US Politics

Watched interviews with Jeff Flake and John Kasich on CNN over the weekend. They give me hope Bipartisan politics is possible in teh future. Not all GOP'ers are complete cnuts.

Unfortunately those two have no future in Republican politics. Flake obviously doesn't which is why he is not running again, as he would get trounced by a more right leaning R in Arizona. Kasich will be stuck in the Ohio Governorship with no hope for national office. As long as the power structure of the Rs is being run by the Trump cabal, Fox News, and Breitbart - bipartisan type centrists will be out in the cold.
 
Perfect scenario would be a devastating defeat for the GOP this fall followed by total frustration for the GOP and Trump trying to get stuff done for two years. Then a devastating defeat in 2020 for Trump quickly followed by a few years wearing an orange jump suit.
 
Bernie is left even for European standards. Not far left (like for example Hollande in France was), but still left. Obama and Clintons, in Europe would have been considered centrists. Bill Clinton maybe even center-right. Even moderate GOP people like Bush, Romney or Kasich, would have been considered in Europe far right, with the likes of Trump, Cruz and co. unconstitutional/fascists. It is amazing how different the cultures are, despite that both are part of the Western world.

It's more worrisome for me that many of my fellow Americans can't comprehend fascism despite voting for it (Cruz, Trump, Santorum). Yet they think Hillary and Obama were communist fascist socialists all rolled into one.
 
Another retirement, longtime GOP senator (and confederation admirer, but I repeat myself) from MS.
 


That would be a huge upset. GOP were confident they would hold on to the seat, but they've been getting a bit worried in recent days.

Could be that their internal polling is also showing that Saccone is behind.
 
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Did I hear someone say they could do with obsessively tracking some early primaries in a state that has been solid red for a few decades?

You are in luck. Texas has voted! Follow results here - https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/texas-primary-election

Saying that, it genuinely blows me away to see how many people vote in these primaries. 500,000 counted in the Dem primary so far and lots more to come in.
 
Did I hear someone say they could do with obsessively tracking some early primaries in a state that has been solid red for a few decades?

You are in luck. Texas has voted! Follow results here - https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/texas-primary-election

Saying that, it genuinely blows me away to see how many people vote in these primaries. 500,000 counted in the Dem primary so far and lots more to come in.

The turnout figures from this page convince me that o'Rourke does not have a chance; the GOP base seems as energetic as ever even with mostly noncompetitive primaries.
 
The turnout figures from this page convince me that o'Rourke does not have a chance; the GOP base seems as energetic as ever even with mostly noncompetitive primaries.
Yup, seems that way. Texas is always juuust that bit beyond the horizon.
 
Joe Scarborough and Lyin' Ted Cruz getting into a handbags over gun control this morning

3:00 onwards

 
It would help if the politicians making the decisions actually knew what they are talking about when it comes to firearms.

The fundamental problem is politicians like Lyin' Ted continuously framing the argument that further regulations would limit the rights of law abiding citizens, as opposed to looking at the big picture view that assault weapon style rifles are not necessary for hunting or self-protection. They're just instruments of death.
 
That's the entire point. Government issued shouldn't be the only standard of ID.


I don't think that was the point of the tweet at all. It was trying to suggest the gun lobby has more influence. A CWP is a government issued ID. It is actually better than a DL for ID purposes. A student ID has limited information on it.
 
I don't think that was the point of the tweet at all. It was trying to suggest the gun lobby has more influence. A CWP is a government issued ID. It is actually better than a DL for ID purposes. A student ID has limited information on it.

Yes I get that argument, but for the sake of the entire voter ID debate, it shouldn't matter whether it is government issued or not.
 
Its still not the same level of ID as a CWP. It has a lot more info that the average student ID. Off the top of my head it has address, name, DOB, race, sex. What does the typical student ID have? a name and ?
That’s not the point. If it’s issued by a government funded school, it’s issued by the government.
 
How do you figure out if the person voting is a citizen or not ?

Well i don't know about the USA but student ID has to be applied for and questions have to be answered to qualify and the ID my son has has his nationality on it. Simple really.
 
Student ID should be acceptable for voting..It's a valid form of ID here in the UK.

Well its not the UK. Student/Employment IDs are usually secondary forms of ID. They don't have things like addresses, DOB and sex on them usually.

That aside the discussion was started by a tweet trying to imply the gun lobby have influence because a CWP is a primary ID and a student ID isn't. A CWP is probably one of the most reliable IDs available because obtaining one involves a full background check.
 
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Well i don't know about the USA but student ID has to be applied for and questions have to be answered to qualify and the ID my son has has his nationality on it. Simple really.

Not much info on a student ID over here:

Student ID
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Yeah I kinda side with Mike on this, it's a correlation rather than causation thing.

The two real issues are the fact that there are such things as concealed weapon permits, and the need of photo ID to vote in the first place.