Did you miss Alcantara himself saying we never spoke to him? Coupled with us never mentioning him publically? Or are you just choosing to disbelieve that?
United in this Summer transfer window
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Did you miss Alcantara himself saying we never spoke to him? Coupled with us never mentioning him publically? Or are you just choosing to disbelieve that?
Just as you are choosing to disbelieve his father who is his main advisor.
My point is that we are trying to sign a quality midfielder, which is the right fecking idea I would've thought.
We're a tier 2 or even tier 3 club when it comes to the transfer market. Fabregas or mediocrity, in terms of buys this summer I expect.
This must have been the most crushingly boring transfer week ever.
Not a dicky bird about Fibreglass, or anyone else & now this Ronaldo thing rearing its head again.
Not a dicky bird about Fibreglass, or anyone else & now this Ronaldo thing rearing its head again.
Probably because there's been no press conference this week. We'll have to wait until next week before we hear from Moyes. Perhaps he might even update us on the whereabouts of Woody...
Yeah, I genuinely feel we are on par with West Ham and Sunderland in the transfer market, it'd be so much better if we were spending £70m a season.
At this stage of the transfer window I'm rather desperate for us to just sign someone. The "we've a strong squad" talk has already started. We're doomed.
Your tagline befits you.
Not sure how a club that bought RvP and Kagawa last year is in the second/third tier.
We're having a pretty shit Summer so far but that's more so down to our previous manager/board letting the midfield deteriorate so badly that the club are now desperate for a top class one, rather than us being shit in the market.
RVP wanted honours and at his age it would have been a bad move to move to a new league. Kagawa wasn't wanted by any top club (Barca, Real etc). Lets face it, we're only able to sign for players who desperately want to play with us or who are off the radar of the real big boys in the transfer market.
The big boys being 2 clubs
City and Juventus were in for RVP and Arsenal were in for Kagawa. I'd say that were a few more top clubs in for Kagawa, but they dropped interest quickly when they heard news of him wanting to come to the Premier League over any other. We were always his likely destination when that was the case.
You'd think any fan of United would be happy that we go for players that desperately want to join us anyway. Somehow it's made out to be a bad thing though.
I dont think we're third tier. However we struggle against anyone who have more money or/and a bigger history then we do. Now we can go around the ifs and buts + all the ethical issues surrounding money and sports (which is a kind of ridiculous considering that we were one of the very first clubs who brought business into sports) but thats not the argument. I dont fancy our chances whenever our targets are targeted by the likes of Real, Barca, PSG, Monaco, Chelsea, Bayern or Shitty unless the target is either a United player or heading towards the wrong end of his career and is desperate for honours.
Arsenal are a smaller club to ours. They got less history, less money and less honours then we do. Juventus have always been skint and the Serie A is in a financial mess at the moment. Putting current Juventus and Arsenal at our level is an insult to our club
There's hardly any team in the world with richer history than Manchester United. Some may be considered on par but I doubt anyone, except maybe Real Madrid, can say they have a richer history.
Real, AC Milan, Barcelona and Bayern have all won more then we did and they all reside in cities which are more important/classy then Manchester. I dont think that we're third tier in terms of attracting players. However this 'biggest club in the world' think is rawkesque at best. We may be the biggest business in football but certainly not the biggest football club in the world and certainly we dont show this 'might' in the transfer market.
You're an awful whiney bastard, can you see positives in anything this club do?
I see you have no counter argument. Great!
Wow devilish manhandled Cina...
Can you give me proof that there was no team in for Kagawa and RVP other than us?
I can give you proof City wanted RVP so that ruins it already..
Honigstein about Kagawa.
Devilish talking fecking rubbish again.
Yep. The one positive from this transfer window is that Moyes has at least acknowledged that the midfield is under strengthed and needs improving. Fergie just seemed to brush it under the carpet a bit and claim that we were fine in that area of the pitch when we all knew that we weren't.
If we don't end up signing a new midfielder (or two) we'll know that it wasn't for the want of trying.
What?
RvP picked us over City and clearly, as KM said above, other clubs were in for Kagawa.
I had no counter-argument because it's obvious public fecking knowledge that other clubs were after both of those players. You're somehow being negative about two extremely good signings who were both very highly regarded in the footballing word at the time. It's absolutely absurd.
I reckon if we actually did sign Fabregas you'd still say it wasn't anything special because no other club was in for him.
One minute we're blabbing our mouths off, the next nothing at all whatsoever.
