We(Aries,Leo and Sagittarius) have big egos that can rub up people(and usually do) the wrong way. We have this incredible self bealif(we are always right even when we wrong). Just think about it. You got Fire,Earth,Air and Water, which element is most likely to hurt you? Van Gaal is a Leo, him and Giggs together could go either way!
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Smalling, Jones and Evans aren't good enough.
Well that escalated quickly...
Neither of you know him at a personal level
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i feel like valencia doesnt try.
For some reason i feel like he used to be a lot faster.. when i see him put "pace" on his run, i feel he runs slow. I dont know why.
For some reason i feel like he used to be a lot faster.. when i see him put "pace" on his run, i feel he runs slow. I dont know why.
Neither of you know him at a personal level
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I don't think it's unreasonable to regard any man that sleeps with his brothers wife as a cnut, whether you know him on a personal level or not.
The quality of England players is getting worse not better
I feel the same about Welbeck and Nani. They're both extremely quick but never seem to make use of that pace on a run.
Neither of you know him at a personal level
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I don't know John Terry on a personal level either, doesn't mean I can't judge his actions. Same thing with any public figure.
He was sleeping with his brother's wife, that makes him a bit of a prick tbh. The fact that he's a United legend doesn't really change that.
Bit of a prick? You're being kind, that's as low as it gets really.
I think Smalling is comfortably better than all of your other defenders.
Suarez will stay at Liverpool.
In my opinion Madrid are the biggest club in the world. No other club really gets near them either.
Hernandez is one of the top seven or eight strikers in the league.
Toure is overrated.
Liverpool will win a trophy next season.
Suarez will stay at Liverpool.
In my opinion Madrid are the biggest club in the world. No other club really gets near them either.
Hernandez is one of the top seven or eight strikers in the league.
Toure is overrated.
Liverpool will win a trophy next season.
Everyone knows Kolo is shite.
If you exclude fullbacks(Rafael), then I would have to agree. And even if you don't exclude fullbacks, I still think you're sort of right, because of Rafael's constant injuries.
Smalling has generally been class when he's featured in the CB position. Too bad for him that Rafael is injured all the time. His rightback performances really ruins his reputation.
Giggs, Scholes etc should of left/retired years ago. Fergusons reliance on them has caused the current midfield problems.
Definitely.
it's great for giggs that he can play in his 40. It's not great for us that a 40 year old can still get into the team.
Welbeck will never be good enough for us. If he wasn't a local lad and youth product he'd be as highly regarded as Young and Anderson.
Fergie should not have been allowed to choose his successor.
Fergie should not have been allowed to choose his successor.
While I agree that he won't be good enough to lead the line on his own long term, I disagree with him being on the same level as duds like Anderson and Young. Certainly think he's currently much better than them and will be even more so as he gets better.
Agree. But maybe the real issue is that we cannot compete for the best players, both because of finances (at least in the aftermath of selling Ronaldo) and also because we are the only ones who view United as the biggest club in the world...I doubt our pulling power, and even more so now that there is no CL
We had a chance to really add top quality on the back of the treble, like Keane said, but we became complacent (yeah, we did well domestically, but were rather disappointing in Europe). And then we had another fantastic team slowly dismantled at the end of the last decade. We've definitely been complacent as a club, whether that's lack of ambition, overestimation of our current squad/staff or restricted finances or simply that the best don't fancy joining us...
This summer will address those questions one way or another.
Rooney is a vital member of the team, and although it's excessive his 300k p/w is justified.
Fellaini should be given a chance under LVG, and frankly most of his critics only criticise him because he's new, and physically stands out, and because everyone else does. Plus being signed by Moyes was always going to prove unpopular.
Fellaini should be given a chance under LVG, and frankly most of his critics only criticise him because he's new, and physically stands out, and because everyone else does. Plus being signed by Moyes was always going to prove unpopular.
I'd much rather see Hernandez leave than welbeck, not because he's a local lad but because when Hernandez starts it's like playing with 10 men.
Nope. He's a Manc Ameobi. He works hard for the team and does whatever he's told that's it. A team of United's stature should have a set starting lineup like Barcelona, Real, Bayern, Juventus even City. What we have is a bunch of above average players who can do a job. Welbeck is one of them. I've never seen Barcelona or Bayern pick a striker to do man marking.
I really cannot see how Rooney's pay package is justified, hasn't it been 2-3 years since he had a season that can be labelled as a really good season? He's allegedly also earning a 100K more a week than van Persie. For me, Rooney isn't more important or better. It's bowing down to the wishes of an individual when other important members of the team are maybe earning a third, or quarter of what Rooney earns. He's a very good player and important for any side he'd play for, but I personally think he's underwhelmed if he is to be viewed as a world class player
You've no right to judge any player you weren't around to see and if your 'best 11' includes players you didn't watch on a regular basis but rather full of people who others have told you were good or you remember vague highlight packages of them in black and white - you're not a footballing connoisseur, you're an idiot and impressing nobody.
who are you replying to?
Someone who has read the thread title.
300k/w should be awarded to a world class player who is consistent and can at times win you games single handedly. Rooney's last good season was 2009-10. Since then his form has been sporadic. He has good spells were he's unplayable, good spells were he gets a goal/assist without playing well, average spells were he runs around a lot without doing much, shit spells were he ruins everything.
There's unpopular opinions and then there's just completely wrong ones too.Got some more here.
I've never rated Xavi as highly as some. I don't think he'll go down in the Pantheon of greats.
In addition to this, behind each recent Barcelona CL win, a quite ludicrous decision has put them through in a tie where they'd otherwise have gone out.
