I wouldn’t, it was marginal at best. Casemiro made a good tackle, Amrabat and Gordon had a clash of legs but nothing clear cut.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) get the depressing job of reviewing United's 3-0 loss at Old Trafford to Liverpool. They discuss what went wrong, Casemiro's day to forget, and the pressure now on Erik Ten Hag. They also take some time to give McTominay a proper farewell, and give their overall thoughts on the Summer Transfer Window.
I wouldn’t, it was marginal at best. Casemiro made a good tackle, Amrabat and Gordon had a clash of legs but nothing clear cut.
Yeah the same for me. The contact wasn’t big but he stepped on his achilles. Stupid foul when Casemiro had it covered. We’re lucky, which is nice for a change.
That was nothing. Small contact. Casemiro took the ball away. Gordon was never going to get chance. For me, no penalty.
What?!?! Come on, have an unbiased discussion. Did you not see Gordon’s sock and heel? Its a defo pen
This is why I can’t take posters seriously on this forum. The bias is staggering. I’m an avid Utd fan, but I’ll call it as it is. That’s a penalty every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Yeah. It’s not a collision or clash of legs when the attacking player is running with the ball towards the goal and is about to shoot, and the defending player tackles him from behind without even being close to getting the ball.
Fair enough, but for me if the contact was enough to rip his sock and cause that redness we saw then it was enough contact to be a foul. Was clumsy from Amrabat, who was panicking.
You have to be fecking kidding?It's not illegal to suggest we might have had a slice of luck, feck me.
The Brighton one is madness. How can VAR be so shit in England?
It isn’t. For me. There is no bias.
He is taking a risk and against some other team or other referee it might have been different. But for me, nothing.
Just a fair conclusion from me.
It's not illegal to suggest we might have had a slice of luck, feck me.
Game's not gone
That is not how bias works
Stupid idea to remove it. Of course a nothing club like Wolves has the idea. Too many boomers still in charge of football. This is footballs we equivalent of turning back Roe vs Wade.
You are genuinely talking utter shite
didn't he rip his sock too?Another bad decision
If it was at the other end, you wouldn’t have got to see 15 replays, from every angle in slow motion. If it was at the other end it would have been brushed off and not discussed by anyone in the broadcast.
That may well be true, but it doesn’t change the fact for me that it should’ve been given.
I reckon we've had equivalent or more contact not given as penalties at least 10 times this season.
It has to go. They’ll vote for it to stay though.
2 stonewall reds not given for Brighton now, ridiculous
Scrap VAR now...
They should also scrap the ref's whistle and the linesman's flag. That will stop them from fecking up!
How do people reason the technology is at fault. They have to improve the use of the technology, not ban the technology, because of human error using it. What are we, the medieval church?
How do people reason the technology is at fault. They have to improve the use of the technology, not ban the technology, because of human error using it. What are we, the medieval church?
Pity James didn't concuss his opponent with an elbow off the ball because apparently that's ok
Exactly. Clearly the point is not to scrap VAR but on the contrary to fecking look at the images on the screen. What are these clowns doing.
Exactly and they are just pushed aside with no discussion.
I think it was a pen but I dont think the ref had a good enough view to give it.
That is not how bias works
They were one of a handful people claiming conspiracy during Liverpool's game (which nothing was riding on for pool) for perfectly good offside calls.
There's no objectivity there no matter what they claim.
The referees are getting what they wanted all along. They will go back to being infallible gods who cannot be questioned.
No it wasn't, that's why VAR was introduced.
In the PL it's just used by refs to back up their mates which is the problem.
Who's saying that? Clearly the problem is the implementation. Which sounded bad before it was introduced, due to the lack of plan for edge cases and subjective calls. If anything the reality was even worse than many of us feared.
Wolves have put forward a motion to scrap VAR completely in the Premier League starting set season.
The motion will be discussed and voted on at the next EPL clubs meeting on June 6th.
Personally I hate VAR, it has been given enough time to get decisions right, but after what 3 seasons, we are still seeing mistakes, mistakes that are costing teams matches and points.
I agree with the goal ling technology, that should stay, but the sooner they get shot of VAR the better.
The motion will be discussed and voted on at the next EPL clubs meeting on June 6th.
Personally I hate VAR, it has been given enough time to get decisions right, but after what 3 seasons, we are still seeing mistakes, mistakes that are costing teams matches and points.
I agree with the goal ling technology, that should stay, but the sooner they get shot of VAR the better.
Nothing but a clash of feet on Gordon not a pen for me
2 players running alongside each other it happens
2 players running alongside each other it happens
It's a pen due to Amrabat.
It's clearly a penalty but feck em. We've been fecked by VAR all season after the first game against Wolves.
Screenshot makes it look like he’s trying to make a tackle, which would be much worse. They’re both running, Amrabat can’t change where he’s planting his foot while running.
Subjective calls are always going to be like this.
Long way to say it's a foul.
It was a clear foul and penalty. We got really lucky (for a change)
If it's called at the time, VAR doesn't overturn it, but not clear and obvious enough to give in retro in my book. We got away with one sure, but given the clear and obvious wording is no pen on referral for me.
It was definitely a penalty.
But Sky showed 97 replays and spent half an hour talking about it to drum up some drama.
Compared to the precisely zero mentions of the foul on Evans as he was trying to get out to Hall for their 2nd goal.
It’s double standards as usual this season.
But Sky showed 97 replays and spent half an hour talking about it to drum up some drama.
Compared to the precisely zero mentions of the foul on Evans as he was trying to get out to Hall for their 2nd goal.
It’s double standards as usual this season.
Nah, was just a tangle of feet. I know the ripped sock and red ankle looked painful but there was zero intent. Correct call.