United in this Summer transfer window

Sarni said:
It's got to a point where I'd be genuinely shocked to find out that we've signed a player, and it's only slightly more than two weeks until the transfer window closes.
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Agree 100% with this. Cannot see a player suddenly coming in now.

Early season, I thought a signing or 2 was guaranteed. Mostly because Moyes and Woodward were making incredible comments.
Now they've very much calmed it down. probably having realised that it's not that easy even for a club like us to get the right player in.
 
Red-Man-Walking said:
We need to chill out I think. The summer we signed Berbatov he was our only signing, made on the last day of the window, after a protracted saga, and could have STILL not joined us due to City's move at the last minute, but for the fact he wanted to play for us. I'm confident something will happen, it may not be somebody we were expecting, but given the recognition Moyes has displayed toward our midfield weaknesses I doubt he wouldn't give 110% to rectify it.
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Memories fade with time, but didn't City actually agree the deal with Tottenham, and Berbatov's insistence on coming to us sealed it late on for us?. Although made Levi vow not to deal with us again?
 
walsh said:
It's not though is it? Managers moan about fixtures every year.
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They might 'moan' in the rueful sense of saying there's a tough run of fixtures coming up, or it's a tough start or end to the season. But implying that the fixture list has been rigged against you - especially when every team has to play every other team twice in the end - smacks of paranoia and a rather weak, unstable state of mind.

If he's like this before the season has even started, then it doesn't bode well as to what he might say or do when the pressure is really on.
 
walsh said:
I think it was more that he was saying he has confidence in the players and the squad as it is, if it comes to that. He's maintained all along that we'll have new players in, I don't see how him showing his backing of the current players acts as some subliminal warning that nobody is coming. Just means that should nothing happen (which you can never be sure of in football) then we're not in bad shape anyway and I wholeheartedly agree with that view.
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That's right. He's not going to come out and say: "feck, we're desperate now - we really need at least two signings, or we're royally fecked next season! Bar Carrick my options in the middle are rubbish!"

He's already said we could do with reinforcements in the middle, but obviously he isn't going to bang on about it, nor give the impression he doesn't trust the players he already has.
 
Red-Man-Walking said:
We need to chill out I think. The summer we signed Berbatov he was our only signing, made on the last day of the window, after a protracted saga, and could have STILL not joined us due to City's move at the last minute, but for the fact he wanted to play for us. I'm confident something will happen, it may not be somebody we were expecting, but given the recognition Moyes has displayed toward our midfield weaknesses I doubt he wouldn't give 110% to rectify it.
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We had a much better team and squad in 2008, right after winning the CL and PL double. And we did not have such an obvious and glaring weakness in the squad, we were merely a little light in terms of striking options.
 
GlastonSpur said:
They might 'moan' in the rueful sense of saying there's a tough run of fixtures coming up, or it's a tough start or end to the season. But implying that the fixture list has been rigged against you - especially when every team has to play every other team twice in the end - smacks of paranoia and a rather weak, unstable state of mind.

If he's like this before the season has even started, then it doesn't bode well as to what he might say or do when the pressure is really on.
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It's very much in Fergie's tradition, actually. Drop a line or two which won't go down well with the authorities, let the players know nobody will do us any favours and that it's up to them to stick it to the league, or the FA, or whoever it may be. Siege mentality, pretty basic stuff.

Fergie wasn't particularly weak-minded or unstable, was he?
 
Chesterlestreet said:
It's very much in Fergie's tradition, actually. Drop a line or two which won't go down well with the authorities, let the players know nobody will do us any favours and that it's up to them to stick it to the league, or the FA, or whoever it may be. Siege mentality, pretty basic stuff.

Fergie wasn't particularly weak-minded or unstable, was he?
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Well he certainly was no Daniel Levy either, was he?
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Fergie wasn't particularly weak-minded or unstable, was he?
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Nah, Glaston's right, it's no wonder Fergie couldn't hack it in the Premier... oh.

Well... yeah, but... Moyes is the one doing it this time. Showing the sort of weak mentality of someone who won't last long in the Premier... oh, yeah, he's been thriving here for ages too, hasn't he.

Back to the drawing board, Glaston.
 
Spiersey said:
United are in serious danger of doing the exact same as what City did last year.
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Slight difference - at least there should be: City have no experience defending a league title. We have some. Not being arrogant - well, not intending to be anyway. It's an objective enough fact. The mistakes City made are classic. We may feck up in one way or another, but we won't do it like blundering novices. There's a reason Moyes was chosen for this job.
 
