They may be extreme to you but they are fairly centrist in terms of the US political medium. Left wing dems have no power right now other than shouting and obstruction. Instead of blindly doing that across the board they should find ways to actually get policy through. Infrastructure is a good example - Trump is for it and it creates loads of jobs which both parties can agree on.
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They may be extreme to you but they are fairly centrist in terms of the US political medium. Left wing dems have no power right now other than shouting and obstruction. Instead of blindly doing that across the board they should find ways to actually get policy through. Infrastructure is a good example - Trump is for it and it creates loads of jobs which both parties can agree on.
Nor do the centrist Dems at federal level. Republicans like Paul aren't 'centrist' - he's quite literally a libertarian!
In establishment terms there are at least 10 or so Senators who can work with establishment Dems on various things. McCain Graham, Murkowski, Collins, Capto, Alexander, Heller, Portman, Sullivan, and Gardner off the top of my head are all amenable to work with Dems. McCain and Chris Coons just unveiled an immigration bill a couple of months ago and there have been numerous bills to protect Mueller (among others) that have been worked up through bipartisan channels.
Lyin' Ted starting to sweat a bit....
Just in time for the mid terms.
the libs are embarrassing themselves again
He's bent over backwards in a bathtub somewhere.
Hasn't this been debunked - as in her accounts were hacked and the FBI are now involved ?
No, come on, that's laughable
Either she and MSNBC are lying or she was hacked. The FBI are definitely involved.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/26/media/joy-reid-hacking-fbi-investigation/index.html
She's obviously lying. Her cybersecurity "expert" is a loony who locked his twitter account because people were find stuff he posted. The wayback machine has records of the posts when they happened. She alleging that "hackers" went into her blog / the internet archive service and planted posts that were very similar to posts she already made and already apologized for.
It's insane. Her posts were shitty but not out of line with what lots of libs were saying at the time. She could have just apologized and said her views evolved and no one would care. But she's a journalist and she lied, which is no bueno. I dont want her to get fired because in this country being able to see a doctor is strongly dependent on your employment status but it's not a good situation for her and its especially embarrassing for the above libs to float conspiracy theories and hacking stuff and fake news without irony.
"I emailed noreply@fbi.gov, they should get back to me any day now"
If she actually wrote those things then she should've just fessed up. If she's lying about all of this then her career is fecked.
I stand with Joy . Like her as a journalist and should not lose her job over this.
do you think its okay for journalists to lie to the public
If she's lying about getting hacked then she should be sacked.
If she is lying .I'll be more concerned that the lengths she had to go to for something she allegedly wrote in 2000
More like the mid to late 2000s. The actual substance of what she said at the time is secondary, since far more people were not on the LGBT bandwagon yet at that time. If however she in the present fabricated that she had been hacked in order to cover up and obscure her culpability for the original indiscretion then she should be sacked.
Considering when it was, it would have been perfectly commendable of her to say that she regrets the ignorance of her past views and is greatful to those in her life that have re-educated her. She also hopes she can inspire others to do the same.
People are being way to easy on Reid, if she did write that stuff(The hacking reasoning some laughable bad)then yeah of course she should get the sack.
The ''who is secretly gay'' stuff is stupid and well sad but this stuff is far right bigotry.
The ''who is secretly gay'' stuff is stupid and well sad but this stuff is far right bigotry.
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That might even be true. But people are often to stupid to do just this. Especially when you have sat on such a high horse as she has done, it seems difficult to admit.
That’s every bit as bad as any of the adverts the Russians and Cambridge Analytica were pushing on Clinton. Same tactics.
Wouldn't surprise me if the Russians are in someway linked to the creation of some of these billboards.
Looks like Joy Reid has been lying.
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That should be the Democrat's slogan from here on till 2020. That's about as hard as anyone on the left has gone until now.
Dick Spencer is broke.
Hey Wolf, nice 1-line explanation of military-industrial complex
War is money.Who would have thought.
Clearly you don't watch Wolf enough. He's just asking questions from the other side of the spectrum. He does it all the time and it's what makes him a good journalist
Indeed. Seems they cut and pasted a short decontextualized exchange for propaganda purposes.
It's a sociopathic question to ask.
When you're interviewing a known anti-interventionist, its generally good to question from the opposing side of their views.
There are less sociopathic ways than, "what about the defense contractors losing revenue? does that matter less to you than civilians losing lives?"
Perfectly legitimate question given that Paul's constituents may be affected by defense cutbacks.