van Gaal joins: Official

PickledRed said:
No reason? Not one? I'll propose a few...

- 6 teams were better last season
- The top 4 are currently strong and will build on the back of having CL football to offer players
- LVG has no PL experience
- LVG needs to get it right in the market as he's being given money to buy a lot of players
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Point 1 - that was last season, Spurs are in trouble getting a right manager and Everton might run out of steam plus LFC do not have depth in squad.

Point 2 - Look at your transfer targets before using CL as a pull factor.

Point 3 - Pellingrini has no PL experience but won it in the first season

Point 4 - he is not only given money but loads of money. SAF purchased were wrongful at times but still win the league.
 
Any news about the futures of Scholes, Butt and P Neville ? :confused:

We will regret it for years on end if United lets the beautiful mind of the Ginger Prince walk away from Old Trafford. The other two I'm not sure about but they're great servants nonetheless and definitely must have some merit to warrant roles in the backroom staff.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Tan: There is one player I think who could leave United. Because at the Dutch NT you have 30 players and he’s not there. (Buttner) So I imagine if you’re not good enough for the Dutch NT are you good enough for Manchester United?
LVG: Well you could say stuff like that, but I can’t talk about that. This wouldn’t be good for Buttner if I answered this nor would it be good for United or for me.
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Wow that host just sunk Buttner
 
YzWayne said:
Point 1 - that was last season, Spurs are in trouble getting a right manager and Everton might run out of steam plus LFC do not have depth in squad.

Point 2 - Look at your transfer targets before using CL as a pull factor.

Point 3 - Pellingrini has no PL experience but won it in the first season

Point 4 - he is not only given money but loads of money. SAF purchased were wrongful at times but still win the league.
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:lol: That was two right hooks, a left cross and an uppercut to the chin..well said man
 
ricky-romeo said:
glad kluivert isn't joining btw. he rejected us back in 1998 by saying arsenal is the only english team he would join. glad we signed yorke instead and ends up with the treble.

so van gaal has brought along a GK coach and an opponent scout specialist to be with him and giggsy. surely there is a place or two left on the bench. hoping for someone like rene now.:drool:
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I remember that. He came across as so smug in that interview: 'For me Arsenal is the only English team', bet he didn't think that when he was toiling away at Newcastle. Frankly, I never thought Kluivert was that good. He was very fortunate that Van Gaal gave him the chance to play for Barcelona, not displeased that Van Gaal didn't open the door for him here.

I agree with what you say about his coaching staff. Considering how many bodies surround him with the national side Van Gaal's coaching staff looks quite thin, I guess it depends how much work Bout does working with the players to prepare them for opposition tactics. However, it does feel like there could be a first team coach vacancy.
 
PickledRed said:
Does Mourinho sell these types to rivals? I think you're overstating his impact and ignoring the elephant in the corner that he may be on the wane.

As for LVG, nothing is certain on that front. He's never managed in the PL.
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Mata maybe on the wane because Jose sold him? :lol:

EDIT: Jose sold Ibra to Barca, although not a direct rival but a European one. I am sure he was on the wane too :p
 
niMic said:
Isn't the Manchester United forum off limits for supporters of other clubs?
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Probably not but Liverpool fans are trying their best to make it happen.

NK86 said:
Mata maybe on the wane because Jose sold him? :lol:

EDIT: Jose sold Ibra to Barca, although not a direct rival but a European one. I am sure he was on the wane too :p
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Mata on a wane. Heard it all now. He was sold coming off his best season. You'd think he's 33 years old.
 
MDFC Manager said:
Probably not but Liverpool fans are trying their best to make it happen.


Mata on a wane. Heard it all now. He was sold coming off his best season. You'd think he's 33 years old.
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I tell you man, these Liverpool supporters are really getting way ahead of themselves after one good season, in which they didn't even win anything! The way they are speaking, any person with no knowledge of what happened this season would believe as if they just achieved the quadruple! :p
 
PickledRed said:
Interestingly, I didn't even bring up Liverpool in my original post but then others enticed me into a debate when they brought Liverpool into it. It's not all one way.

I will stay clear if it's getting annoying. Sorry.
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I didnt see the original post but this is LVG thread, there are other threads where we can discuss will Liverpool fail next season and will we battle for 4th place or not.
 
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Good thing in appointing Van Gaal is he's not afraid to do something else.

Whether the club did, or it's Van Gaal's decision, the last Fergusionians left the club in Evra, Vidic, Rio, Giggsy. And now the remaining players will adapt his method or leave this summer as simple as that. He'll be free to do what he wants.

Tactically, whether he stays in 4-2-3-1, plays in his favorite 4-3-3 (or Dutch) 3-5-2 or tries a 4-3-1-2 without wingers, he'll do his things.

