United in this Summer transfer window
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Anyone else feeling extremely drained and bored of this whole transfer window and waking up each day to find that once again nothing has happened? Almost indifferent to it now and half expecting to start the season with the squad as it is.
It's a little boring with us having done feck all. But I don't wake up each day looking forward eagerly to positive news. It will come when it has to come. I'll be worried if we haven't done good business 10 days from the end of August.
You're happy for us to be bringing in our first 'real' signings once the season is already underway?
Of course not. Given our opening few games I think really could do with signings before. But if we do sign players late but they are the right signings I won't be too bothered.
Have we bid for Dan yet?
I'm fairly sure we are going to sign Fellani at some point next week and that's it.
if that's the case it will be a massively disappointing window.
Maybe he can be our Yaya Toure?
Am I the only think we don't need many signings this summer? We have some bright youngsters coming through, we only need a strong midfielder to partner with Carrick and to take some weight off the man.
As in do we 'need' anyone to remain in the top 3 for the league? No, we can compete with our current squad and incoming youngsters. However do we need to make considerable signings if we're to compete in Europe? Very much so.
Really we need two CMS as we are very short in that area. We need somebody who can fill in for Carrick but also someone who can finally fill the Scholes shaped hole in our team. Going by the players we've been linked with it seems the latter is the priority. Also, we may want to replace any players we sell. Basically I think you're right though, we really don't need many signings, we just have to sort out cm.
Yeah i'm with you on that , if we get a player or two great if we don't so be it , with Nani hinting that he may stay,this could be a fresh start under a new manager for those players who looked like exiting this season.
This thread is ironic! "United in this summer transfer window" full with 23 pages and no actual progress, except some youngster who was probably as good as wrapped up before Moyes even arrived!
We don't need many signings but I think we should sign two midfielders. One who can defend and one who can attack as if we're a bit weak in that area. And if nani goes, it goes without saying that I think we need to replace him. So 2 signings is what I think should be making. So not many, but they need to be the right ones.
The club have denied themselves the chance of giving DM momentum going into the season. If the Bale deal goes through fees will sky rocket making their jobs even harder.
Ah now, not signing anyone would be extremely poor whichever way you look at it. Do you really think we'll win the league again without new signings? I certainly don't.
There is also the strong possibility that Rooney may leave.
We definitely won't allow Rooney to leave if we haven't strengthened the squad, irrespective of his wishes. It would make no sense at all...
Yup, that's what im expecting as well. Rio and Moyes have hinted at us already having a great squad in the past week, if Fabregas doesn't happen I can see us going with what we have. It will officially be the worst summer ever if that happens.
Not wanting to be a transfer muppet, but given the relative inactivity, thought I'd check in and see what ourselves and our key competitors have done in the past 2 seasons:
Utd: RVP, Zaha, Kagawa, Buttner (Powell, Varela, Henrique, Goss)
Arsenal: Podolski, Giroud, Carzorla, Monreal, Sanogo
City: Rodwell, Sinclair, Nastasic, Maicon (gone), Garcia, Navas, Fernadinho, Negredo, Jovetic (Faour, Dyer, Donyoh)
Chelsea: Marin, Hazard, Oscar, Aspilicueta, Moses, Ba, Schurrle, van Ginkel, Schwarzer (Wallace, Cuevas, T. Hazard)
So in terms of 1st team signings:
United [4], Arsenal [5], Chelsea [9], City [8]
So it's not quite as big a contrast as I had thought. Just feels like we never sign anyone (other than RVP, obviously)
Utd: RVP, Zaha, Kagawa, Buttner (Powell, Varela, Henrique, Goss)
Arsenal: Podolski, Giroud, Carzorla, Monreal, Sanogo
City: Rodwell, Sinclair, Nastasic, Maicon (gone), Garcia, Navas, Fernadinho, Negredo, Jovetic (Faour, Dyer, Donyoh)
Chelsea: Marin, Hazard, Oscar, Aspilicueta, Moses, Ba, Schurrle, van Ginkel, Schwarzer (Wallace, Cuevas, T. Hazard)
So in terms of 1st team signings:
United [4], Arsenal [5], Chelsea [9], City [8]
So it's not quite as big a contrast as I had thought. Just feels like we never sign anyone (other than RVP, obviously)
It would be disappointing if we didn't sign someone, especially a midfielder because its blatantly obvious we need someone (maybe two) there. Given the injury problems we've had with Fletch and Anderson and Cleverley's consistency there's more the reason to identify the right player and move heaven and earth to get him which would significantly ease the burden on what we've already got. In turn that would ease the pressure to correctly develop our young players like Januzaj, Cole and Lingard instead of throwing them in at the deep end and then suffering as a result.
