Unpopular Opinion | Not sacking Ten Hag

[Roboc7]

Or, you know, they could stand by him, do what I have suggested and call out the players telling them it is up to them to prove they deserve their place in the team and that they are the talent they believe themselves to be.

I’d make a compromise and say that if getting rid of Ten Hag guaranteed us getting rid of Rashford, I’d probably bite your hand off

What does standing by him until December and sacking him achieve though. It just shows the players you’ll take a bit longer to make a decision and do the same thing anyway. If you want to stand by the manager you have to do so for at least a couple of seasons which is pretty untenable and unthinkable after this season.

If the club want to show players things have changed then they need to stop paying out huge wages, stop renewing contracts and be prepared to move on from players quicker.

 

[Nickelodeon]

We're in a position to not be in the 3rd tier of European football next season. Think about that for a moment.

I am. It is shambolic. Which is why I consider it an unpopular opinion to not sack Ten Hag.

Substitute the players that left and all of your points apply to last season. Why continue with the current manager if we already know the outcome? We don't know what a new manager will bring. Sure, we can speculate, but there are several new factors that will play a big part in how the new manager handles us. Ownership. Actual football people running the club for once.

My entire point is that for a change, let's back the manager when it is maybe wiser to sack them and get rid of the players who have led us to this point under various managers. Think of the performances (or lack of it) from Rashford or Maguire under Ole/Rangnick and yet they continue to be part of the team. On top of that, Rashford is now one of the highest paid player of the club. The same players have been routinely raising their games when needed and not having the motivation or quality to do it when the going gets tough. What message are we constantly sending to the likes of Rashford who will be under a 5th (!) permanent manager if we sack Ten Hag?

This makes no sense. Why would we sack a manager with a proper functioning team? Your basically saying there are no better alternatives now so let's stick with him until October-December and then hope for a new manager bounce. What top manager is going to be available in that period that is not available this summer?

Don't think you fully understood the point you've quoted here. I'm saying that if we don't sack Ten Hag, the best case scenario is that we finally get the sort of performances we hoped or expected this season. Or the situation would be toxic and we sack him around October-December.

Regarding availability of managers, I don't think that should be an issue. There's no outstanding candidate available right now and there may not be one in the middle of the season. Despite everything, we will still retain a pull where we can get managers to leave their jobs and join us.

I think the writing is on the wall with ETH. This club is in a shambles. It was in a shambles before ETH was hired. He was supposed to be the one to start the rebuild. His signings have been largely disappointing. Apart from a few new players and getting rid of a few, I see no improvement in our style of play, consistency, or results. In fact, you can argue we are worse off now than we were when any of the past 3 managers were in charge. 4 if you count Rangnick. I see no compelling reason to continue into next season with ETH as manager.

I don't disagree at all. I'm just putting in a contrary opinion that we've been through this situation under other managers too. Similar attitude or disciplinary issues, similar downing of tools, similar Rashford performances (yes, I've had it with him) and similar injured players. Maybe this one time, we give the manager the sort of leeway we've given many of these players. Rashford has scored 6 open play goals this season and yet there's hardly any outrage in the media to kick him out of the club. Because it must be the manager, right? It always is the manager and the directors and the owners. When will it be solely the players and big earners at that?

Any big club which finishes outside the top 6 has had a shambolic season. It's easy to think with blinkered eyes but the situation for Arteta at Arsenal was incredibly toxic. And a lot of the underperforming and overpaid players were signings under him. I'm not a fan of the 'because it happened for them, it will happen for us' argument. Ultimately, they wanted a change of culture under the same manager who started the project and despite an finishing 8th in 19/20, then 8th in 20/21 and then 5th in 21/22, this is where they are. It's easy to sack a manager when the situation is toxic and there seems to be no upside. But if we showed the faith in Ten Hag being a good coach, give him the benefit of the doubt for this season. Just this one time, maybe we don't sack the manager even when it seems blatantly obvious and tell the players that it's them and get them out one way or the other.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

So the idea of keeping him to spite the players is broken at the outset.

As I take it, this idea basically amounts to:

We keep ETH and allow him to get rid of players that are substandard or otherwise not fit for the purpose (as he sees it).

And that is...well, I believe it was you who used the term fan fiction above - and that's pretty accurate.

It will never happen (unless INEOS are insane - and we all hope they aren't...).

 

[Big Ben Foster]

What does standing by him until December and sacking him achieve though. It just shows the players you’ll take a bit longer to make a decision and do the same thing anyway. If you want to stand by the manager you have to do so for at least a couple of seasons which is pretty untenable and unthinkable after this season.

