannot generate spring when City win the ball.
Hes completely set before the header with clear view of the ball
Not completely. If not for the intentional interference with him he would be on an upwards movement after the header, the delay meant he was unable to physically react in time because he was still sorting his feet.
Yeah ok…
If you think Silva fouled Sa, that makes sense. Because in that case the goal should have been disallowed for a foul.
I think the vast majority of people would say it wasn't a foul though. In which case it's irrelevant to the actual offside call.
What Silva did is obstruction. Shouldn't stand.
Obstructions happens on nearly every corner kick
Sky twisting themselves in knots trying to say Liverpool should have had 2 penalties. Barely saw them even mention this.
Shouldnt.
They do, but when it's been made on the keeper and it's lead to a goal, then they're usually ruled out.
Isn’t that enough? His knee is pretty high regardless of the outcome.
You can read my other posts if you're interested in my opinion. I'm not going through it all over again.
About the City winner - I don't see how it could be ruled offside. He's clearly not impacting the goalkeeper as Stones head the ball (which is the only thing that matter in terms of it being offside). However, I do see a case for it to be disallowed because I don't like the kind of interference Silva does before the header. I know a lot of teams apply this tactic, and I think refs should do something about that. At least they're consistent in regards to this, though.
Was that the one where Maguire was ruled to having committed a "subjective offside"? A term which had never been heard of before or since.
Maguire made an attempt to play the ball, that by definition alone is trying to interfere with play
People are bringing up Evans because of the City goal a few hours ago, which was a subjective offside decision. It's literally what the last few pages are about.
It's not called Scouse Sport for nothing!
how is that NOT a penalty??
Clear and obvious penalty but we have a team of professional referees including those VAR officials sitting in front of screen with slow motion display somehow missed it. How can it be possible?
I don't know how much longer the "They are shit at their job" excuse can be used. Every fecking week, there is something very weird happening...