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I don't think he should be sacked, but I'm starting to really not like him. I found him very likeable up until the last 3-4 weeks.

I have no fecking clue what his supposed philosophy is. Seeing Blind suffer in a one-man midfield whilst we had 3 capable midfielders on the bench. Is that the philosophy?
 
I don't think he should be sacked, but I'm starting to really not like him. I found him very likeable up until the last 3-4 weeks.

I have no fecking clue what his supposed philosophy is. Seeing Blind suffer in a one-man midfield whilst we had 3 capable midfielders on the bench. Is that the philosophy?

Agreed with this.

His constant comments on other teams playing 'long ball' is starting to grate too, considering the football we're playing.
 
Agreed with this.

His constant comments on other teams playing 'long ball' is starting to grate too, considering the football we're playing.

I like to think he'd have the wherewithal not to comment on other teams long ball tactics after the amount of games he's deployed this tactic.

Fat Sam should of made him aware. Sad listening.
 
If Darren Fletcher was available for the Champions league final against Barcelona - it wouldn't have made any difference to the result.

Not true... we should have beaten them in 2009

But adding Darren Fletcher and 5 other players to our midfield would have made no difference in 2011. Even Moyes wouldn't have started Giggs and Carrick vs Xavi, Inesta and Busquets in their prime
 
Van Gaal's currently doing a solid job as Manchester United manager.
He's getting the results, credit for that. But I am not impressed with him and he makes a lot of wrong decisions IMO. Hence my previous post.

Tragically, Borys, it's probable that a United team with you in it would beat the one selected by Louis.
My team would be strong enough to win it, I wouldn’t like to embarrass him.

Yeah, agree. We are in third after all. Been decent so far.
I can’t get my head around that. 5 points off 2nd, 5 away from 7th. Crazy.
 
Smalling was far from MOTM today and didn't play good. Despite his 2 goals, his horrible defending caused the first goal. And his horrible defending during the clash with Herrera nearly costed the second.
 
Smalling was far from MOTM today and didn't play good. Despite his 2 goals, his horrible defending caused the first goal. And his horrible defending during the clash with Herrera nearly costed the second.
He got it purely on the fact he scored two goals. Stupid voting. And Herrera should be starting.
 
I know that it's not nice, that it's not how we want the club to be run, but Van gaal probably needs to be sacked.

United is in a period of transition, and need a manager who makes real decisions, who doesn't shoehorn players because of their names and who can use his best players effectively (Mata, Rooney, Di Maria). The club can't lose more time or more occasions to fill the gap with Chelsea or City.

I feel that LVG is lacking the energy, the drive, the enthusiasm, the personal ambition, at the moment he looks like a shop manager.

Obviously the sacking is based a lot on what we are witnessing, maybe he has totally different plans for next season.

3rd in the table. Its far from perfect, but sacking him now won't help.
 
Smalling is an accident waiting to happen every game. Lacks aggression and brains. Rojo is our best centre-half by a margin.

Rooney is not a great #9...he's at his best playing off another striker. The people thinking he'd do great up top by himself have forgotten how poor his touch/holding up can be. His work-rate and all round ability are useful as a 10 though.

Van Persie is our best striker, and still one of the best in the world. Still has a lovely touch, decent feet. He's lacking a bit of confidence and he has had shocking service/not close enough to goal. He still shows moments of pure class every match.

Van Gaal is a stubborn man and is pretty daft/eccentric, however, he's still doing an adequate job. He has a track record, and at least he's inventive and progressive. Get behind him, stop moaning every single week. He regularly tries many changes, but is too stubborn to change when they aren't working.
 
Not true... we should have beaten them in 2009

But adding Darren Fletcher and 5 other players to our midfield would have made no difference in 2011. Even Moyes wouldn't have started Giggs and Carrick vs Xavi, Inesta and Busquets in their prime

Not to mention barca had most of their defence out that day, I think 3 out of 4 of them were either injured of suspended. We should have walked the final in 2009.

We never had a chance in 2011, as you said playing giggs and carrick in a midfield 2 against Xavi, iniesta and sergi is lunacy....what was SAF thinking?
 
De Gea isn't at all convincing at corners. Needs to be more dominant.
Don't think too many will argue with you here. His command of his area is maybe the area he needs most work on, but he has improved immensely since joining us and certainly isn't bad.
 
Van Gaal's currently doing a solid job as Manchester United manager.


Came in here to post this. Other than some bizarre team selections. I think he has been fantastic and happy he's ours. Very confident that we will get top 3.
 
3rd in the table. Its far from perfect, but sacking him now won't help.

It has nothing to do with our results, I fear that he is afraid to make the drastic changes needed, he is trying to steady a sinking ship when he should build a new one.

And It's for this summer not right now, its also depending on his plan for the future, and finally while it's what I feel, I don't want to him be sacked, I like him.
 
Don't think too many will argue with you here. His command of his area is maybe the area he needs most work on, but he has improved immensely since joining us and certainly isn't bad.

