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I’m not seeing many House Democratic leader names in that article that have actually come forward with their own opinion. They’re the ones who are having to deal with the complaints but it really does seem more like the article is trying to frame the narrative that Omar is being rebuked by house dem leaders when there doesn’t seem to be much evidence of that?
It’s their job to deal with these types of issues after all.
Pelosi ? Who views are to the right when it comes to Israel. And also considering last time they forced Omar to apologise for saying Israel lobbies in the Unites States. I think the framing of the article is completely fair.
Plus its Politico which is pretty standard centre news site.
Pelosi hasn't made any comment on this incident as far as I can see. Her name was mentioned multiple times because she's one of the key Dem leaders who will have to review the case.
Can you find any quotes on her stance on the comments in question by Omar?
I don't know what else to say. Given the views of the top democrats and really the democratic party as a whole, its clear that on Wednesday they will completely screw over Omar.
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Hoyer is #2 and there are 2 chairpersons of major committees.
what a stupid country
You break it, you buy it. No returns.
@2cents I concede the point from the other thread because I dont know enough about British politics or European politics to dispute what you've said. I do think that the anti semitism accusation is used as weapon against political enemies in the US and not in good faith.
The way that the merest hint of dissent against Israel has been attacked like a drone swarm, repeatedly twisting fairly benevolent comments into accusations of anti-semitism, in both the UK and US recently has been remarkable. Say what you like about the Israel lobby, they're nothing if not well-organised.
In my opinion, it's like this. If there was to be even a small shift of opinion in the US towards the Palestinian view, and a president in office like a Sanders willing to pressure Israel, then it may have no choice but to agree to peace along the lines of the long-standing international consensus. For the Israelis, this cannot happen. So they are merciless about stamping it out.
In my opinion, it's like this. If there was to be even a small shift of opinion in the US towards the Palestinian view, and a president in office like a Sanders willing to pressure Israel, then it may have no choice but to agree to peace along the lines of the long-standing international consensus. For the Israelis, this cannot happen. So they are merciless about stamping it out.
The only way forward for Democrats is to pack the Supreme Court with Liberal judges.
Increase the number by four to ensure we overturn every conservative ruling.
Increase the number by four to ensure we overturn every conservative ruling.
Interesting article from 3 months ago
Saudi Arabia Declares War on America’s Muslim Congresswomen
Gulf Arab monarchies are using racism, bigotry, and fake news to denounce Washington's newest history-making politicians.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/11/saudi-arabia-declares-war-on-americas-muslim-congresswomen/
Saudi Arabia Declares War on America’s Muslim Congresswomen
Gulf Arab monarchies are using racism, bigotry, and fake news to denounce Washington's newest history-making politicians.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/11/saudi-arabia-declares-war-on-americas-muslim-congresswomen/
Probably apt to repost this opinion piece in this thread (had done so in another two weeks ago).
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/whe...-anti-semitism-jews-are-caught-in-the-middle/
It gets a good chunk of the essentials about the Omar case right, imo.
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/whe...-anti-semitism-jews-are-caught-in-the-middle/
It gets a good chunk of the essentials about the Omar case right, imo.
Pelosi Betrays Ilhan Omar
Great article. It may be specific to Omar case but explains really well the conflict within left when it comes to dealing with contrarian opinions within their umbrella.
I can't take anyone serious who equates support for boycotting Israel (until significant progress is seen with the conflict), with believing that Israel doesn't have a right to exist within a 2 state solution or equivalent where both Israelis and Palestinians can both live in peace and not in an open prison. Insinuating that Omar has connections to Hitler, or wants to see Israel wiped off the map
And I'm seeing enough of this nonsense in op-eds and articles. Idiots.
And I'm seeing enough of this nonsense in op-eds and articles. Idiots.
Well said
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It does address that, but it's not my primary takeaway, tbh. (But perhaps that's not what you wanted to say anyway; in that case, just forget my remark.)
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I feel positively happy that Trump voters are doing badly, serves them right.
He should be blaming his neighbors in his state, the fact is anything Trump caused happening in any red state gets no sympathy because people deserve exactly what they voted for.
The blue states deserve all the help they can get from the world.
Pathetic.
So...the substantial portions of several Red states that voted Blue don't deserve any sympathy? What?!
Why do you always make such ignorant and disgusting statements? Do you honestly not think before you post? Or are you just on the wum all the time? Your post above and the Brexit post are truly despicable posts tbh and I would be banned if I responded how I would if you said those in person.
Literally the most illogical and dumb statement I have ever read on this website.
And the thing is, Hillary Clinton wouldnt have saved the plant either. Cal is just an elitist who revels in bad things happening to poor people halfway around the world.
I’ve tried to give you a wide berth and not waste each other’s time for a while. The fact you felt the need to do a deep dive into my posts seem to indicate some kind of unhealthy obsession.
We are never going to agree on anything, and you’ll only resort to pointless posts like the short one above.
Im enjoying the result last night too much...
We are never going to agree on anything, and you’ll only resort to pointless posts like the short one above.
Im enjoying the result last night too much...
As a Brit, I don’t expect any sympathy for the majority of my countrymen voting for Brexit. Why should Americans in red states expect sympathy for Trump policies?
It seems there are people around who prefer to ‘show sympathy’ for everything and pretend the world is a great, caring place. It’s no different from ‘thoughts and prayers’.
The fact is, as a Brit I don’t think any of us deserve any sympathy for Brexit, likewise the red states deserve no sympathy for Trump policies. You reap what you (as a state/country) sow.
There’s a fundamental difference between indifference and reveling at something.
Automation was always going to end a lot of careers, I myself work in one of those. Instead of hoping for sympathy, one should be trying to position oneself for transition out of the role or invest wisely for retirement.
Feck me, do you want a new shovel? You're doubling down on your own ignorant statements. You are talking about real people's lives being destroyed. People losing their livelihoods, their homes, not affording to eat and you're dismissing it all in such a disgusting yet exceptionally ignorant, childish and naive manner.
Your posts sound like they are being written by a very flippant and not very bright teenager. The disdain you are showing is almost bordering on sociopathic.