However they may want to try and dress it up; any person voting for Boebert is an idiot.
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However they may want to try and dress it up; any person voting for Boebert is an idiot.
In my book anyone voting for any MAGA candidate is more than an idiot
Why are MGT and Gaetz opposing McCarthy (and Trump)?
MTG is not, she’s so far up McCarthy’s ass the G should be a B.
They are fascists.
I am knowingly disgusted with myself due to this, but there is something sexy about Elise Stefanik.
This Gallagher fella looks to have a future in American politics.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Only listening to it, but I am impressed with his oratory skills.
Which will all implode when McCarthy doesn't become speaker and the person who does doesn't honor McCarthy's drug deal committee assignment promise to her.
Looks like a similar result on the vote. All the 20 nutjobs are likely to vote for the latest anti-McCarthy.
Now that's a good question. Personally, they're set to make big power grabs in terms of committees and general influence. McCarthy has already conceded a lot. Ideologically... well, the same. They're also making a name for themselves, putting themselves at the centre of events. It seems hard for them to lose. If McCarthy wins, it's because he basically caved to their demands. If a more extreme candidate wins, that's obviously good for them. If enough Republicans become embarrassed enough to support a democrat, then that's a lot of ammunition for them to use. They don't care about the well-being of the Republican Party, which is why I'm enjoying this so much.
I'm assuming.
Like how and why did it go from Jim Jordan to this Donalds guy 
I don't understand the game
I don't understand the game
They are more accurately a motley crew of for profit grifters (Boebert/Gaetz et al) who fundraise by being provocative coupled with ultra conservative ideologues (like Gosart/Biggs etc) who legitimately believe in the right wing cause.
Mccarthy just eating those Ls.
Like how and why did it go from Jim Jordan to this Donalds guy
I don't understand the game
Even more hilarious is the idea of right wingers attempting to play the diversity card to advance the right wing cause.
No idea who this Donalds guy is. But he seems to be the new spoiler, McCarthy about to (very slowly) lose the 4th vote
I think the winning combination for speaker may be to nominate Scalise but provide the same promises that McCarthy made. Its obvious they will never vote for McCarthy because they genuinely don't like him.
Can't wait til the next Trump truth now that his full fledged endorsement meant feck all to the rebels.
That could be an interesting proposition.
Yep, McCarthy needs to get his shit out of the Speaker's office tout de suite.
Imagine the fight that will ensue over raising the debt ceiling. They can't even get speaker elected.
if they don't get a Speaker elected there won't be a fight, nothing happens until then - literally nothing
Thanks, both of you. I suppose it makes sense for them to take that position and then just obstruct until they get their will. Whatever it may be.
Raoul, when you say “for profit grifters”, do you mean that they profit privately through donations or is it their campaigns?
It will be interesting to see what Trump says next, he's told them at least twice publicly to vote for McCarthy and they haven't paid any attention, in Republican circles that usually provokes something
Actually in stitches, brilliant that
Much like their master Donald Trump, they say and do provocative things on social media to elicit donations from their constituents. Obviously most politicians get donations but this is more or less a grift for right wingers because they have zero interest in actually governing. Therefore it ends up little more than a self-preservation money making scheme.
Genuine question: what's the incentive for Dems to support any Republican speaker? The longer this goes on the worse it looks for Republicans. If Republicans can't sort it out, maybe a handful of them would be willing to support a Democrat.
Boebert is a really poor speaker. Amazing. Really fantastic. She also takes a pause between every other word or phrase, like she's making it up as she speaking.
A pre-negotiated deal to exclude the likes of Gym Jordan and other pro-investigate the Dems agitators from getting committee lead positions in the next Congress. A Dem friendly Republican would be far preferable to someone who allows the Freedom Caucus to railroad them into right wing positions on everything.
The trouble makers
What’s to stop them ignoring those deals after elected?
I'm sure the Dems can find a way to codify it into a procedure or written agreement that can't be broken.
Why do they waste all this time voting again when nothing has changed.
Thanks
Can elected lawmakers really be bound by any such written agreement?