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That is an astute observation. The last sentence in particular is very underplayed when it comes to Di Maria and a lot of times, we as fans demand mechanically consistent performances (to justify the price tag) without putting the human element of physical and mental exhaustion of playing long calender years into perspective.

As an example, Patrice Evra was considered the iron man of United in the sense that played almost every game without breaking down. If we take a sample of four seasons at any point during his career, the highest number of club matches he has played during that duration is 195 from 2007-2011. Di Maria has played almost as many matches as Evra from 2010-2014 at 189.

Last season was especially brutal for him with 52 total appearances for Madrid including long Copa and Champions League runs on top of World Cup qualifying matches, friendlies and the tournament finals in Brazil. That works out to about one match in less than 5 days for the whole football season which on top of travelling, training, preparation is a lot when we factor in the piled up fatigue for a player who has a very high workrate playing style and always gives 100% every single game.

Plus, like you said he is transitioning to a more physically demanding league, new culture, the whole burglary shenanigans, new team-mates (which affects his rhythm) without an adequate recovery period. It's a lot to deal with and Di Maria has done quite well all things considered. I think the best plan for him going forward should include an extended summer break instead of again parading him in the pre-season marketing exercise. Then we'll see a more focused and rejuvenated Di Maria IMO.

Good post.
 
Those sticking up for Di Maria are doing so due to reputation, not performances at United.
 
Passing technique, strength and mentality.

As Mitchell says, he's living off his reputation.

You are making him sound like some 30+ year old winger, who is well past it.

He was always very good and productive for Madrid and then had an absolute storming season when Ancelloti moved him to the midfield. He struggled in a new league and under a new manager but who didn't? Still managed to produced more assists than anyone in our team, and lesser than only couple of players in the entire league.

The hope is that, if he stays, he feels settled and can rediscover his form.

Saying that he isn't 'good enough' or 'living off his reputation' is preposterous.
 
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I dont think Shaw has proven to be a better LB than Blind or Rojo. He has way more potential in that position than both of them combined, but to start at United as a full back, I think you have to do more than just defend and more with the ball (vs City, Chelsea, CP where the only matches I remember him having genuine attacking influence). Rojo and Blind link up with our wingers far better and if you play possession football this is key. With the central areas of the pitch so crowded, we need to utilize the space in the wider area's, with Shaw and Valencia we didnt really manage to do that last season.

I hope it were just the injuries, as he looked a lot more promising going forwards at Southampton.
 
I have no issues whatsoever with Rafael and Nani going. I feel both, for different reasons, weren't cut out for us anymore. I also find it amazing how many people on here say that either or both of these are their 'favourite players' at the club. I admire LvG and his ruthless streak with players; not many managers would have had the balls to completely overhaul the squad like he has done / is still in the process of doing.
 
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We're good for signings as long as we don't sell Di Maria and De Gea. Stick with Smalling/Jones as our first choice CBs, while Rojo/Evans/McNair/Carrick provide adequate cover. Up front, let Rooney lead the line and make Wilson his primary backup. If shit hits the fan and both of them get injured, Depay/Fellaini/Januzaj can fill in as emergency strikers.
 
We're good for signings as long as we don't sell Di Maria and De Gea. Stick with Smalling/Jones as our first choice CBs, while Rojo/Evans/McNair/Carrick provide adequate cover. Up front, let Rooney lead the line and make Wilson his primary backup. If shit hits the fan and both of them get injured, Depay/Fellaini/Januzaj can fill in as emergency strikers.

I'm with you about the CBs, less about the strikers.
 
Passing technique, strength and mentality.

As Mitchell says, he's living off his reputation.

If that's what you feel about a player who has given excellent performances for his country last season and was the MoM in the CL final a year back then there is no discussion to be had.

Passing technique isn't great for a CM but more than enough for a winger. Also, he is a risk taker and a creator so that's the game he plays. He likes running with the ball and tries a lot to play the killer pass so it is understood that he will lose the ball more than others. Strength and mentality is an issue for sure because the burglary at his house clearly affected him but that is something that he will surely improve on this season.
 