Brightonian said:
Nah, Glaston's right, it's no wonder Fergie couldn't hack it in the Premier... oh.

Well... yeah, but... Moyes is the one doing it this time. Showing the sort of weak mentality of someone who won't last long in the Premier... oh, yeah, he's been thriving here for ages too, hasn't he.

Back to the drawing board, Glaston.
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Let me get this straight. You actually think it's great that Moyes has said that the fixture list has been tampered with and rigged against United in some secret conspiracy? :wenger:

If AVB had said it I'd be embarrassed.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Slight difference - at least there should be: City have no experience defending a league title. We have some. Not being arrogant - well, not intending to be anyway. It's an objective enough fact. The mistakes City made are classic. We may feck up in one way or another, but we won't do it like blundering novices. There's a reason Moyes was chosen for this job.
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You can't guarentee that. With Fergie you could, but not with Moyes. For what it's worth I don't think you'll be miles off the pace but I reckon you'll be 6 or so points off top, but to say that Moyes ensures those mistakes won't be made is foolish.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Let me get this straight. You actually think it's great that Moyes has said that the fixture list has been tampered with and rigged against United in some secret conspiracy? :wenger:

If AVB had said it I'd be embarrassed.
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What the feck are you talking about?

Why is this guy even on here?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Let me get this straight. You actually think it's great that Moyes has said that the fixture list has been tampered with and rigged against United in some secret conspiracy? :wenger:

If AVB had said it I'd be embarrassed.
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I've bolded the bits of that post that are silly and wrong. I never said I thought it was great, unless the meaning of 'meh' has dramatically changed recently. I'm just not bothered by it either way. And he hasn't said any of those things, don't be ridiculous. He's just having a little gripe, like all the managers of the top clubs do.

Which comes round to your last point - if AVB said it, no-one would be claiming that he was accusing anyone of conspiracy, because why the feck would anyone care enough about Spurs to conspire against them? Managers of the top clubs do it.
 
Spiersey said:
You can't guarentee that. With Fergie you could, but not with Moyes. For what it's worth I don't think you'll be miles off the pace but I reckon you'll be 6 or so points off top, but to say that Moyes ensures those mistakes won't be made is foolish.
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Can't guarantee what? That we will not behave like blundering novices? I think that is pretty much guaranteed, actually. Meaning, for instance, that we won't rest on our laurels like City did. Apart from that, there are no guarantees - there never is, not for any manager.
 
Brightonian said:
... And he hasn't said any of those things, don't be ridiculous. ....
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"I find it hard to believe that's the way the balls came out of the bag, that's for sure."

What's that if not clearly implying the whole thing was rigged against United?
 
GlastonSpur said:
"I find it hard to believe that's the way the balls came out of the bag, that's for sure."

What's that if not clearly implying the whole thing was rigged against United?
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Do you not see the difference between a sarky little jab at the unlikelihood of such a difficult set of opening fixtures, and actually seriously claiming 'that the fixture list has been tampered with and rigged against United in some secret conspiracy'? One is a tongue in cheek little gripe, the other would be RAWKesque raving. The tone of what he actually said is very different to the tone of what you claim he said.

You've ignored the rest of the bullshit that I called you on, by the way. When you throw wild claims around and people call you on them, you should probably acknowledge that they were shite.
 
GlastonSpur said:
"I find it hard to believe that's the way the balls came out of the bag, that's for sure."

What's that if not clearly implying the whole thing was rigged against United?
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Hehe, do you - actually - believe that? That Dave Moyes, well respected (up until the point when he had the audacity to take the United job, at least) manager and otherwise fairly sane bloke, thinks in all seriousness there is a conspiracy against United? Or for that matter that Alex Ferguson believed in such conspiracies? He too would frequently make little remarks about this and that - referees, the FA, the fixture schedule...it's what these people do, it's part of the game at the highest level. Mourinho is at it constantly too.
 
Brightonian said:
Do you not see the difference between a sarky little jab at the unlikelihood of such a difficult set of opening fixtures, and actually seriously claiming 'that the fixture list has been tampered with and rigged against United in some secret conspiracy'? One is a tongue in cheek little gripe, the other would be RAWKesque raving. The tone of what he actually said is very different to the tone of what you claim he said.

You've ignored the rest of the bullshit that I called you on, by the way. When you throw wild claims around and people call you on them, you should probably acknowledge that they were shite.
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I see. A "sarky little jab". You focus on the alleged "tone" of what he said and ignore what he actually said ... words that prompted the PL to refute his implied allegation by saying that "the process is random and above board".