I've never rated Xavi as highly as some. I don't think he'll go down in the Pantheon of greats.
In addition to this, behind each recent Barcelona CL win, a quite ludicrous decision has put them through in a tie where they'd otherwise have gone out.
I've seen this argument in reference to Maradonna, Pele, Best. Basically anyone who played before the BPL and tv rights and youtube.
No he's not. He's hardly world class and might not be at any point in his career but he's no Ameobi. His goalscoring record last year for example was quite decent for a player you're labeling as an Ameobi.
I agree that he shouldn't probably be a consistent starter, but he's a very handy squad player to have I think. If we need someone to do a job then we've got him there, but his goalscoring record as a striker isn't appalling either. Certainly not as bad as you're making out.
How can anyone judge anyone they didn't see? It's bonkers. You may as well list your favourite holiday destination as Australia and then say "i've never been but I've seen pics and Aunt Mavis said it was nice"
Unless you've seen someone over a significant period you can't judge. We can all have a vague idea of the concept of Pele being a great player but most people don't really have that opinion, it's just something learned from others. If you're compiling a list of your favourite players then actually seeing them play (aside from 'The best of...' VHS tapes) has to be rule one.
very few people mention that Barcelona were extremely lucky to get to the 2009 final. Maybe it's because Chelsea were the ones who got screwed in the semifinal. Xavi was great between 2008-11. That imo is one of the best 3 seasons any midfielder has ever had.
I understand your point. What I hate about the argument is that it assumes younger fans have no say in debates about the GOAT players/teams. If someone says Messi or Ronaldo they get criticised for not being knowledgeable. But their opinion is not wrong because it's based on players they've watched. Usually I prefer these debates to be confined to the generation that player/team belonged.
It's simple economics really, supply and demand wrt Rooney's wages.
I would label last year as a good season for Rooney, all things considered and in comparison with the rest of the players. Rooney was our best outfield player last year, no question, nobody else came close except a breakthrough 18-year old. But that alone doesn't justify his 300k p/w of course. He's our most marketable player by a long shot, he may not be liked by football fans, but sponsors line up for him.
I would argue that he has been consistent. Over the last 5 seasons he's averaged something like 18 goals, the season before last when we accommodated RVP and he was played largely in midfield he still scored like 13 and made 15 assists, and thats still with injuries. He's one of our top scorers for a reason. He may not play well every single game, but honestly none of our players do.
I suppose the most obvious argument you can hit Xavi with is that he has been - to a great degree - part of a certain machinery and thus, possibly, been made to look better than he actually is (because the machinery was so bloody impressive). The same could be said for Iniesta. But at the end of the day that argument simply doesn't hold water - because these players do transcend the machinery when you look at them closely. Technically and tactically Xavi is quite simply a great midfielder - and that's that as far as I'm concerned.
Liverpool are not going to fade away, despite everyone saying they will struggle with the extra games, in my opinion they will be stronger.
The romance of Man United is hyped up by the media and fans, I don't think that it has a big pull when a player has a choice between us and another club.
Because of our history, players who come through the youth ranks are over rated by our fans.
In terms of quality our squad is so not as bad as the media have made out. It is low on confidence not quality, a major overhaul is not needed, we just need to fix up in one or two areas.
If we fix our midfield problems, we will see that we have the best attack in the league next season.
The romance of Man United is hyped up by the media and fans, I don't think that it has a big pull when a player has a choice between us and another club.
Because of our history, players who come through the youth ranks are over rated by our fans.
In terms of quality our squad is so not as bad as the media have made out. It is low on confidence not quality, a major overhaul is not needed, we just need to fix up in one or two areas.
If we fix our midfield problems, we will see that we have the best attack in the league next season.
Rooney on his best day is a top 5 player in the world. But how many times does he show this kind of form? Not to mention how we lack any sort of dynamism when he's in the team. Last year he was the best of a bad bunch and mostly stood out against teams like Norwich which are coincidentally the matches we looked half decent as a team.. In the big games he was anonymous. RVP was preferred by Fergie because he was a better player and better striker. Rooney wasn't playing well which is why he was dropped for the Madrid game. I don't care about his marketability because it has no bearing on our performances. How many trophies did Beckham's marketability get Real Madrid?
Nani is a great footballer
Kagawa should leave
Moyes didn´t get enough time and inherited an ageing squad
Magnus is a good poster
Kagawa should leave
Moyes didn´t get enough time and inherited an ageing squad
Magnus is a good poster
I don't think its just down to Rooney for our lack of dynamism, I see Rooney busting a gut more than most of our players tbh, and more often than not he comes in deep to help players who are struggling to find a free player and allow play to continue.
RVP is the better striker, no question about that - but that doesn't mean that Rooney's contribution should be reduced.
And I mentioned Rooney's marketability because it goes a long way to justifying his 300k p/w.
But for maybe the 'British quota', I'd have Hernandez stay over Welbeck
Evans is United's best defender and Smalling hasn't been that impressive.
He was banging his brothers wife. Unless it is revealed that she had some special kind of vaginal cancer that could only be cured by the cock of her brother-in-law, which meant he was actually only doing her a favour after all, it's safe to say he's not the nicest guy around
Evans is United's best defender and Smalling hasn't been that impressive.
Neither of you know him at a personal level
Edit: Thats not the smiley i wanted to use at all, but i like it. Im going to keep it there.
He was banging his brothers wife. Unless it is revealed that she had some special kind of vaginal cancer that could only be cured by the cock of her brother-in-law, which meant he was actually only doing her a favour after all, it's safe to say he's not the nicest guy around- Status