I didn't wanna start a new thread for this, and it seems like a bit of a non-story whereby the agent is gunning for a payrise for his client, but I dunno if anyone knows about this kid, and our alleged 'contact' - Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere. I haven't been online much today.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/8850139/Agent-United-approached-Taider
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/8850139/Agent-United-approached-Taider
I am starting to get a bit impatient now.
Going into the new season with our midfield options is fecking suicide. There needs to be some progress and sharpish. There is an inevitable air of uncertainty at United right now, much more so than the other 2 title rivals. Mourinho has got everyone at Chelsea buzzing, Pellegrini will more than likely bring harmony to City, coupled with the fact he has already done terrific business and could do more before the window is shut. The previous years 10 point gap is nothing right now. It's a clean slate going into the first game which is two fecking weeks away. If we don't add then it's hard to make a case that we are stronger than last year.
I do feel strongly that David Moyes could be an issue when attempting to convince top players to sign for the club. He can preach about United's history and pull (straight from the Ferguson repertoire) but there are multiple clubs who can boast those claims, coupled with the newly minted French clubs and it is harder than ever to snap up the best talent from abroad. It is common to see that big names want to work with the best managers. I think he could have serious issues convincing elite players that he is someone they want to work with. Ferguson was part of the draw for players like Veron, Van Nistelrooy and Van Persie, but Moyes doesn't have the pull of Mourinho or Guardiola, even Pellegrini has worked with big players at Real Madrid. Money also talks and if United cannot offer the highest packages, particularly for young players, then I could see us struggling to sign top continental talent, even more so than we have recently. The domestic market is hardly bristling with brilliance so our options appear limited.
I do feel strongly that David Moyes could be an issue when attempting to convince top players to sign for the club. He can preach about United's history and pull (straight from the Ferguson repertoire) but there are multiple clubs who can boast those claims, coupled with the newly minted French clubs and it is harder than ever to snap up the best talent from abroad. It is common to see that big names want to work with the best managers. I think he could have serious issues convincing elite players that he is someone they want to work with. Ferguson was part of the draw for players like Veron, Van Nistelrooy and Van Persie, but Moyes doesn't have the pull of Mourinho or Guardiola, even Pellegrini has worked with big players at Real Madrid. Money also talks and if United cannot offer the highest packages, particularly for young players, then I could see us struggling to sign top continental talent, even more so than we have recently. The domestic market is hardly bristling with brilliance so our options appear limited.
Calm the feck down.Transfer window quirk #708
Player has interest from "United, Juventus, Real Madrid and Arsenal"
Player signs for Fenerbache.
It's just abysmal management.
Every summer the hope builds of getting a new midfielder, then you end up feeling silly for dreaming the impossible dream.
..That's assuming we don't buy one. Even so, we should've got a few wrapped up by now really.
Every summer the hope builds of getting a new midfielder, then you end up feeling silly for dreaming the impossible dream.
..That's assuming we don't buy one. Even so, we should've got a few wrapped up by now really.
I don't think things have been as bad as we have made out though, we've all been begging for a midfielder since 2007 and in that time we have won a feck load.
I think our tactics should be analysed to the nth degree like Barcelona's were, nobody complained that they were missing wingers\strikers.
