Why do you want Kaka? That desperate?
United in this Summer transfer window
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We are not competing on fees or wages. Not even close for the better talents.
Sure we can beat the teams outside the top 4 to young English players and the likes of Young but until we pay the market rates we will continually miss out on targets like Hazard.
Sure we can beat the teams outside the top 4 to young English players and the likes of Young but until we pay the market rates we will continually miss out on targets like Hazard.
I'd be happy signing a shitty handkerchief at the moment never mind Kaka.
While we are at Everton we may as well bring Gibbo back.
While we are at Everton we may as well bring Gibbo back.
What's the odds we sign more sponsorship deals than players tomorrow
I just can't see all this being down to one man. A club our size wouldn't leave everything to him surely. I do think it would have been easier for Gill to have been around as there seems to have been too much change behind the scenes in one go with no continuity.
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Think we should just gazump Everton and go for McCarthy. Also pay the release clause for Herrera.
Come on then, balls out of the bathwater, who we gonna sign? I think it'll just be Fellaini.
To be fair to Moyes, if we do get a deal done tomorrow at least he's acknowledged and addressed the centre-midfield problem. We haven't got our primary target and no doubt we'll be overpaying but I'd rather that than ignore the issue and move on.
People will say it was obvious he had to, but it's been obvious for years now and we haven't added anything in six seasons. He'll get criticized for this seemingly scattergun clusterfeck approach but if that gets us a midfielder then it's achieved something we haven't in recent seasons.
People will say it was obvious he had to, but it's been obvious for years now and we haven't added anything in six seasons. He'll get criticized for this seemingly scattergun clusterfeck approach but if that gets us a midfielder then it's achieved something we haven't in recent seasons.
I really don't give a feck about overpaying at this stage. The club is big enough and rich enough to take a hit of a few million.
If we don't buy at least one new cm tomorrow then we might as well not bother playing the rest of the season; the title is gone. Without SAF to mask the glaring frailties and inadequacies of this team we don't stand a fecking chance.
Playing under Moyes might not be the most attractive option for potential recruits
The next 23hrs will be exciting -- it will either be alright/meh! or fecking doomsday scenario on the Caf for sure! 
Don't be daft, it's still Manchester United and Moyes has done nothing at all wrong. Don't think they would care at all, why would they?
Considering some other clubs are getting good prices for players that would\could clearly have improved us, but for some reason we've just looked like amateurs. Even if we do get 2 or 3 players today, we all know deep down under we missed out on some good players. I'm sorry but our board is to blame for this shambles. We're Manchester united, and surely that alone should make players sit up and think.
If our strategy was to get me desperate enough to be excited by literally any midfielder signing for us, and fully accepting that we probably won't get a midfielder, then this summer has been amazingly successful for the club.
By any other form of measurement it's been fairly disastrous. Even if we do make a couple signings tomorrow it's ridiculous to leave it this late.
By any other form of measurement it's been fairly disastrous. Even if we do make a couple signings tomorrow it's ridiculous to leave it this late.
I actually don't think we're going to get anyone now.
Suspect we will but not anyone we will get an erection over.
Viagra required summer transfer campaign.. Woody/Moyes will spin it.
Trying not to my hopes up today.
Herrara and Ozil and all will be forgiven
17 hrs left... Woody, work your magic!!
Good thing with our last 2 games of draw and lose, it might wake up the United money men/women that the team do need reinforcement; as other clubs have spent and improved. Also, new manager needs to get support with his own signings.
We don't do knee-jerk. They would have expected that we may end up drawing and losing in these two games, so they won't be panicked into buying someone, or atleast I hope they won't.
I just don't understand how they could leave it to the ginal fecking day... what have they been doing for 3 months? It's amateurish.
It shouldn't be a knee jerk signing, assuming that we should have more on the list than 3-5 players (we have bid this summer); whatnot with United extensive scouts and networks. It may push the money men to be less tight on the purse. Maybe.
Me too.
I'm bemused how if Moyes did really want two centre midfielders. Why didnt we just pay the clause for Fellaini? Are we that tight? I can't believe we let that one go to the last day too.