I dont think Shaw has proven to be a better LB than Blind or Rojo. He has way more potential in that position than both of them combined, but to start at United as a full back, I think you have to do more than just defend and more with the ball (vs City, Chelsea, CP where the only matches I remember him having genuine attacking influence). Rojo and Blind link up with our wingers far better and if you play possession football this is key. With the central areas of the pitch so crowded, we need to utilize the space in the wider area's, with Shaw and Valencia we didnt really manage to do that last season.

I hope it were just the injuries, as he looked a lot more promising going forwards at Southampton.

Rojo has had some absolute stinkers at LB. Not sure what you were watching.
 
If we can get close to what we paid for Di Maria, I would sell. He will not have an amazing season imho. And if i am right, his price will drop significantly.
 
A lot of bubbles will burst and expectations lowered after people watch Depay play for us.
Carrick will rack up more appearances then Schweinsteiger and will again be the most important player in our midfield.
Rojo will remain shit.
 
And those were? I think Rojo has even proved himself on international stage as a solid LB.

Look through the threadmarks. Leicester is the one game that immediately comes to mind. There's a couple of others as well.

Shaw was the best LB in the league before he joined us which is far more 'proven' than anything Blind or Rojo have done.
 
A lot of bubbles will burst and expectations lowered after people watch Depay play for us.
Carrick will rack up more appearances then Schweinsteiger and will again be the most important player in our midfield.
Rojo will remain shit.
Fitting nickname.
 
New Kagawa IMO.

Strange comparison, no? Di Maria is proven at the highest level. He stayed at Madrid and played regularly for four seasons, putting in some phenomenal performances against Barcelona. Kagawa hasn't done himself justice since leaving Dortmund and isn't proven at the highest level.
 
A lot of bubbles will burst and expectations lowered after people watch Depay play for us.
Carrick will rack up more appearances then Schweinsteiger and will again be the most important player in our midfield.
Rojo will remain shit.
I agree after they watch him play for us at the start of the season a lot will be disappointed. At the end of the season though he'll be the most important signing of this summer.
 
Strange comparison, no? Di Maria is proven at the highest level. He stayed at Madrid and played regularly for four seasons, putting in some phenomenal performances against Barcelona. Kagawa hasn't done himself justice since leaving Dortmund and isn't proven at the highest level.

You know what I mean when I say "next Kagawa".It's not about how proven they were, it's about how terrible they are/were in United shirt apart from some performances yet fans still defended and demanded the team to be "built around them".
 
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If that's what you feel about a player who has given excellent performances for his country last season and was the MoM in the CL final a year back then there is no discussion to be had.

Passing technique isn't great for a CM but more than enough for a winger. Also, he is a risk taker and a creator so that's the game he plays. He likes running with the ball and tries a lot to play the killer pass so it is understood that he will lose the ball more than others. Strength and mentality is an issue for sure because the burglary at his house clearly affected him but that is something that he will surely improve on this season.
@Dante said that Di Maria is living off his reputation, and you said the same thing in your post. People believe he will turn good because they remember his performances for Madrid last season and game vs Germany. Fact is though, he will never play in midfield for us, and we won’t suddenly turn into counter attacking team.

To be honest I have not seen much in Di Maria that makes me believe he will turn things around next season.

A lot of bubbles will burst and expectations lowered after people watch Depay play for us.
Yeah I think so too. I believe he’s got a lot of potential but I have my reservations about him.
 
You know what I mean when I say "next Kagawa".It's not about how proven they were, it's about how terrible they are/were in United shirt apart from some performances yet fans still defended and demanded the team to be "built around them".

True. And just like Kagawa people tend to blame anyone but Di Maria himself. Wrong position, Van Gaal's fault, shit teammates etc... However the big difference between the two is Kagawa was shit while Di Maria is an excellent player. I expect he'll snap out of his bad run and prove himself (if he does not feck off to Paris that is).
 
I will agree with @Dante , I'm a huge fan of Di Maria but I can't see him play at his best for us, I can't see him play like a '60m' player, personally I will be sad to see him go but I think that the right thing is to managed to sell him 60m-65m to PSG, and replace him with a '35m-40m' player. By that I mean that we should sign a player who suits our game and I will take someone who is 1 or 2 level belows Di Maria's reputation.
 
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