If everyone considered him to be one of the outstanding managers on the planet, then he'd be overrated. They don't though, just like we never did before we got him. He's considered to have a mixed record, which is exactly accurate. He was the best available candidate for us, not the best candidate full stop. I think pretty much everyone recognizes that.
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If everyone considered him to be one of the outstanding managers on the planet, then he'd be overrated. They don't though, just like we never did before we got him. He's considered to have a mixed record, which is exactly accurate. He was the best available candidate for us, not the best candidate full stop. I think pretty much everyone recognizes that.
Tell Spain.
Well, this is awkward...
Vote for Pedro!
If you deliberately kick the ball against the opposition goalkeeper, and it goes in, it should count as your goal. I often think, from a tight angle, your best off blasting at the keepers feet.
Laws of Physics >>>> The wonky eyes of Jonathan Pearce
Maybe in the finals themselves but we deserved a little luck considering we didnt lose on the way to both the 99 and 08 finals
maybe, but I reckon will still do better than moyes...who couldn't really be rated one way or the other before he joined us...
Pep is overrated
England will have perfected Tiki-Taka just in time for it to be completely dominated by counter attacking football.
Busquets, Pepe & Ramos could become football-disabled through a tackle and the world of football would be better for it.
Drama Queen, madman and their son.
Drama Queen, madman and their son.
What a perfect way to describe them.
I agree about Pepe and Ramos because they are overrated, but I think the world would miss Biscuits because for his cnuty side, he is a genuine talent.
My unpopular opinion is, I think Kagawa is the most overrated player in our squad.
I'll agree with that.
He's done nothing for us, hasn't stepped up at all. He's scored no goals this season, got 3 assists and people were crying out for him. Mata comes in, not played much football. He gets 7 goals and 6 assists for us in a limited time frame in a David Moyes squad. Its clear who I'd rather have, Mata is the better player, Shinji has been poor. I don't even blame the signing of RVP, Kagawa has not adapted, simple as.
I laugh at the suggestions that the club has ruined him, we have not built our squad around him yes, but he's supposed to be a top player he should be giving us goals and assists regardless who He's a passenger for most games he's in, Januzaj is 18 and a number 10, played on the wing and has delivered.
Prepare for a statistical onslaught from MadWinger.
Valencia is a workhorse and we need to stop underrating his contribution. He will not do a Robben but agaisnt Burnley on a Tuesday night he will stand up and be counted.
His recent contribution has been nothing short of embarrassing.
He has played badly this season, but in the big games if we want to be compact he serves a purpose. Fergie saw his worth and he did not let Moyes down over the 2 legs of the Champions league QF. Do you remember after he had a golf ball on his head he battled and played like a warrior and showed some real skill? If you memory is short find the Man of the match threads that correspond to that game and he features very prominently indeed.
Where I have seen a drop off over the season is in his final pass and its a worry. That said I would not sell him this summer.
A team of Championship English players would have done better at this World Cup. They should play only Championship players in the next Euro to prove me right..
This is pretty bold. What makes you think this?
First of all the biggest problem is the English media. They spend all season winding every supporter up to viciously support their club to the point where they'd punch on over it. Then when the tournament starts that deep seeded dormant hate from club level sneaks through about certain players from certain teams so that when something happens during the tournament the cynical fallback attitude is to revert back to the seeded hate for that player. Ie. Rooney, Gerrard, Terry etc etc.
These top tier players are the biggest problem. They are paid handsomely and esteemed at club level but when you step into the NT it's no longer about individuals. It's about the unity of the team and the fractured nature of everything in the top tier is just completely wrong for that mentality. Scrutinizing performances to the bone, imbibing ridiculous amounts of hatred for certain aspects for literally no reason. From the outside it just looks like it's no fun supporting England at all though their fans eyes they seem to deserve it all when it should be more about the fanfare about being about the world cup than the result. Because in all honesty if this team gives 110% and spills blood sweat and tears for the NT and comes up short? Then it obviously wasn't to be in the first place. That is an attitude that is eliminated with hostile and incendiary brainwashing of fans by the media during club season. The fans have become rabid animals instead of well educated and level-headed fans. Purely because it sells papers/hits.
Which brings me to the Championship players. Can you see a team of Championship's best players and biggest bravehearts being crucified by the fans? Players they barely know of giving it their all for the shirt and even if they aren't the 'best' players in the country? It would certainly be more fun for both parties involved if this was the case.
The fans aren't getting behind 'the team' they are getting behind divisions of their own players from their respective clubs and that mentality has to stop before they can rebuild and actually have the receded pressure going into the WCF games.
You make really good points. Would certainly bring up some good discussion. And I agree with the bolded part that it's just a fractured national mentality that is one of the biggest hinderances to the team's performance.
Cleverley will find his form under the new regime.
I hope you're right.
He won't turn him into a world beater but a manager who'll encourage pass and move football, one touch football can surely help Cleverley be a reliable squad option.
Yes. The current players are crucified because supporters don't think they are the best. There is constant criticism of Sturridge is better than Rooney and Welbeck or Welbeck is the best or w.e. At least there can be a debate there. Picking Troy Deeney it is obvious he isn't as good as any of them. When England get knocked out it would then be the same complaints of why aren't Sturridge, Welbeck etc. playing and why shite Championship players are.
Is it alright if you could make a thread regarding the tribalism in English football and how it affects the national team? I'd like to add on and discuss this point, but this thread isn't appropriate.
Anyways, back on topic. This isn't my opinion or view, but it definitely could be unpopular:
- Zaha shouldn't be given a second chance due to his poor attitude on display last season.
I'll counter goldenstatesplash's unpopular opinion with one of my own:
The English media has little or no effect on the performances of the English football team
The English media has little or no effect on the performances of the English football team
Oh definitely, not expecting total re-works. If he can just get Cleverley back to where he was a few years ago when he was a positive, attack-minded player I'll be happy. I think van Gaal will certainly help.
He has the potential to be an above-average midfielder. He, like Carrick a few years back, needs to sack up.
I'll agree with that too. He gets cut so much more slack than other players who haven't cut the mustard.
Enner is better than Antonio.
That shouldn't be unpopular. It's completely rational.
The only slight issue with that view I have is that Hodgson clearly allows the media to impact upon team selection.
The one thing LVG has that I like is stamina. Like Sir Alex his success spans a long period of time. Lots of managers are good for 5-10 years and then they fade away. Some even less.
LVG is the sort of manager who can move with the times and continue to apply his philosophy. Lots of managers seem to hit the wall and run out of ideas. LVG seems to be able to still deliver after all these years.
It shouldn't be, but ask any cnut why England don't win and the media will always be in the top 2 reasons.
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