Some people at the club need to look busy, to justify their big paycheck. It's a syndrome named governmentia-employeetis here in the States.
I know there is a lot of time in this day before you do get the feeling we enter actually get anyone.
Even if we get Fellani and Herrera we will still look stupid. Last minute panic buying. If we really wanted them we'd have paid their release clauses early pre-season, got them in and settled before the season even started. Fellani is even cup-tied now. All over a couple of million when we've talked big all summer about how much money we have and Moyes is allowed to go after whoever he likes.
It's not that far fetched it could be a factor imo. When you lose a manager after so long it could be destabilising, some people might expect us to go through a barren period for a while now, even if it's quite a short one. It happened after Busby. I doubt it'd be anything personal against Moyes, just a desire to wait and see how we cope with the absence of such an important piece of the club's infrastructure. Especially when we're up against oil- backed clubs.
I actually don't think this is a significant factor. But I don't think it's ridiculous if other people do.
I am writing this with around 12 hours of the transfer window left so don’t know the out-come. As it seems we are not signing anyone and I my opinion this is down to mistakes and gambles that date back to summers of 2009…2010 etc….
1)Gambles that didn’t pay off
Unexpected injuries to Hargo and Fletcher, stagnation and fitness issues of Anderson, Pogba leaving have all hindered our long term strategy for CM department. The question which needs to be answered is simply- why didn’t we alter it? Why didn’t we react?
2)No plan B - I said it few years back – that getting out of this shambles will be done through either over paying for top player or by going through transition period with solid players waiting for a special player to emerge. As for now United don’t seem desperate enough to pay over the odds and don’t want to accept lower quality. I sustain that Demeble last summer would have been a good addition.
All the above are part of Gil and Fergie’s heritage. Unfortuanly they left the team with a big issue and in a weak bargaining position. Everyone knows we need a midfielder and will either charge us premium or (in case of domestic rivals) will be reluctant to sell.
3)Pace or lack of it – well it’s obvious that we know shit all bout internal process inside United. But I fail to understand why we took so much time in preparing our bids. I can assume that the owners need to sanction the financial package but how long does it take to do that? I think few days should suffice.
4)Realistic targets – I do appreciate the fact that we want the best players and that but why did we bid for Fabregas? Ok, he is great and that but also seem to be emotionally tied with Barca. Other factors- his position in the team, age, contract situation, wages…..none of it even remotely suggested that he would be interested in leaving… so why the feck did we waste time chasing him? I agree there are few players who tick the important boxes
5)Valuation – yes, 25 mil bid for Fabregas was funny, but improved bid of 30 mil was even more interesting. In the summer where Madrid sign Bale for 80 mil we come up with a valuation which is at least 30% below fair market price.
6)Communication – “no budget”, “first signing needs to be the right one”, ‘urgent transfer talks” –why or why did we come up with such statements? I don’ care if sign Fellaini and then Fabregas… IMO we should have kept it quite and proceed with transfers starting from the base and then going for glamour. Everyone knows it’s easier to sign Fellainins than Modrics of these world. IMO all these statements hindered our chances of getting new players in.
7)Terrible timing- why did we bid for Fabregas a day after Thaigo left? Seriously why? Why do wait until last day of transfer window giving the clubs we want to sign player from little to no time to find replacements? This is a valid point when it comes to Everton- new manger in, trying to stabilize the boat and that… we are not helping ourselves with the timing.
8)Gambles that we don’t want to take- Thiago If this is true that Moyes had his reservation over this guy due to him physicality then I’m lost for words. Silva, Oscar or Hazard are small fecker yet they play well in this league. As many said before- Ozil is to good to miss out- let’s sing him and then try to fit him in. We managed to do so with RVP last summer.
There is still time left, I hope that tomorrow we will have new players who can improve our team. Sadly I don’t see it. On the other hand – it doesn’t surprise me one bit.
1)Gambles that didn’t pay off
Unexpected injuries to Hargo and Fletcher, stagnation and fitness issues of Anderson, Pogba leaving have all hindered our long term strategy for CM department. The question which needs to be answered is simply- why didn’t we alter it? Why didn’t we react?