He will build a strong basis, buy new players, trust some of them and with a good summer, we'll be back
 
NK86 said:
I tell you man, these Liverpool supporters are really getting way ahead of themselves after one good season, in which they didn't even win anything! The way they are speaking, any person with no knowledge of what happened this season would believe as if they just achieved the quadruple! :p
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Most Liverpool fans that I jokingly(but they don't know) say 'hard luck on missing out on the league', their reply is mostly that they're happy with the 2nd place finish. It's like they have convinced themselves that as long as you finish 2nd, all is going to be well again.

They could easily end up back in 7th next season. Easily.
 
#07 said:
I remember that. He came across as so smug in that interview: 'For me Arsenal is the only English team', bet he didn't think that when he was toiling away at Newcastle. Frankly, I never thought Kluivert was that good. He was very fortunate that Van Gaal gave him the chance to play for Barcelona, not displeased that Van Gaal didn't open the door for him here.

I agree with what you say about his coaching staff. Considering how many bodies surround him with the national side Van Gaal's coaching staff looks quite thin, I guess it depends how much work Bout does working with the players to prepare them for opposition tactics. However, it does feel like there could be a first team coach vacancy.
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Seriously, this might literally be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read at this forum. I'm not even going against it, if you think that's true, good luck to you my friend.
 
Shark said:
Most Liverpool fans that I jokingly(but they don't know) say 'hard luck on missing out on the league', their reply is mostly that they're happy with the 2nd place finish. It's like they have convinced themselves that as long as you finish 2nd, all is going to be well again.

They could easily end up back in 7th next season. Easily.
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Basically this. They are holding onto the hope that they will continue on their upward trajectory. That could be the case but if history has shown anything, they have had one similarly good season in the PL in the last decade and they fell out of the CL places the following season. It's amazing that they are trying to completely ignore that.
 
just 11 for mental? what kind of mental is this? if this is about that mental mental then he is a 21/20.:lol:
 
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Henrik Larsson said:
Seriously, this might literally be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read at this forum. I'm not even going against it, if you think that's true, good luck to you my friend.
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Thanks. Never hurts to have people wishing you well.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think that stat is how mentally stable they are. The higher it is, the less chance there is he's going to do something nuts
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Than Van Gaal's should be like 3. Seriously I am pretty sure the mental stat is how well the coach teaches the mental side of the game to their players.
 
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Henrik Larsson said:
Kluivert was not better than the real Ronaldo, I give you that ;)
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I'm not saying he is a bad player but Kluivert's career spanned from 1994 to 2008. If you think of the strikers active during that time period at the top of the game I think its fair to say Kluivert wasn't at quite that level. You have already named Luiz Ronaldo but there's also the likes Batitsuta, Raul, Van Nistlerooy etc. Kluivert was 28 years old when he ended up at Newcastle. If he was one of the game's truly elite he wouldn't have turned up at a club that had won nothing in decades at 28.
 
#07 said:
I'm not saying he is a bad player but Kluivert's career spanned from 1994 to 2008. If you think of the strikers active during that time period at the top of the game I think its fair to say Kluivert wasn't at quite that level. You have already named Luiz Ronaldo but there's also the likes Batitsuta, Raul, Van Nistlerooy etc. Kluivert was 28 years old when he ended up at Newcastle. If he was one of the game's truly elite he wouldn't have turned up at a club that had won nothing in decades at 28.
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Luis Suarez. Last I checked Liverpool havent won anything in decades.
 
Adebesi said:
Luis Suarez. Last I checked Liverpool havent won anything in decades.
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Why did Kluivert turn so crap aged 28-30, was it injuries, mental, a Torres situation x1000? Never really read anything about the subject.
 
Surely Moyes' preferred formation is 4-4-1-Tim Cahill?
 
Does anyone know when Kevin Strootman is fit?

After his obvious statement which basically confirmed his interest in him, would he be fit for the start of the season?
 
Fergies Formula said:
Does anyone know when Kevin Strootman is fit?

After his obvious statement which basically confirmed his interest in him, would he be fit for the start of the season?
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Rumors say earliest August, latest September. Very very bad injury he got.
 
alastair said:
I'm relatively happy with this appointment from an Arsenal perspective, all in all.

This guy is nearing the end of his career and appears to have been employed as a stopgap before Giggs moves into the role - another thing I wouldn't mind seeing.

He's no longer at the top table of European managers. He went to coach internationally which is really the mark of semi-retirement and he really feels like the best of a rather insipid selection chosen because Ancelotti and Klopp weren't available.

This idea that he's going to help United sweep back to power is quite ambitious, in my view. I reckon the remit is back to top four this year and then maybe something more afterwards. The job is sizeable. The coach is unproven in this league, easily falls out with players and it is very possible that he won't be a success.

When he was linked with Spurs, I didn't see many clamouring for United to step in to stop him. There's a reason why.

Big risk.
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Hold on: He's younger than Wenger and a more distinguished, and probably better, manager. Next season we're going to have a better first team and squad than Arsenal.

Arsenal delusion is quite something. If I were you I'd be more concerned that your club's ambitions have lowered to the point where winning the FA Cup is seen as the start of a renaissance.
 
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