He's been excellent playing left-back for Argentina the past year.
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No he is not living off his reputation. He started off very strongly for us and racked up a lot of assists and some crucial goals. In parallel, he turned in good performances for this national team. After that he got injured and his house got burgled which somehow affected him psychologically. And then Young started putting in performances of his lifetime and kept him out of the team.
Coming into the EPL is never easy for South American players and hence it is fully justified that he gets another shot at it. He hasn't been able to justify his transfer fee yet or the wages he is on but surely he is not living off his reputation. That would be Steven Gerrard.
Controversial.
I really don't care what he does for Argentina. He wasn't bought to play LB and it's quite easy to understand why given some of his performances there for us.
£50mil for Sterling will turn out to be a good bit of business for City.
Fair enough, but surely our players performances at intenational level has to count for something.
Let's hope you are right. I personally do not share that sentiment.
A repeat of a lot of games from Eredvisie's last season are on one of the channels here, including PSV games, as a precursor to the live telecast of the league from next season. I fractured my ankle couple of weeks back and have had more time than usual to kill, so been watching parts of the PSV games to check this guy out, and he looks very raw. He has the pace and goals in him, but rest of his game needs a lot of fine tuning. He'll find it harder in this league against better and tighter defenses as he doesn't have the trickery in his arsenal to overcome that yet.
We should get acceptable fees for Young and Valence now while the public opinion of them is still decent, and bring in (a young right back and) another top wide forward.
Let's sign a whole new team!
I guess this is the thread for it but I'm already worried that integrating so many new players at once could derail our campaign. Very unusual for any club to sign so many first-teamers and immediately mount a serious title challenge. If we sign another striker and CB that will be five or six new players in our best XI. Too many IMHO.
Beggars belief that people want even more turnover. It would not end well.
I guess this is the thread for it but I'm already worried that integrating so many new players at once could derail our campaign. Very unusual for any club to sign so many first-teamers and immediately mount a serious title challenge. If we sign another striker and CB that will be five or six new players in our best XI. Too many IMHO.
Beggars belief that people want even more turnover. It would not end well.
I think Young/Valencia/Fellaini will now be squad members with our recent signings.
Klopp's next managerial adventure won't prove to be as successful as his previous one.
Yep, it annoys me that players like Young and Fellaini who had excellent seasons last year are still not accepted by some United fans. It proves that United fans are as fickle as any other Club.
James Wilson is completely overrated and will never be top class.
You mean the others who want rid of Di Maria after one poor season when he has had injury issues and that insane burglary attempt to worry about while he had to adjust to a new team/country/league does not prove that?
They had excellent seasons by their own standards. Basically, they were better than expected. The club, however, needs to do better to achieve its goals.
It's like O'Shea in 05/06. He was quite good as a CM in the second part of the season, with Giggs. But almost everyone agreed that we can't have John O'Shea as a first choice central midfielder if we want to win trophies. Young and Fellaini can be decent squad players on their day but we need better players than them in the first XI to get back where we can to be.
That's not being fickle. It's being impatient.
Indeed it does. In truth it was half a poor season
Which is where Schn/Sch and Depay come in. Still madness to drop them from our squad entirely.
Btw, being fickle would surely mean we kept changing our opinions on them with every game? If people stick to their guns and keep saying they're not good enough, that's the opposite of fickle.
They were our best outfield players at times, does that mean we should get rid of everyone who performed below the standards they set?
Nor is wanting the likes of Fellaini/Young out because the ones who want them out didn't want them here in the first place and have persistently maintained that. It is not like they are swinging between two widely differing views on the players.
I agree. Squad players are important though.
Opinions do change, at the start of the season everyone thought they were going to be sold, near the end of the season everyone was praising them. Now the season is about to start again they're suddenly not good enough.
Life is too short to dig through each specific post and check back through the history of the person who made that post to see whether they ever held a different opinion. The point being made was that it was fickle of United fans to suddenly want rid of three of our better performers in the season just gone. I agree.
Not denying that. Maybe people think it is the right time to cash in on someone like Young and Valencia who are past their prime and replace them with younger players who can bed in. I don't subscribe to that view because we need experience on our bench if we have to mount a challenge on all fronts.
But very few people want to get rid of them entirely. We're just saying that neither should be in the first XI. We're all well aware of their limitations I'm sure; we all know that the clubs we want to compete with, the clubs whose level we want to reach have much better players in those positions. That doesn't mean we need to sell them right away.
Life is indeed too short for that. However I don't think it is them being fickle. On the contrary I feel it is them being too stubborn to admit they had decent/good seasons and would be valuable back ups to our better players.Experience and a bit of consistency. We'll be dealing with enough change this season as it is. We've already lost most of the last team to win a title, would be crazy to drop two more of them unless we really have to. Especially when they've so recently shown themselves as capable and useful players.
Praising them for the performance of last season and thinking they're not good enough are not mutually exclusive viewpoints. They performed above expectations and contributed significantly to reaching the top four; they are not good enough to be starters if we want to challenge for major trophies.
That's a good theory too.
Of course they still have to fight for their places but at the moment both players are in the starting 11 (maybe not on paper) due to previous performances. Out of the signings we made last season only Herrera and Shaw could be considered guarantee starters when fit. Who would have thought that at the start of the season?
Do not disagree at all. We need these players to help settling down the ones who have joined us. Plus Young and Valencia know how to face the pressures of expectations and title run-ins. That will be really useful if we actually manage to bring it all together.
I don't think any of Fellaini, Young or Valencia will start our first league game. At least I'd be surprised if they do. I guess a lot will depend on what happens with Di Maria and whether or not he's still injured/at the club.
Just a bit of nitpicking: Young only experienced one title run-in when we were under any sort of pressure - and we promptly bottled that one. Not because of Young, obviously, just saying that he doesn't have a lot of experience in that regard.
I think Young might just be in his prime atm.
Experience doesn't always need a good outcome to be valuable.
We've actually signed players from 4 different leagues so far. If you add in Otamendi/Ramos and Cavani, that will be 6 players from 6 different leagues to integrate into our team! Not very easy at all. Wouldn't surprise me if me stumbled at the start like last season.
Carrick was downgrade on Keane and Schneiderlin will be upgrade again
What happens to Blind? I was not impressed by him overall. He is slow, weak and worse reader, passer than the rest. I mean, even Afro gives us something diff if we need it.
Possibly, a lot will depend on pre season but for me Young and Fellaini were two of our better players last season.
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