If the club want to show players things have changed then they need to stop paying out huge wages, stop renewing contracts and be prepared to move on from players quicker.

"December" is just another moving target.

I have no doubt that if we did just that, once December came around the usual suspects would all be saying "we might as well keep him for the rest of the season, there's nothing to play for / no quality replacements are available".

 

[Big Ben Foster]

I am. It is shambolic. Which is why I consider it an unpopular opinion to not sack Ten Hag.

Acknowledging that your opinion is unpopular isn't a "get out of jail free" card when people criticize it

 

[K Stand Knut]

What does standing by him until December and sacking him achieve though. It just shows the players you’ll take a bit longer to make a decision and do the same thing anyway. If you want to stand by the manager you have to do so for at least a couple of seasons which is pretty untenable and unthinkable after this season.

If the club want to show players things have changed then they need to stop paying out huge wages, stop renewing contracts and be prepared to move on from players quicker.

Completely agree and the bolder part could be the first step in the right direction. Not getting rid of the players only shows that you will accept mediocrity, under-performance and bad attitudes. No matter the manager; if he has to contend with what set-up, they’re fecked

 

[Roboc7]

Completely agree and the bolder part could be the first step in the right direction. Not getting rid of the players only shows that you will accept mediocrity, under-performance and bad attitudes. No matter the manager; if he has to contend with what set-up, they’re fecked

They have an ideal opportunity as so many are out of contract over next two years, how they deal with that will be a big indication of if and how much things have changed.

I don’t think there is any issue with sacking managers, most of ours have been given way more than they’d get at any other top club and most wouldn’t have even been given as much time by like of Spurs.

Spurs would sack ETH for this season so no one will bat an eyelid when we do. What has to change is only the manager being accountable. Woodward wasn’t, Arnold and Murtough were part of that regime but got promotions for it. The list of players is too long to go into. The club now has to show that everyone is accountable, has to demonstrate they are worth what they are paid and are dispensable if they don’t.

 

[Ekeke]

I would like to be behind him. I would like to be on his side. He was a highly rated, sought after manager that we were looking at some time and we got him.

But whats going on on the pitch leaves no ability to defend him. We dont do anything well. His signings havent worked. Our players dont play as a team.

Yes of course the injuries are awful. Its hard to think that we arent doing something to cause them more often.

However even if you put that to one side and say okay, too often we havent been able to play with our full quality players together... You need the 11 players to go out there and play as a team, even if its one that ultimately loses beccause they didnt quite have the quality. It should be close. The effort and workrate should be there. The players should be able to know where each other are going to be and quickly receive and move the ball on with 2 touches without having their head up for 2 seconds when they receieve the ball to try and work out whats going on. We dont have any of that

Our players go out there and get outfought for loose balls and challenges and we slowly move the ball very predictably in a way thats easy to defend, other than Casemiro who will often try a long pass behind the defence first time when the ball is played to him with varying success, but at least it gives a bit of a threat of getting in behind and the chance we could recover a cleared ball. It does lose the ball at times when he gets it wrong or the players going for the ball do a poor job though.

So what is there to like and hope that something is going to click and we're going to go on a 5 wins in 6 type run?

I cant come up with anything.

The only thing we're any good at is the same thing we were good at like 5 years ago, before the manager and thats counterattacking. We have fast wingers who like to shoot so we can break quickly and look a threat, maybe get some goals on a good day. Thats pretty much been the case since Rashford broke through that we have that and thats still the only thing we have.

 

[Nickelodeon]

Acknowledging that your opinion is unpopular isn't a "get out of jail free" card when people criticize it

Not saying that my post or opinion is above criticism. I’m agreeing that it’s shambolic season. Despite that, I’m considering the possibility of not sacking the manager and laying out reasons why I believe that. I can fully understand if other fans don’t agree with it.

 

[K Stand Knut]

They have an ideal opportunity as so many are out of contract over next two years, how they deal with that will be a big indication of if and how much things have changed.

I don’t think there is any issue with sacking managers, most of ours have been given way more than they’d get at any other top club and most wouldn’t have even been given as much time by like of Spurs.

Spurs would sack ETH for this season so no one will bat an eyelid when we do. What has to change is only the manager being accountable. Woodward wasn’t, Arnold and Murtough were part of that regime but got promotions for it. The list of players is too long to go into. The club now has to show that everyone is accountable, has to demonstrate they are worth what they are paid and are dispensable if they don’t.

