I have often wondered what he does for a living to feel such extreme bitterness. 
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I have often wondered what he does for a living to feel such extreme bitterness. Yeah I'm curious too.
Lives in America and pays attention to what's happening around him?
Come on gentlemen. The "War on Poverty" didn't mean actually going to war against poor people. Metaphor mates
Remind me of that Carlin bit, if crimefighters fight crimes and firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?Come on gentlemen. The "War on Poverty" didn't mean actually going to war against poor people. Metaphor mates
The US is not the only place with inequality, in fact the Gini coefficient is much higher in many other places.
I like that one
Everyone knows Europe is better than the US in this regard
The US is nowhere near the worst in terms of income inequality.
Depends on your point of reference. Compared to say, Namibia or Honduras, the US doesn't look too bad. Don't start looking at *any* other western nation, though...
You can’t see it, but Hong Kong is much much worse. The highest Gini coefficient for developed nations.
Also the figure is slightly distorted by the US having most of the richest people on the planet. But the reality is that wether Bezos is worth 50B or 200B, it makes little difference to anyone else.
the Democrats will not save us
Well, he did liberate Iraq and Afghanistan....
Maybe they should give one to Nixon too. He created a lot of veterans.
If all billionaires were worth a fourth of what they are, it would probably be a big difference.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1050153885803929602
So glad he had due process and presumption of innocence.
If the party hadn't spent 2 years publicising the michelle-w bromance, this could be a sinple repetitive attack in the primaries.
Attacks on Dubya generally don’t resonate outside the far left of in the US. Best to instead focus on issues that tangibly matter like Beto and Bernie do. That sort of approach resonates with people in search of progress.
He'll pivot soon no need to worry....
It doesn't make sense to compare the the richest country in the world with the poorest ones though. You have to compare the US with the other relatively rich countries for any sort of viable comparison (West Europe, Canada, Japan,etc).
indeed.
The fact that only the left cares about war criminals is an indictment of the libs
Indeed, but for Trump in 2015 they worked in the GOP base, like the attacks on McCain. And they worked very well in 2006&08, for Dems and independents, when people knew what he was.
They've totally dried up post-2016 when HRC used Bush-era GOP leaders and the media celebrated the slightest equivocation from the Bush family to push the message that Trump was an abberation from "normal Republicans" as represented by Bush.
The result is as depressing as it was predictable.
Look at the sharp climb post 2015 - that is driven by non-Republicans, as shown here:
Right on cue
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...le-obama-george-w-bush-is-my-partner-in-crime
Partner-in-crime is a lot more literal than she thinks.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...le-obama-george-w-bush-is-my-partner-in-crime
Partner-in-crime is a lot more literal than she thinks.
Reminder:
George W. Bush made several calls reassuring Collins about Kavanaugh
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/kavanaugh-vote-george-w-bush-susan-collins/index.html
George W. Bush made several calls reassuring Collins about Kavanaugh
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/kavanaugh-vote-george-w-bush-susan-collins/index.html
I still don't understand why Dems just can't unite behind Sanders. If it is a monumental election, then surely Kamala Harris, Booker and every other politician with ambition can hold their dicks for a while and put on an united front and nominate a candidate who has the best chance of attracting independents. Desperate time calls for desperate measures. Instead of primary, go on a unity tour, if voter restrictions are placed, spend the time between now and 2020, spend money on getting the required voter id's etc etc. feck sake
Its still an establishment vs progressive issue within the Dem party. There are a good number of Dems within the party hierarchy who think going progressive will be too risky for down ballot congressional candidates.
Well they had their chance in 2016 and it's time for the progressives to have their shot. IMHO of course
Briefly - major Dem donors would not tolerate it, especially if it happened without a fight. Also no evidence that Pelosi, Schumer etc like Bernie's agenda at all.
True...although in fairness to the cause, the Dem party hasn't done a particularly effective job of selling progressive policies to the public over the past couple of years. On single payer healthcare for instance, Perez has been tap dancing around it by trying to pretend the party can accommodate many views and single payer is one of them. Instead, he should've simply said "we support single payer". But he was scared because he thought the GOP would use that to fear monger their way to retaining the house next month. The Dems will at some point need to shift from "we don't want to give the Republicans ammunition to use against us" to "we have a grand bargain for Americans which includes wages people can live on, universal healthcare, free state level tuition etc".
At exactly what point of getting unwillingly taken up the ass do you think it appropriate to complain?
Indeed, but for Trump in 2015 they worked in the GOP base, like the attacks on McCain. And they worked very well in 2006&08, for Dems and independents, when people knew what he was.
They've totally dried up post-2016 when HRC used Bush-era GOP leaders and the media celebrated the slightest equivocation from the Bush family to push the message that Trump was an abberation from "normal Republicans" as represented by Bush.
The result is as depressing as it was predictable.
Look at the sharp climb post 2015 - that is driven by non-Republicans, as shown here:
feck me, 41% of Democrats view george bush favorably. The Democrats are a right wing party.
Oh, definitely. Our major parties are one center right and one far right.
As I've pointed out, Hong Kong has a much much higher coefficient.
Anyway, I'm not saying Americans shouldn't complain, just that it's even worse for others.
''I'm Joe Biden and I indorse this message''
The Ds are ok with losing while they shout if they go low, we go high shit and feel good themselves about it.
Hong Kong is such an individually unique situation and history I don't think you can really compare it to anything else. The other issues when looking at the US inequality is not just the raw numbers but the trend that is still ongoing.
Always worth saying that during the last UK election Obama staffers went to work for the Conservative Party and Obama phoned Conservative Leader May a few hours before the exit polling to congratulating her on beating the labour party(Which turned out to be wrong).
It’s not a good look if you have to compare the US to a third world country to make your point.
This seems to have got completely sidetracked, I do NOT think the current wealth inequality in the US is good at all, especially compared to other developed countries.
However, my original point was:
I think we can all agree western Europe has a much better situation regarding wealth inequality, in particular Scandinavia.
However, Sweden has about 3% of the population of USA, yet has more than 5% the number of billionaires of the US.
People still get rich under supposedly much fairer systems, the fact some people get ultra rich is not the underlying cause of wealth inequality.