2)No plan B - I said it few years back – that getting out of this shambles will be done through either over paying for top player or by going through transition period with solid players waiting for a special player to emerge. As for now United don’t seem desperate enough to pay over the odds and don’t want to accept lower quality. I sustain that Demeble last summer would have been a good addition.
All the above are part of Gil and Fergie’s heritage. Unfortuanly they left the team with a big issue and in a weak bargaining position. Everyone knows we need a midfielder and will either charge us premium or (in case of domestic rivals) will be reluctant to sell.
3)Pace or lack of it – well it’s obvious that we know shit all bout internal process inside United. But I fail to understand why we took so much time in preparing our bids. I can assume that the owners need to sanction the financial package but how long does it take to do that? I think few days should suffice.
4)Realistic targets – I do appreciate the fact that we want the best players and that but why did we bid for Fabregas? Ok, he is great and that but also seem to be emotionally tied with Barca. Other factors- his position in the team, age, contract situation, wages…..none of it even remotely suggested that he would be interested in leaving… so why the feck did we waste time chasing him? I agree there are few players who tick the important boxes
5)Valuation – yes, 25 mil bid for Fabregas was funny, but improved bid of 30 mil was even more interesting. In the summer where Madrid sign Bale for 80 mil we come up with a valuation which is at least 30% below fair market price.
6)Communication – “no budget”, “first signing needs to be the right one”, ‘urgent transfer talks” –why or why did we come up with such statements? I don’ care if sign Fellaini and then Fabregas… IMO we should have kept it quite and proceed with transfers starting from the base and then going for glamour. Everyone knows it’s easier to sign Fellainins than Modrics of these world. IMO all these statements hindered our chances of getting new players in.
7)Terrible timing- why did we bid for Fabregas a day after Thaigo left? Seriously why? Why do wait until last day of transfer window giving the clubs we want to sign player from little to no time to find replacements? This is a valid point when it comes to Everton- new manger in, trying to stabilize the boat and that… we are not helping ourselves with the timing.
8)Gambles that we don’t want to take- Thiago If this is true that Moyes had his reservation over this guy due to him physicality then I’m lost for words. Silva, Oscar or Hazard are small fecker yet they play well in this league. As many said before- Ozil is to good to miss out- let’s sing him and then try to fit him in. We managed to do so with RVP last summer.
There is still time left, I hope that tomorrow we will have new players who can improve our team. Sadly I don’t see it. On the other hand – it doesn’t surprise me one bit.
What is happening? This is mental.
Was bored, so I did the maths on our transfer spending since 1st July 2009 (a significant date for obvious reasons). Turns out that due to the sales of Ronaldo and roughly 1700 academy players we've still spent just £40 million 'net' since selling him. We're right proper cheapskates...
WHERE DID THE RONALDO MONEY GO?
Towards Woodward's forhead extension.
United lost Tevez as well that summer. We were linked with Ribery who was regarded as one of the best wide midfilders in the world.
Yet United bought Valencia for £16.M Oberton for £3M Mame Diouf undisclosed an Michael Owen on a free.
United lost the league by a point and did not go beyond round 16 of the CL.
End of the day:
IN:
Fellaini
Ozil
Herrara
Baines
How would that be for a last day transfer window? Think there is at least one too many midfielders in that list + not convinced we need Ozil, especially as Kagawa not getting enough games as it is.
IN:
Fellaini
Ozil
Herrara
Baines
How would that be for a last day transfer window? Think there is at least one too many midfielders in that list + not convinced we need Ozil, especially as Kagawa not getting enough games as it is.
If we signed Ozil that would be a massive feck you to Rooney.
"No you cant go anywhere, and no you arent going to get any games. You dared question our ambition motherfecker? You thought we would move on just because SAF left? Your career is OVER bitch."
"No you cant go anywhere, and no you arent going to get any games. You dared question our ambition motherfecker? You thought we would move on just because SAF left? Your career is OVER bitch."
We've left our christmas shopping till christmas eve and now the kids are going to get some socks.
Hang on... we've not seen our signing that will "send shock-waves through the Premier League" yet.