Absolutely spot on. Great post.

My opinion hasn’t and probably won’t change in terms of what I’ve posted today but that’s just because I have a very cute and cuddly view on what I want the club to do.

I wholly expect that Ten Hag will be gone in less than 3 weeks, as well as accepting that he probably should have gone sooner - after the Chelsea game may have been the ideal opportunity.

That doesn’t stop me from having a different, possibly wrong, opinion to what appears to be the masses

 

[Yakuza_devils]

People complain that Sancho should go because he didn't perform for the last 2 years he was here. People complain that Rashford should go because of his bad performance this year despite he was very good last year. People complain that Casemeiro should go. People complain that Antony should go. People complain that Maguire should go. People complain that McT should go. And the list goes on and on........

Suddenly, the most important appointment of the club the manager who flop for 2 years must be given more time to proof himself. No Man Utd manager should be given time if failed to finish Top 4 let alone finishing 8th with no style of play.

Meanwhile, in real world, I hope I'm working for an organisation where I flop for 2 years and wasted 400M of the organisation funds, and yet the management is in the opinion that I should be given more time to improve. It's impossible in real world, I will be kicked out long ago and probably be sued by the organisation for my incompetency too.

 

[Scottynaldinho]

Mark my words. This time next year we would be discussing how some idiots wanted him out this time last year.

 

[The Boy]

Or, you know, they could stand by him, do what I have suggested and call out the players telling them it is up to them to prove they deserve their place in the team and that they are the talent they believe themselves to be.

Haven't they done this to a certain extent by being quite open that most of the squad would be sold for the right offer. I can't remember seeing any direct quotes (though that would be quite shocking) but most reputable outlets have reported that the only ones that United wouldn't be open to selling were Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund.

 

[Carolina Red]

Mark my words. This time next year we would be discussing how some idiots wanted him out this time last year.

Post bookmarked.

 

[peridigm]

I am. It is shambolic. Which is why I consider it an unpopular opinion to not sack Ten Hag.



My entire point is that for a change, let's back the manager when it is maybe wiser to sack them and get rid of the players who have led us to this point under various managers. Think of the performances (or lack of it) from Rashford or Maguire under Ole/Rangnick and yet they continue to be part of the team. On top of that, Rashford is now one of the highest paid player of the club. The same players have been routinely raising their games when needed and not having the motivation or quality to do it when the going gets tough. What message are we constantly sending to the likes of Rashford who will be under a 5th (!) permanent manager if we sack Ten Hag?



Don't think you fully understood the point you've quoted here. I'm saying that if we don't sack Ten Hag, the best case scenario is that we finally get the sort of performances we hoped or expected this season. Or the situation would be toxic and we sack him around October-December.

Regarding availability of managers, I don't think that should be an issue. There's no outstanding candidate available right now and there may not be one in the middle of the season. Despite everything, we will still retain a pull where we can get managers to leave their jobs and join us.



I don't disagree at all. I'm just putting in a contrary opinion that we've been through this situation under other managers too. Similar attitude or disciplinary issues, similar downing of tools, similar Rashford performances (yes, I've had it with him) and similar injured players. Maybe this one time, we give the manager the sort of leeway we've given many of these players. Rashford has scored 6 open play goals this season and yet there's hardly any outrage in the media to kick him out of the club. Because it must be the manager, right? It always is the manager and the directors and the owners. When will it be solely the players and big earners at that?

Any big club which finishes outside the top 6 has had a shambolic season. It's easy to think with blinkered eyes but the situation for Arteta at Arsenal was incredibly toxic. And a lot of the underperforming and overpaid players were signings under him. I'm not a fan of the 'because it happened for them, it will happen for us' argument. Ultimately, they wanted a change of culture under the same manager who started the project and despite an finishing 8th in 19/20, then 8th in 20/21 and then 5th in 21/22, this is where they are. It's easy to sack a manager when the situation is toxic and there seems to be no upside. But if we showed the faith in Ten Hag being a good coach, give him the benefit of the doubt for this season. Just this one time, maybe we don't sack the manager even when it seems blatantly obvious and tell the players that it's them and get them out one way or the other.

I'd say we've largely backed the managers given the amount of money the club has spent on new players. Granted, they may not have gotten all of their #1 targets or been allowed to bin certain players, but ETH has been backed financially in the summer windows at least. The problem is, FFP has now caught up with us. That was to be expected. ETH got his #1 winger, his #1 CB, and his #1 keeper. He didn't get his #1 MF but that is not due to Barcelona not wanted or agreeing to sell him to us. By all accounts, the player rejected us. We ended up with a last resort hasbeen who's legs are gone.