He needs to get everyone the feck out of his road. At the minute he's still too timid, is too easy boxed in on his line. Its a notable advantage that Courtois has over him at the minute and is whats holding me back from considering him absolute top drawer.
 
Came in here to post this. Other than some bizarre team selections. I think he has been fantastic and happy he's ours. Very confident that we will get top 3.

He needs to drop falcao and play rooney up top then start Herrera in the midfield and we'll start doing a lot better.. We are getting the results but look terrible on the pitch at the moment
 
Brenton, after a thoroughly satisfying (and short lived) wobble this season has got his team playing entertaining and dedicated football. If things don't dramatically change we will finish below Liverpool this season.
 
Not to mention barca had most of their defence out that day, I think 3 out of 4 of them were either injured of suspended. We should have walked the final in 2009.

We never had a chance in 2011, as you said playing giggs and carrick in a midfield 2 against Xavi, iniesta and sergi is lunacy....what was SAF thinking?

He wanted width to try and get around their midfield.

As has been said, none of our midfielders were anywhere near the standard of those Barca three. You can't argue with Carrick starting, and Giggs was our most mobile and in-form CM at the time. Who would you rather have played - Anderson?

People go on about how it would have been different with Fletch, but they utterly battered us in both finals. Second best to that team isn't too bad.
 
Smalling is an accident waiting to happen every game. Lacks aggression and brains. Rojo is our best centre-half by a margin.

You defo won't find many who agree with that. Rojo is more brainless imo. In fact I don't even think he's better than Jones.
 
Not to mention barca had most of their defence out that day, I think 3 out of 4 of them were either injured of suspended. We should have walked the final in 2009.

We never had a chance in 2011, as you said playing giggs and carrick in a midfield 2 against Xavi, iniesta and sergi is lunacy....what was SAF thinking?

We got to the final playing good football with that set up so he decided to stick with it. Not what I'dve done mind. I remember being ridiculed on another forum before that game for saying we should play a 433 only for the same people to say the same thing after the match. We'd have lost whatever set up we used of course, Barca were absolutely unreal that day
 
People here seem to think that LVG makes some "bizarre" decisions, but he's done a lot this year that the fans wanted.

1. "Stop bringing of Falcao and give him a full game, he won't dare drop his Dutch friend RVP" - As Falcao starts to play more it is evident he's not up to it at the moment
2. "5-3-2 doesn't work we play so much better with four at the back" - Nothing has chaged
3. "I could pick a better team" - this is the most laughable idea of them all. We're third.

We have no idea how players do at training or how fit they are. Hell we don't even know the players instructions and how they carry them out. In his first season I'm very happy with third.
 
If we miss top 4 this season and the mob mentality shown on places like here forces the club to sack LVG. Then regardless of who we replace LVG with (Mourinho excluded) we won't get top 4 for another 2 seasons.

In a nutshell we are far far more likely to finish top 4 next season with LVG than without.
 
De Gea isn't at all convincing at corners. Needs to be more dominant.

I don't think that is too much of a problem with him anymore tbh, of course it could use a bit of work but the biggest area he needs to improve is his positioning in general play/coming off his line and when to come off. A fair few times this season he has got caught on his heels when the defenders wanted him to provide an option. Even Blackett gave him an earful in a recent game over it.
 
People here seem to think that LVG makes some "bizarre" decisions, but he's done a lot this year that the fans wanted.

1. "Stop bringing of Falcao and give him a full game, he won't dare drop his Dutch friend RVP" - As Falcao starts to play more it is evident he's not up to it at the moment
There was a time RvP was in poor form, and we had Falcao sitting on the bench. It was reasonable to give him a chance. Now both of them are in terrible form, so it would be wise to bench at least one of them, because we still have 2 strikers who can take their spot. And he’s still not dropping van Persie.
2. "5-3-2 doesn't work we play so much better with four at the back" - Nothing has chaged
I think we’re scoring more now but either way the formation isn’t the problem.

3. "I could pick a better team" - this is the most laughable idea of them all. We're third.
We are one draw from being out of top 4. I am content with our position but it doesn’t tell you the story, we’ve been very fortunate to get points from some games this season. And this guy’s team selection is insane. Do you agree with his decisions just because we sit third?

We have no idea how players do at training or how fit they are. Hell we don't even know the players instructions and how they carry them out. In his first season I'm very happy with third.
I can’t even imagine how good must be Falcao, van Persie, Rooney in training and how shit must be Herrera to find himself on the bench every week.
 
People here seem to think that LVG makes some "bizarre" decisions, but he's done a lot this year that the fans wanted.

1. "Stop bringing of Falcao and give him a full game, he won't dare drop his Dutch friend RVP" - As Falcao starts to play more it is evident he's not up to it at the moment
2. "5-3-2 doesn't work we play so much better with four at the back" - Nothing has chaged
3. "I could pick a better team" - this is the most laughable idea of them all. We're third.