If it was all so jokey and innocent then I doubt the PL would have felt the need to respond in this way.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I see. A "sarky little jab". You focus on the alleged "tone" of what he said and ignore what he actually said ... words that prompted the PL to refute his implied allegation by saying that "the process is random and above board".

If it was all so jokey and innocent then I doubt the PL would have felt the need to respond in this way.
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Alright then, fine. Moyes has cracked up, he's a defeat at Swansea away from being sectioned. SAF must have also been fecking mental, he made several comments along the same lines over the years.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I see. A "sarky little jab". You focus on the alleged "tone" of what he said and ignore what he actually said ... words that prompted the PL to refute his implied allegation by saying that "the process is random and above board".
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No, you're the one ignoring the actual words that he said. He said 'I find it hard to believe that's the way the balls came out of the bag, that's for sure.' If he had wanted to claim that there was some sort of big conspiracy against United, he would have said something like: 'I think there's possibly some sort of conspiracy against United, because Sky need to make as much money off the big fixtures as they can, especially now that they have fierce competition from BT.'

The tone comes from the words. You're deliberately ignoring them to try and suggest he was raving and making wild claims. He wasn't, he was having a moan with a bit of a snide edge to it.
 
Chill out, Ronaldo is coming. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the first 11 tomorrow.
 
RedSky At Night said:
It's been funny as feck so far hasn't it? I've enjoyed the rollercoaster ride and we still haven't signed anyone properly yet (sorry Varela).
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I enjoyed the rollercoaster ride at the time, but we essentially threw up at the end of it, so the memory of it is bad. 2nd of September can't come around quick enough.
 
One of the strangest aspects to this window is the lack of activity throughout the entire club, not just at first team level. Very few players have gone out on loan even though I would have expected a lot to do so, particularly the youth cup winners from a couple of years back that are now kind of stuck in the U21's. There has been no recruitment at U18 level either, with Paul McGuiness commenting on it today "We will, at times, have a very young team in the Under-18s. We've recruited less players than normal for one reason or another which means the Under-16s will definitely get chances to work and fill in, to do their best to develop in the games we've got."

The question has to be what the reasons are. Obviously the change in manager means that all the players have to be reassessed and a possible change in playing philosophy means that the targets need to be re-evaluated, but it seems strange that all activity has completely halted.
 
I would like to know what is the reason behind us not signing a midfielder for the last few windows. Is it that we want a particular type of player and dont want alter the requirments or that the training stuff does not feel we need one. Seriously. We take risk with different players yet we are so reluctant to sign a midfileder. It baffles me.
 
I reckon the window will close without us signing a player. We'll get the "happy with the squad" routine and it'll be back to business. If that's the case, I hope the some of the youngsters are given the chance to play more than the odd game.
 
Moriarty said:
I reckon the window will close without us signing a player. We'll get the "happy with the squad" routine and it'll be back to business. If that's the case, I hope the some of the youngsters are given the chance to play more than the odd game.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't sign anyone I'd seriously question Moyes sanity to take over from Fergie with no money to spend! Ain't going to happen we will be buying I'm 100% positive in this.
 
I think we'll get Fellaini with a day or two left

Martinez' comment s would suggest we've been sniffing
 
Would be delighted now if we sign noone. The squad is ready to improve upon last season. Valencia can only do better, zaha is exciting, young will come back refreshed, we've got Vidic again and Kagawa will have his breakthrough season. Plus i'm froting at the mouth imagining the creativity adnan is going to bring.
 
Lawman said:
I'd be shocked if we didn't sign anyone I'd seriously question Moyes sanity to take over from Fergie with no money to spend! Ain't going to happen we will be buying I'm 100% positive in this.
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Oh, I think he's got the money all right, it's just the players he wants he can't get. No sense in buying just for the sake of it.
 
Kevin said:
Would be delighted now if we sign noone. The squad is ready to improve upon last season. Valencia can only do better, zaha is exciting, young will come back refreshed, we've got Vidic again and Kagawa will have his breakthrough season. Plus i'm froting at the mouth imagining the creativity adnan is going to bring.
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And the midfield? You are a proper Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime, aren't you? First Barry, then Parker, and now you're delighted with signing no one. I assume you're wumming, which is just sad really.

I'm no transfer muppet, but it's clear that we're risking our chances this season if we sign no one.
 
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