Arsenal seemingly got it right with Arteta but Arteta also had the best teacher in the world to learn under. Alas, they haven't won anything yet and probably won't this season either.

I think it's fair for the owners to expect results from the manager and players when they spend hundreds of millions on new players. They have been calling the shots or at least appointing the individuals who call the shots so it's on them. The hope is that Ineos will correct the issues that have put us in the position we're in by appointing the correct football minds to take charge. They've had last season and this season to assess the situation. I can't see them wanting to continue with ETH for another season. They will want change sooner rather than later. I don't feel like his job hinges on one game either. If we win the final, it would be a good parting gift for ETH and he can take his players with him.

 

[Sandikan]

I wouldn't be against keeping him one more season (with zero say in transfers this summer) if he hadn't insisted on conceding 20 shots every game for nearly the whole season.

That is an unworkable style of play in the PL and he can't seem to see it.

It's this.
Any team can have a lot of injury problems and it does cause big problems. But we've been walked through in midfield from day 1, when we DID have everyone available.

A lot of the signings initially looked good then 18months later literally every one of them looks a poor choice. From Casemiro dropping worrying levels, to Martinez having multiple long spells out. To Malachia disappearing for a whole year, to the woeful loanees.

It's hard to argue that it'd have been a lot more fun keeping Ole and Ronaldo!

 

[Sandikan]

Mark my words. This time next year we would be discussing how some idiots wanted him out this time last year.

 

[Teja]

You can tell it's been over 48 hours since we last played, with these types of posts being made again.

Yes, exactly. I can't imagine the situation if he stays during the summer. It's so easy to convince yourself that he's doing a good job as long as there's no actual football being played.

 

[EireRed_GS]

Ive always been in the 'give him til the end of his contract' camp.. But then the end of this season looks like theres no way back for him, the players seemingly have just decided they are done playing for him. If they get rid of the manager, I feel like the players have won again. Once they have to knuckle down and work under pressure they just blame everyone else and throw him under the bus, its happened too much now to be a coincidence.

I feel if INEOS are going to be ruthless with the manager, they need to do the same with players. If theres lads have downed tools & are hanging about just to see if the manager goes.. they should bin those lads aswell.

EtH being able to get rid of alot of the clowns/ bad eggs in the squad, and him not being plagued with injures again (surely the same amount cant happen again ) , it should give him a fighting chance next season. If we are still awful, by all means, time for him to go aswell.

But I fear if these players have truly downed tools and clocked off for the rest of the season, and we dont get any thing from these last 3 games, INEOS will pull the trigger.

 

[Mingus]

It's this.
Any team can have a lot of injury problems and it does cause big problems. But we've been walked through in midfield from day 1, when we DID have everyone available.

A lot of the signings initially looked good then 18months later literally every one of them looks a poor choice. From Casemiro dropping worrying levels, to Martinez having multiple long spells out. To Malachia disappearing for a whole year, to the woeful loanees.

It's hard to argue that it'd have been a lot more fun keeping Ole and Ronaldo!

We were walked through in midfield in the Ole and Rangnick reigns too leading to Rangnick saying we needed open heart surgery.

This season we have had fewer options, in defence especially, than Rangnick had. We'd be absolutely delighted to have Maguire and Lindelof available for Arsenal given the circumstances. As it is, we're going to have to play a midfielder or rookie or someone coming back from injury at CB.

No manager in the league would be able to perform miracles with the players we have available.

 

[AndySmith1990]

Ive always been in the 'give him til the end of his contract' camp.. But then the end of this season looks like theres no way back for him, the players seemingly have just decided they are done playing for him. If they get rid of the manager, I feel like the players have won again. Once they have to knuckle down and work under pressure they just blame everyone else and throw him under the bus, its happened too much now to be a coincidence.

I feel if INEOS are going to be ruthless with the manager, they need to do the same with players. If theres lads have downed tools & are hanging about just to see if the manager goes.. they should bin those lads aswell.

EtH being able to get rid of alot of the clowns/ bad eggs in the squad, and him not being plagued with injures again (surely the same amount cant happen again ) , it should give him a fighting chance next season. If we are still awful, by all means, time for him to go aswell.