How hard are the club trying though? If we were never really in for Thiago why did we feck about until mid-July before conceiving the Fabregas saga? Trying isn't good enough when it comes to the end of the window and you know Phil Jones is going to be partnering Carrick on regular occasions. I don't see Moyes acknowledging midfield strengthening as being a positive, it's plainly obvious and has been for a long time. A positive is rectifying the issue....easier said than done but to get to the end of the window without any reinforcements is tantamount to neglect.
Has there ever been a more reliable source in football then Honigstein? Especially when he puts phrases like 'I Think' and 'You never quite know'.
If Belague confirms what Honigstein said then we can safely assume that its more reliable then science itself.
all i hear is "United havent bought anyone blah blah blah..its embarrasing etc etc"
Arsenal havent bought anyone yet (barring an Under 20 french player), but have been banging on about how much cash they have to spend. Why is there no threads about them?
Arsenal havent bought anyone yet (barring an Under 20 french player), but have been banging on about how much cash they have to spend. Why is there no threads about them?
Read again what I said, maybe you will understand better.
Yeah some one called Honigstein thinks that Real may have been interested although you never know how much they got into the deal. Its quite a reliable source indeed.
If United are third tier (which are not) in terms of transfers then Arsenal are probably fifth or sixth tier.
So don't believe what anyone says because they might disprove your retarded theory. Well done.
Stick to making up stories about SAF Hairdryer and actually suggesting us to buy Micheal Mifsud.
The "deficiency" in central midfield is less likely to be a concern in the Premier League (may be next season though), but in Europe it is an urgent problem if we want to win the CL again soon.
I disagree. Acknowledging an issue is the first step to actually sorting it. However its going to be tough to do so. Quality CMs are rare
Oh FFS, I believe what this Hoggy guy says. If he thinks that Real wanted him (although as he said you never know how far they got) then you just have to believe it.
BTW according to reports we also signed Bebe despite Real wanting him badly. Lightening doesnt strike twice in the same place so we can safely say that in terms of transfers Man United > Real right?
Let's be honest, if as appears increasingly likely that the current squad is the one we'll be using this season, then that's not a disaster. We have done amazing well to win as much as we have in the last decade against two sides with unlimited money - we can't expect to win the league every season when two such clubs are competing with us. The reason we've done so well the last few years is Sir Alex Ferguson. He's gone, so a drop-off is unavoidable.
In Europe then we are miles away, but a good draw in the groups should prevent us repeating the 2011/12 clusterfeck. We're cursed in draws for the domestic cups where we haven't played a non-Premier League side since Palace in 2011 or something, but we could still do reasonably well there if we avoid the sugar daddy teams, or difficult fixtures for us like Liverpool/West Ham/Stoke away. The current squad is good enough for that.
Looking at the squad last season compared to this, there aren't that many changes at present:
It's not bad at all.
In Europe then we are miles away, but a good draw in the groups should prevent us repeating the 2011/12 clusterfeck. We're cursed in draws for the domestic cups where we haven't played a non-Premier League side since Palace in 2011 or something, but we could still do reasonably well there if we avoid the sugar daddy teams, or difficult fixtures for us like Liverpool/West Ham/Stoke away. The current squad is good enough for that.
Looking at the squad last season compared to this, there aren't that many changes at present:
- Scholes is gone (and might not be back) and Fletcher is still not back, but Michael Carrick is incredibly lucky with injuries so has carried the central-midfield for years now - why wouldn't he be able to do that again?
- Vidic has had some problems this summer, but his main injury seems behind him, and Rio is looking in good condition. Evans and Smalling have some questions in regard to fitness, but there's still The Phil Jones, and maybe the addition of Michael Keane. The defence should be our strongest area, and if Keane stays with us this season then it's even stronger than last.
- Fabio is back (for now at least) so that might take a bit of pressure off Rafael after his great season.
- Evra (like Carrick) hasn't been injured at all during his time here, and he had his best season for a while last season.
- Nani and Rooney might still stay - and they might even do so willingly, and want to prove themselves vital to United once again. That might happen.
- Zaha did very well against some of the best players in the Australian, Japanese and Chinese leagues - so that's promising.
- Lingard might also make the step-up; though the absence of Petrucci, Tunnicliffe and Powell (injured?) in pre-season was a little disappointing.
It's not bad at all.
Not to forget that this is will be Ando's year and Fletcher will be like a new signing
Still think it's a bad idea to ban people for REALLY retarded opinions?