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Whenever anyone asks about how they pay for medicare for all, they should just say that it's actually cheaper than the current system:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...th-care/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.49ac8c2a8654
Wow! Good work Charlie Baker! A Republican doing the right thing? Damn!
*jerking off motion*
Ah, the long game, totally unlike the lifetime appointees of the Supreme Court.
Smart move by Schumer. He knows he can't stop the nomination and that Heidtkamp, McCaskill, Donnelly, Manchin, and Bill Nelson are locked in tight Senate races in states Trump won. Therefore if the Dems are to have any chance retaking the Senate, these candidates are going to have to moderate their positions to connect with local voters.
Do local voters give a toss about supreme court nominations? Or is there a recent case where a party has belligerently refused to allow a supreme court nominee to pass the senate before upcoming elections, and gone on to completely avoid any kind of voter blowback?
Yeah I don't actually think that is what is most important to those voters. The people that care about nominations are already solidly voting one way or the other. Its more the bread and circus issues I think that will move the types of state specific voters.
Here is another interesting survey.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_jul28
Bear in mind that Rasmussen is a notoriously GOP leaning pollster so the framing of the questions and the methodology may not be as neutral as the other prominent polling comapnies
niceLike the White House questionnaires that are followed by a link to donate to the Trump Campaign.
Which of the following is most true:
1. Trump is a tremendous person making America great again.
2. Obama is the worst President EVER.
3. Crooked Hillary should be in jail.
Even so in the survey, it shows that republican voters think less of their party than they do over Trump's direction. It also shows that democrat voters see everything as negative, probably because of Trump's rhetoric. Almost if anything is good it is despite him, if it is bad because of him. Both sets of voters living in their own little world's.
Is there anything Trump’s done that’s good?
Stock market.
For the Republicans and even a number of corporate Democrats the tax cuts will be seen as good. NK is still something that can be sold to some as a positive. Those two will be enough unless the Dems have a strong candidate pairing and a strong unified message that a majority of the population will get behind (such as medicare for all) - with the caveat that major events can change that equation of course.
I’m not sure he’s done that, the economy was doing just fine in Obama’s final year.
His trade war is more than likely going to lead to a drop sooner or later
I still agree with Maher regarding that issue.
As much as I'd love to not give him credit, it was his economic plan that he ran on that the market immediately started pricing in the moment he won the election. It banked on his proposed policies of repatriating billions in offshore capital back into the US system, deregulating, reducing taxes etc. It was doing well under Obama and it has done even better under Trump (although the past few months have been wobbly).
Fair enough, I still think his trade war will undo it.
I don't listen to nor like that guy so feel free to give me your own opinion which I will respect much more anyway.
I hope the inevitable recession comes before the next election cycle to give the Dem candidate a better chance.
Some people here think I’m the devil for saying that
It is an odd position to take since a strong economy generally benefits more people, which is the ultimate goal of winning the elections in the first place.
Considering you are in HK, I can understand why you would not attract positive feelings. Big difference between a foreign investor just having disposable money exposed and actually being a working class/poor person where recession can mean decisions between food and medicine. If you can't see how comments from a foreign investor whose only skin in the game is investment income can come off as really crass and demeaning to a poor person then I believe you should try to understand that better.
Personally I disagree with that entire thought process anyway. I never hope for economic events just for some potential political advantage because it might even backfire on you. Just seem a really counter-productive thing to hope for. Is that what Maher hopes for?
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Whilst that’s true, the economy does not grow forever, a recession will come sooner or later. Putting it off (if poss) doesn’t mean the economy will be better in the long run.
That's true, but its always good to win on the strength of your ideas as opposed to hoping the economy tanks.
A US recession most likely will mean a global recession anyway. But ultimately I agree with your point that it will just affect my investment and not my living standard too much.
Maher has done 2 monologues on it and I agree with most of it, but then I liked him even before Trump for his anti-religion views anyway
Definitely, but every bit helps to rid the world of Trump.
If global temperature slows by even 0.1c, it’d be worth it
I've disliked Maher since the 1990s for many reasons - which I won't get into now. I'm going to enjoy my weekend and Sócrates and Cruyff and don't want to talk Maher anymore
Sure, have a good weekend, it’s already Sunday morning here.I've disliked Maher since the 1990s for many reasons - which I won't get into now. I'm going to enjoy my weekend and Sócrates and Cruyff and don't want to talk Maher anymore
Lyin' Ted
I guess that the logic is that if senators vote against everything Trump, then it might make people who are mainly Republican voters but who can vote Democrat to go full partisan. People can be easily trigged to go 'us vs them'.