I genuinely believe Garnacho was onside and Hojlund should have had a penalty in the Arsenal game, but to claim the wrong offside call made against Liverpool isn't a VAR malfunction is strange to say the least.
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The decision VAR made was correct, the checked the goal and correctly determined it was onside.
They didnt overturn the on-field decision because they thought the on-field decision was goal.
So they incorrectly responded to the on field decision then?
Because you're focusing only on the VAR, which is why I specificied "overall".
The on-field decision was incorrectly "offside" and VAR confirmed that to be correct.
VAR can't have been correct when, by your own acknowledgement, they didn't actually know what they were checking. On its own, that is staggering incompetence.
The fact that neither VAR or the on-field official confirmed what was being checked and what the actual decision was just adds to the incompetence.
This is such a strange hill to die on.
Exhibit #26484929174 of why VAR is shite. One of the most clear penalty decisions you’ll see, yet we still had to wait 2 minutes with everyone stood around for VAR to confirm it.
I think they were checking offside rather than whether it was a penalty. Still shite though
Well, looks like they've found a loophole in the handball law, just miss a header and then grab the ball when it's on the ground to prevent a player from going through on a 1v1 
Honestly they give the harsh ones where there’s no danger and completely accidental and don’t give the ones where the defenders are desperately trying to make up for mistakes. Bizarre.Well, looks like they've found a loophole in the handball law, just miss a header and then grab the ball when it's on the ground to prevent a player from going through on a 1v1
Least Everton gifted us another
Reminds me of the time Cedric crawled on all fours and swooped the ball away with his arm from the penalty area and VAR thought that was a completely natural movement.Honestly they give the harsh ones where there’s no danger and completely accidental and don’t give the ones where the defenders are desperately trying to make up for mistakes. Bizarre.
Least Everton gifted us another
This silly law that you can't handle it if youre breaking your fallWell, looks like they've found a loophole in the handball law, just miss a header and then grab the ball when it's on the ground to prevent a player from going through on a 1v1
Well, breaking your fall is one thing but completely mistiming a diving header that ends up in you preventing a goalscoring opportunity by hugging the ball with both hands should surely be a foul somehow, otherwise players can just dive forwards in the penalty area and if they block the ball with their hands as they fall they can claim they're just breaking their fall.
PGMOL: It is a natural movement for a crab and from the video evidence we couldn't say that it was clear and obvious that Cedric is not in fact a crab, therefore it wasn't enough to overturn the on-field call.I always forget about this one. Absolutely ridiculous
That's what I meant though. The rule is legitimate if you're breaking your fall but the refs just blanket it to cover anytime anyone is on the ground.
Eg the one against arsenal a few years ago
Edit I see someone has posted the video
Edit 2 that fecking stupid rule right there
Yeah I agree with that.That's what I meant though. The rule is legitimate if you're breaking your fall but the refs just blanket it to cover anytime anyone is on the ground.
Eg the one against arsenal a few years ago
There’s one there. The excuse from VAR is he needs his arms to support the slide. Absolutely no chance
Stupid stupid interpretation of the rule. That has to be handball
Twice now.
Another situation. His fall is already broken. Can you just keep your arm extended behind you for the duration of the slide and block balls?
You know there'll be a more ridiculous handball given this weekend
First handball had enough plausiblity to being innocent, but that second was a pisstake
I reckon they'll give Everton one in the second half for "having his arm behind him while sliding for too long".
Who "breaks a fall" by having their arm out as far behind their body as possible?
Don't know how the rule is written in this regard. I don't think the first should be a penalty but the second one seems ridiculous not to be a penalty.
Casemiro for having fat fingers
Im actually quite surprised that we’ve seen 2 penalties given to us by the referee quickly. Usually they refuse the whistle and let VAR deliberate for 5 mins.
Yeah, first one never a pen…but the second one, the defender knew what he was doing.
Defenders should just dolphin dive above the ball whenever there's a shot.
If we got away with that against Liverpool Klopp would be barking about it until the end of time.
Arsenal, City, Liverpool all get penalties there.
Arsenal, City, Liverpool all get penalties there.
You can be offside when your feet are on the halfway line and you're leaning over it, then?
Seems ridiculous
Seems ridiculous
They use the furthest point forward so it makes sense based on the rules but I've been saying for ages in here i think it's ridiculous they don't just use feet only
Yeah I think it should be the feet as well. One player leaning further forward or just being a bigger man than another shouldn't really be the determining factor in an offside decision.
Definitely. Would make the assistants life easier as well
So many issues could easily be fixed if they just got a panel of football fans with several pints of beer and packets of crisps making up the rules instead of IFAB
VAR would work fine then too
VAR would work fine then too
Odegard giggles and runs away into the horizon.
Laws may be laws, but that disallowed goal for Bournemouth is a disgrace
In the ground I was convinced the first one was a handball but was unconvinced by the second, need to see both again clearly!
Why didnt they go to VAR for the possible Paulinha second yellow? Felt like it was a pretty solid yellow card offense. Is that the issue...because it was not a red card offense?
Personally I’m glad we didn’t get 3 penalties today. That’s all the narrative would have been in the media this week and we wouldn’t get another until December at the earliest.