But I fear if these players have truly downed tools and clocked off for the rest of the season, and we dont get any thing from these last 3 games, INEOS will pull the trigger.

Who are all these clowns and bad eggs, out of interest? Half the squad have only been in the team since Ten Hag joined.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Mark my words. This time next year we would be discussing how some idiots wanted him out this time last year.

Hi Erik!

 

[Irwin99]

• We play well next season but not well enough to challenge for the title. Most probably qualify for the Champions League.
• A few players like Varane, Martial, Eriksen, etc., leave the club.
• One of the new signings performs well, and we think that the culture is changing.
• Rashford scores 20+ goals in the season.
• Players suddenly describe the mood as more positive, and they have found 'smiles on their faces.'
• The subsequent season, we are exactly in the same situation we are now, where the same players are either out of form, injured, or have just given up.

You've identified what i fear will happen and the never ending cycle of the past 11 years or so that people don't seem to acknowledge. When Rashford scores 20 goals next season, or Luke Shaw actually remains available and plays half decent it will all be the previous manager's fault. The season after that however...it begins again. Hopefully that won't be the case but unless there's a culture change or a change in the quality of the players don't be surprised if it does.

 

[EireRed_GS]

Who are all these clowns and bad eggs, out of interest? Half the squad have only been in the team since Ten Hag joined.

We can all use our eyes when watching the players to know who isnt good enough and who cant be arsed. As for all the leaks / toxic elements / player power etc. behind the scenes, im sure theres plenty there , including EtH) who know who they are.

Forget about Ten Hag though, if Utd as a club cant root out the problems mentioned, they'll go nowhere fast. And the same will happen to the replacement. rinse repeat. Id rather we had someone stay and get a go at changing the culture and standards with INEOS

 

[Devil81]

I've swung in the last day or two. Looking at the hard facts he's had a crippling injury list most, if not all would struggle with. His signings haven't worked out for him but I suspect he will have that responsibility taken away from him this summer.

He's also had to contend with so many egos.

 

[AndySmith1990]

We can all use our eyes when watching the players to know who isnt good enough and who cant be arsed. As for all the leaks / toxic elements / player power etc. behind the scenes, im sure theres plenty there , including EtH) who know who they are.

Forget about Ten Hag though, if Utd as a club cant root out the problems mentioned, they'll go nowhere fast. And the same will happen to the replacement. rinse repeat. Id rather we had someone stay and get a go at changing the culture and standards with INEOS

I'm all for binning players who aren't good enough and/or have poor attitudes. But what bothers me is how it's so often a case of blaming one side or the other, like having a couple bad eggs somehow absolves the manager of all blame and gifts him immunity to being held accountable by losing his job.

We have a number of poor players, and a couple who stick out as having bad attitudes, but the manager also stands out as being inept. Seems to me the obvious solution is to remove them all instead of picking sides

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Id rather we had someone stay and get a go at changing the culture and standards with INEOS

Yes...but why should ETH be a part of this?

What's he done to merit being a part of this?

The culture has to change, we all agree on that.

And we all (I hope) agree that we need a new structure: no more "manager" in charge of both recruitment and coaching, but a more modern model where the "manager" is essentially phased out and replaced by a (head) coach responsible for preparing the first team for matches (to put it in very, very simple terms).

In a new structure of this kind - why should we keep ETH (as the head coach)?

(That's a very simple question.)

To be clear: I get the idea that sacking "managers" have done nothing for us. But in this case we wouldn't (shouldn't) sack a "manager" to replace him with yet another "manager". We would (should) sack a "manager" and replace him with an actual head coach (who has limited influence on player recruitment and other aspects of the football operation).

Does it make sense to effectively "sack" ETH as "manager" - and then make him "head coach"?

 

[fps]

What if that wasn't true at all, would your position change? Because keeping Ten Hag most definitely will not mean getting rid of the likes of Rashford sooner.

Yes, it would change things. But I really think he’ll be gone next summer if Ten Hag stays.

 

[fps]

Although you are likely right (ie, there is no perfect option), surely you have to try. Especially as keeping and sacking are really the only two ways forward here. If I was the decision maker I think I’d be trying to create a line on the sand, a complete break with the last season and so I’d get rid, but I admit it’s not a risk free option. Nothing in football is.

We’re in a bad place mate for sure.

 

[Rista]

Yes, it would change things. But I really think he’ll be gone next summer if Ten Hag stays.

Why? He's picked him every time he could, no matter the circumstances. Head coach will not be deciding who is sold anymore either way.