Sir Alex certainly had a hand in our continual turnover of trophies. Complete one-off and some of our support have conveniently forgot this. I'm not saying you are one of them Pex, nonetheless, there are few if any managers who could have coped with that midfield and our wingers being in shite form and still win the league at a canter.
You just have to wonder how good we would have been last season if he we had a proper quality midfielder to partner Carrick. I've felt like it's the one major thing that we've lacked for years now and had we bought one before, we would have been much more dominant these last few years, both domestically and in europe.
I still cling to hope we'll pull of some sort of coup before the deadline. Lets be honest, if we sign nobody of note it's been a disaster of a close season... To lose Ferguson was bad enough, and to fail to reinforce an already weak midfield...
I had a dream that we signed Modric.
It's not easy getting the correct players to sign its not football manager be patient lads. I expect Baines to be our first signing followed by a centre mid. Fellaini would certainly be a worthwhile addition although not quite a Fabregas. But I'd be more than happy with the two Everton lads.
Really? I never felt the need for a new midfielder when we had Carrick, Fletcher, Scholes playing at their best and a very promising Anderson.
For me the real need for a quality midfielder started around the time Scholes was declining, Fletcher had his bowl problems and it was clear that Anderson was injured too much to be of any real help which I would put at the 2010/11 season mark maybe one year earlier.
Maybe one could make a point that we should have brought in another young talented midfielder when we brought Anderson in hindsight putting all our midfield hopes on this one talent was the wrong choice but maybe we hoped for some of our academy players to come through big for us.
Actually football manager has improved a lot in that regard over the last couple of years and unless you are a club that has money to burn it's pretty hard signing players that aren't unhappy and are put on the transfer list by their own request.
That aside there seem to be clubs like Bayern for example who get their transfer business done fairly quick and very early on but of course it also depends on which transfer targets you are going for.
My point is in football manager you get the transfers done that day but not in real life it takes a little longer! Especially as the calibre of players we are going for their clubs don't want to lose!
It's hardly a case of abysmal management or suicide going into the season if we fail to sign a midfielder. I think management is doing the right thing by trying to sign a midfielder which we clearly have been trying to do. We've been in for both Alcantara and Fabregas both of which would significantly improve our squad. We were unlucky with Alcantara and we are still trying for Fabregas (though I think this transfer is unlikely). Failing to land Fabregas we have plenty of other options of which I think Modric would be the best. And despite what some people on here think, I would happily take Cabaye and Fellaini. Both would help Carrick shoulder the load. Not to mention Cleverley is definitely not the finished product, I'm confident as he matures physically (it's important to remember that he's been seriously hampered in this department by injuries) and mentally he'll impose himself more on games and become a greater influence. He has the talent without question. He's just short on experience at the moment, but that will come.
Well and my point was that this isn't true anymore. If an opponent doesn't want to sell it will take several bids to for them to even agree and obviously a very high amount of money, almost like in the Fabregas case. On top of that it can take several days before you even get a response to a bid and players can take several weeks before they decide which club to join if they have offers from more than one club or the offer isn't that outrageously good. You can also get turned down by a player after a bid has been accepted if the player for whatever reason doesn't want to play for you.
I'm not saying that FM is exactly like RL but people tend to give this game too little credit in how realistic it actually has become in almost all areas over the last couple of releases.
That aside I know it was piss easy in older version of the game to buy which ever player you wanted so I can understand the FM jokes, hell I have made them myself, I just felt the need to point out that especially FM13 has become fairly realistic in that regard unless you use an exploit or some cheat it's pretty hard to sign good players in this game, just like in real life.
In 2007 we had Carrick, Fletcher, Scholes and we bought the incredibly promising new talent of Anderson and the much admired old one of Hargreaves. Who was begging?
We've now got a 32 year old Carrick and the promising Cleverley. 6 years is a long time.
They did and they bought Zlatan, Villa and Sanchez to try and fix it and they didn't fix it forever. They've now bought Neymar.
Time passes, big red bus rolls on, players leave and new ones have to get on board.