We have no idea how players do at training or how fit they are. Hell we don't even know the players instructions and how they carry them out. In his first season I'm very happy with third.

It's like he's doing bits of it, but sabotaging it at the same time. For instance, most people who wanted Falcao given a run wanted it to be in place of Van Persie, yet he plays them together and lets them both falter together at the expense of the team. There are calls for 4 at the back, but when he does it, he plays 1 midfielder and 5 forwards. It's almost like he's giving in a bit to the fans but doing it in a way that it makes what he wants to do seem like a better option. He seems just psychotic enough to do something like that.
 
We fumble our way through this season and secure champions league football I'd be happy. What's more I feel with a couple of signings and a summer with the squad and LVG will have us playing the football we want to see.
 
We fumble our way through this season and secure champions league football I'd be happy. What's more I feel with a couple of signings and a summer with the squad and LVG will have us playing the football we want to see.

Sorry for playing devil's advocate but come on. Any team save maybe Chelsea and City would love to have the sort of options we have. With the money we've spent and more importantly the personnel we do have on hand, and with LVG's track record we should be playing a much better brand of football results notwithstanding.

He has the tools to make it work and isn't showing he has a clue how to do so, or at least isn't willif to. For me, more signings are a bullshit excuse because the true flaw with us is how we choose to play and misuse personnel.
 
LVG is 'winging it'
After such optimism, I am starting to believe LVG hasn't a bloody clue what he's doing.
Our football is dire, (I know we are third) but its dire.. and has been for a long time, pre LVG.
This obsession with finishing in the champions league, (financial reasons) has been detrimental to the (united way).
We are disjointed and awkward.
 
There was a time RvP was in poor form, and we had Falcao sitting on the bench. It was reasonable to give him a chance. Now both of them are in terrible form, so it would be wise to bench at least one of them, because we still have 2 strikers who can take their spot. And he’s still not dropping van Persie.

I think we’re scoring more now but either way the formation isn’t the problem.


We are one draw from being out of top 4. I am content with our position but it doesn’t tell you the story, we’ve been very fortunate to get points from some games this season. And this guy’s team selection is insane. Do you agree with his decisions just because we sit third?


I can’t even imagine how good must be Falcao, van Persie, Rooney in training and how shit must be Herrera to find himself on the bench every week.

Who around us hasn't been fortunate exactly ? Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal and ourselves have been as bad as each other. Even City's position looks tenuous. Southampton come out of this looking rosy as they are over-achieving.
 
Sorry for playing devil's advocate but come on. Any team save maybe Chelsea and City would love to have the sort of options we have. With the money we've spent and more importantly the personnel we do have on hand, and with LVG's track record we should be playing a much better brand of football results notwithstanding.

He has the tools to make it work and isn't showing he has a clue how to do so, or at least isn't willif to. For me, more signings are a bullshit excuse because the true flaw with us is how we choose to play and misuse personnel.
I think he's tied himself up, with the players he has and the players he's chosen to bring in. Come summer we will be playing 1 up top and have the ability to play another midfielder like Herrera. Its hard to argue that our team isn't ridiculously unbalanced right now?
 
Utd are now skirting the first stages of a curve on the circle of success which leads inexorably away from its positive centre, a positive centre whose circle was tracked at such an intense pulsation for so long that the cooling process which follows necessarily entails the establishment of at least a generation between itself and a return to it, regardless of managers, formations, star signings, intermittent mini-successes in the form of minor trophies, continued media attention, and retention of fanbase.
See 1969 to 1989.
 
I think he's tied himself up, with the players he has and the players he's chosen to bring in. Come summer we will be playing 1 up top and have the ability to play another midfielder like Herrera. Its hard to argue that our team isn't ridiculously unbalanced right now?

True too. Not sure why you're saying come summer we'll play one top and another midfielder like Herrera though. We have no idea what's going to happen and what his plan is. This is like the whole frikkin' Kagawa situation again. We have the means to play Herrera in the best midfield we've had for a few seasons and make it viable. It's been been proven too that it can work. But no, we shun the one player who would improve us and play a complete a bunch of misfits out of position.
 
True too. Not sure why you're saying come summer we'll play one top and another midfielder like Herrera though. We have no idea what's going to happen and what his plan is. This is like the whole frikkin' Kagawa situation again. We have the means to play Herrera in the best midfield we've had for a few seasons and make it viable. It's been been proven too that it can work. But no, we shun the one player who would improve us and play a complete a bunch of misfits out of position.
I say it because I can't see Falcao staying and RVP will be told he has a squad role next year.
 
Smalling was quite poor yesterday. Scored two goals which is brilliant, but his defending was shocking at times.
 
Smalling was quite poor yesterday. Scored two goals which is brilliant, but his defending was shocking at times.
The back four were ah bag of nerves, they are so afraid of making a mistake that the can't focus on anything else.
 
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