 

[pocco]

That’s what I meant by ‘if we still see fit’.

I’d get behind us appointing him this summer, but other than that, keeping Ten Hag comfortably beats every other option for me.

Well I'm sure you can appreciate that only either keeping Ten Hag or hiring a manager from the Championship isn't going to be agreed upon as a good approach by most people.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Let’s just try something different this time. Players out.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Maybe I’m in a different position from everyone else as at the start of the season I thought we’d struggle for top 8. Even with a fully fit first 11. As a collection of players it’s just not been great planning. Just from watching it’s clear to see that some just either don’t have the ability or intelligence to play at the lvl required of a top team.

Hopefully now with a proper structure we will start to recruit with purpose and thought instead of just throwing money at players to be a band aid.

I just think he deserves another season and want to see where it’s going. Add to the fact there aren’t any stand out options and even if there was no one can fix this without an influx of new players.

 

[Rista]

Maybe I’m in a different position from everyone else as at the start of the season I thought we’d struggle for top 8. Even with a fully fit first 11. As a collection of players it’s just not been great planning. Just from watching it’s clear to see that some just either don’t have the ability or intelligence to play at the lvl required of a top team.

Hopefully now with a proper structure we will start to recruit with purpose and thought instead of just throwing money at players to be a band aid.

I just think he deserves another season and want to see where it’s going. Add to the fact there aren’t any stand out options and even if there was no one can fix this without an influx of new players.

So you rate his transfer dealings so low that you thought our fully fit first 11 was going to struggle for top 8 but you think he "deserves" another season? I'm honestly convinced no other fanbase is like this.

 

[Fortitude]

He's atrocious and people want to waste another season on him?

Unbelievable.

Boggles the mind. What's even more bizarre is him being given more leeway and tolerance than anyone else post-Fergie.

It's like having Nick Leeson look after your bank by now, yet people still want to see how much further into ruin we can be driven.

 

[Revan]

I genuinely think that the only reason in support of not sacking EtH is that all our post-SAF managers have failed, so making changes won't fix stuff. But then, the same we might say for the right-wingers, and I guess people would still want some good player there (after the failures/relative failures of Mata, Di Maria, Greenwood and Sancho).

Maybe, just maybe, everything is gonna click next season and thus by sacking EtH, we will miss a period of glory. Maybe, just maybe, Martial will turn into a world-class striker next season, so by releasing him, we will miss his 50 potential goals. But, I think we have seen enough of EtH (and Martial) to suggest that these things are not very much grounded in reality, and there is an overwhelming chance, heck, there is almost certainty, that they will be very bad next season. EtH simply does not understand EPL, and nowadays, it seems he does not understand football full stop. He is already broken beyond repair when it comes to this club.

He might do well somewhere else, but I do not think he is a big club manager. He'll probably be back in Holland. It kind of sucks, cause he looked very promising, probably the manager I was most confident will make it here.

 

[Pscholes18]

Think he is nailed on to stay no matter what happens. Neville seems to think so and he may have the ear if Ineos. There are really no world beating options available right now to replace, and they will owe him a lot of money if sacked. Jimmy came out earlier this year and said something about how any manager would of struggled under the current conditions at Utd. Next season though, he will be on thin ice.

 

[Acheron]

If it was my team I would want him out and a lot of the players as well. It's a matter of cutting your losses early instead of hanging too long, yet again, on underperforming manager and players.

 

[Rood]

I actually don't think it's that unpopular an opinion

While there isn't a strong 'Ten Hag In' movement, there is a sizeable chunk who would accept him getting another season based on:

- showed he is a good manager last season
- horrific injury list
- worth a try with the new board
- dearth of decent alternatives
- bored of constantly changing manager

 

[Rozay]

Well I'm sure you can appreciate that only either keeping Ten Hag or hiring a manager from the Championship isn't going to be agreed upon as a good approach by most people.

Well it’s my two cents. And I care little for a consensus anyway, many people have no idea what their actual opinion on such things are until someone on the internet tells them what it should be. For me, I can’t see many available that we would appoint because we ‘want them to be our manager’. We would just be appointing from whatever is available, because we need a manager. That fills me with no excitement at all, and it will soon show I reckon. I can’t see options that we really believe in as a club and want to build with, and as a result, whoever we hire will probably be a dead man waiting to be sacked from the day he walks in. Literally a placeholder.

I get why people are unhappy, but perhaps they should start naming managers, and ask themselves if any of them are people that they genuinely and objectively simply want to be United’s manager.