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Revan said:
I guess that the logic is that if senators vote against everything Trump, then it might make people who are mainly Republican voters but who can vote Democrat to go full partisan. People can be easily trigged to go 'us vs them'.
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And if they vote for Trump’s nominees in what is the most politicized judicial appointment in the land, you can be sure that plenty of people who would vote Democrat will be triggered to stay home.

Republicans flat out refused to even entertain the thought of Garland, who they like, being appointed by Obama. There was no blowback, and they are rewarded with the WH on top of that. Democrats should learn that their constituents put more stock on them fighting their corner rather than appeasing the other side out of some misguided notion of being the bigger man. That strategy doesn’t work, 1000 lost seats in the country since Obama was elected and Donald Trump in the WH are the proofs.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
And if they vote for Trump’s nominees in what is the most politicized judicial appointment in the land, you can be sure that plenty of people who would vote Democrat will be triggered to stay home.

Republicans flat out refused to even entertain the thought of Garland, who they like, being appointed by Obama. There was no blowback, and they are rewarded with the WH on top of that. Democrats should learn that their constituents put more stock on them fighting their corner rather than appeasing the other side out of some misguided notion of being the bigger man. That strategy doesn’t work, 1000 lost seats in the country since Obama was elected and Donald Trump in the WH are the proofs.
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Not sure that the 'us vs them' strategy actually works for Dems as well as for GOP though. Democrats are good at getting the left wing votes and the reasonable middle while GOP are good at mobilising their base with 'us vs the world' strategy. I don't think that Democrats should play the same game as Republicans, hard to defeat GOP on their own game.
 
Revan said:
Not sure that the 'us vs them' strategy actually works for Dems as well as for GOP though. Democrats are good at getting the left wing votes and the reasonable middle while GOP are good at mobilising their base with 'us vs the world' strategy. I don't think that Democrats should play the same game as Republicans, hard to defeat GOP on their own game.
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They sucks at getting the left wing votes.

One of the reasons they routinely lose all elections not in presidential year is that they cant mobilize their base. If you routinely capitulate to the right in every issue, how can the people who are affected the most by the right's policies be energized to go out and vote for you?
 
Rado_N said:
So the majority of California didn't vote? I find that hard to believe.
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In fairness that's not what the map is saying since population density is differing quite a bit between districts.
 
Javi said:
In fairness that's not what the map is saying since population density is differing quite a bit between districts.
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It's showing (suggesting) that the vast majority of districts (all but maybe 5?) had the majority of voters not cast a ballot. It's clearly not accurate.
 
Rado_N said:
But he's not talking about eligible voters, it's based on population which includes enormous amounts of people ineligible to vote.
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I dont think he is. I think you've misunderstood the exchange in the tweet you posted. By population I contend he means eligible population as opposed to registered voters.

Plus it's not even his map. If you look in the comments you can see he links the data which comes from the guardian and census data.
 
Eboue said:
I dont think he is. I think you've misunderstood the exchange in the tweet you posted. By population I contend he means eligible population as opposed to registered voters.

Plus it's not even his map. If you look in the comments you can see he links the data which comes from the guardian and census data.
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He explicitly states that it's using population and that it doesn't adjust for immigration populations who are not eligible to vote.
 
Rado_N said:
He explicitly states that it's using population and that it doesn't adjust for immigration populations who are not eligible to vote.
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He said he didnt think so. But as I mentioned it's not his map. When I have more time I will pull a couple of sample counties using the data in the links to check it out. But even if it does, it is useful to show how low engagement in government is for most people.
 
Eboue said:
He said he didnt think so. But as I mentioned it's not his map. When I have more time I will pull a couple of sample counties using the data in the links to check it out. But even if it does, it is useful to show how low engagement in government is for most people.
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Okay but we still have to be clear what it represents.
 
http://thehill.com/homenews/399499-...child-to-build-the-wall-with-blocks-in-new-ad

Florida GOP candidate teaches child to ‘build the wall’ with blocks in new ad

Florida gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis (R) released a campaign advertisement on Monday in which he shows his support for President Trump by teaching his child to "build the wall" with blocks.

"Everyone knows my husband Ron DeSantis is endorsed by President Trump," DeSantis's wife, Casey, says to open the ad. "But he’s also an amazing dad. Ron loves playin' with the kids."



The clip then features Ron DeSantis saying "build the wall" as his child places blocks atop one another. The candidate also reads "The Art of The Deal" to a child and teaches another how to talk by saying "Make America Great Again."
"People say Ron is all Trump, but he is so much more, I just thought you should know," Casey DeSantis says as the advertisement ends.
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Cal? said:
Is there anything Trump’s done that’s good?
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Late response, but one would argue the economic picture isn't exactly bad. Would be easy to turn the question around and say what is bad, and I don't mean from an pure ideology point of view or his tweets. Because of all the racist claims are non-whites worse off, are woman worse off. Did dropping out of Iran, Paris accord make things worse. There is a lot of noise from the resist, as with Obama, but is life really that shit.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Late response, but one would argue the economic picture isn't exactly bad. Would be easy to turn the question around and say what is bad, and I don't mean from an pure ideology point of view or his tweets. Because of all the racist claims are non-whites worse off, are woman worse off. Did dropping out of Iran, Paris accord make things worse. There is a lot of noise from the resist, as with Obama, but is life really that shit.
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Just because he hasn't managed to ruin life as we know it doesn't mean he's done anything right.

Dropping out of Paris will have serious repercussions in the future, it's already ridiculously hot in many parts of the world this summer.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Late response, but one would argue the economic picture isn't exactly bad. Would be easy to turn the question around and say what is bad, and I don't mean from an pure ideology point of view or his tweets. Because of all the racist claims are non-whites worse off, are woman worse off. Did dropping out of Iran, Paris accord make things worse. There is a lot of noise from the resist, as with Obama, but is life really that shit.
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Sounds like you're throwing a lot of feces against the wall in the hopes that some of it sticks. These are all completely different issues that have to be evaluated on their own merits. The Iran and Paris deals for example, have nothing to do with one another and have completely different outcomes - one on foreign policy and the other on environmental policy. The stock market is doing great, I'll give you that, but it was in pretty good shape when he took the baton from Obama.
 
Good on them. But the Republicans are trying to destroy Unions and workers rights.
 
Glenn Jacobs (Kane) from WWE is elected as mayor of Knoxville TN.

Fun fact UT Knoxville was one of my college options as they offered me a tuition grant, me and my grandad went there for a campus visit and the first thing we saw was a preacher shouting on the campus that all the debauchers were going to hell. Needless to say the bible belt lived up to its name.
 
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