Jeremy loves vegetables, but Boris loves dogs. Oh dear, the British are dog-crazy, only one winner there. I can feel @Penna shifting her vote as we speak.
This is what the NHS Confederation report has to say about it:
And I remember a few years ago when The Sun and Mail put articles up about Corbyn 'dancing' on Remembrance Sunday, cutting out the WW2 veteran he was walking and talking to. Article from a former member about it.The massive bias from the media doesn't help. Look at this for instance.
So if I understand this correctly, there would be pressure for the UK to recognise drug patents for longer than current EU regulations, which would allow US drug companies to maintain their patents for longer which would then cause the NHS to have to purchase more branded drugs than generic drugs if those branded drugs come from US companies ?
Is that correct ??
If so, then it would certainly end up more expensive than the current NHS drug spend, but is hardly an NHS Privatisation when compared to all the other privatised services in the NHS already, such as cleaning, laundry, PFI contracts for hospitals, agency nurses and medical staff, procurement, catering, and the biggest of them all, the UK's GPs and Consultants who are all self-employed and contract / invoice their services to the NHS.
Bringing some of these services back ' in-house ' and paying off those crazy PFI contracts would probably cover the additional cost of purchasing drugs from US companies and more, but I'm open to correction.
NHS Confederation said:On Public Procurement:
In relation to government procurement, the USA’s stated objective is to “increase opportunities for US firms to sell US products and services to the UK”, mirroring existing USA government procurement practices. It would clearly press for as much access as possible to UK public procurement markets, specifying that where any services are excepted this should be “on a negative list basis of the narrowest possible exceptions with the least possible impact on NHS firms”.
The primary consideration for the NHS is always to provide the best possible quality of service for patients while obtaining value for money. NHS services in England (not Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland) already operate on a competitive tendering basis where they deem this appropriate, and can invite bids from USA-owned companies if they so wish. In practice local commissioners do not invite bids for the majority of NHS services as they are considered unsuitable for competitive tendering: it is not cost-effective or in the best interests of patients to go through an expensive and time-consuming procurement process in the absence of a realistic market. Such decisions could be challenged, should the UK choose in an FTA explicitly to open healthcare services to market access by USA companies.
It is debatable how successful the UK would be in extracting reciprocal commitments from the USA given the USA’s stated objective of excluding sub-federal (state and local governments) from commitments, and favouring preferential local arrangements (“Buy America”).
On Sanitary and phytosanitary measures (SPS), and technical barriers to trade (TBT):
Regarding trade in goods, the USA singles out “non-tariff barriers that discriminate against US agricultural goods”. On sanitary and phytosanitary measures (SPS), it refers repeatedly to the obligation to adopt “science-based” SPS regulation (standards, for example, on food, based on scientific evidence of risk), as opposed to the EU’s “precautionary principle” which is more cautious (excluding products where risk cannot be definitively ruled out).
The objectives contain strong wording about “unwarranted barriers” and “unjustified… restrictions or… requirements”. Particularly concerning regarding the UK’s right to regulate are the USA’s intentions to “require the UK to publish drafts of regulations, allow stakeholders in other countries to provide comments on these drafts, and require authorities to… explain how the final measure achieves the stated objectives”.
Similar wording is employed in the section of the summary of USA negotiating objectives concerning technical barriers to trade (TBT), requiring the UK to publish and justify proposed standards, technical regulations and conformity assessment procedures.
The USA also seeks to restrict the UK’s freedom to decide what to require of other third countries in trade agreements, by aspiring to obtain a commitment from the UK not to require third countries with whom the UK concludes deals to align with “non-science based” restrictions and requirements. This is clearly an attempt to prevent the UK maintaining EU standards based on the precautionary principle and requiring its trading partners to adhere to the same standards, with which the USA could not comply.
Public health bodies in the UK have expressed concern that this could lead to lower standards, for example, of food hygiene, than current EU standards.
Fun little exchange:
We asked a hundred members of the British public.But tell me again who the terrorist sympathiser is
Nigel Farage tells Eddie Mair he will not refund dropped Brexit Party candidates
Fun little exchange:
Yeah it's madness. Still heard a few people mention it. They say they don't want to vote Labour because they don't know where the money is coming from. I say it's in the manifesto. They ask what it says there. Surely if it's their issue they should be looking? Obviously they just want it to be an issue. They don't want the answers.Jesus, what a car crash. People rarely seem to pay much attention though, at the last general election there was so much talk about the costings of Labour's manifesto being crazy but little about how the conservatives didn't even bother to cost theirs.
Fun little exchange:
If you thought islamic ray guns were bad just look at what the leader of the opposition is wearing
"islamic jihad scarf"
If you thought islamic ray guns were bad just look at what the leader of the opposition is wearing
"islamic jihad scarf"
Seems like a top bloke.
While Boris bumbles around the country like Orinoco from the Wombles, Jeremy finds himself embroiled in a jazz hands scandal. It's all happening in The Country Formerly Known As Merrie England.
"This is him here"Don't worry I'm sure Laura K and the rest of the BBC will dutifully tell us his background any minute now.....any minute now...
They want to abolish the NHS expenditure cap on prescription drugs. The average American spends $1200 a year on prescription drugs. Do we need anymore reasons beyond that?
While Boris bumbles around the country like Orinoco from the Wombles, Jeremy finds himself embroiled in a jazz hands scandal. It's all happening in The Country Formerly Known As Merrie England.
Don't worry I'm sure Laura K and the rest of the BBC will dutifully tell us his background any minute now.....any minute now...
Thing is why would any UK government agree to this? That's what I don't understand. In any negotiation if there terms from the other side that you cannot agree to you don't have to sign the deal.
A greater PR embarrassment than agreeing to pay substantially more for medicines? I'm not saying it could never happen, but I remain to be convinced.We don't have any real leverage to hold over the US though, do we? The Tories have been talking up potential deals with the US - for them to then fall apart would be a PR embarrassment. That's more likely when you consider Trump approaches political dealings like business transactions in which he has to not only get favourable terms but win outright.
We don't have any real leverage to hold over the US though, do we? The Tories have been talking up potential deals with the US - for them to then fall apart would be a PR embarrassment. That's more likely when you consider Trump approaches political dealings like business transactions in which he has to not only get favourable terms but win outright.
This is the only tweet she has made on this topic, a retweet of this. She's a fecking joke.
I wish Labour had a serious Tony Blair/David Milliband type leader in this election. I think the country is in a really delicate position and needs a proper conversation, and the presence of Corbyn is making this whole thing a bit of a joke.
People who can’t even win leadership elections within their own family = serious electable leader material
I swear centrists live in another fecking universe sometimes.
No affiliation at all.
People who can’t even win leadership elections within their own family = serious electable leader material
I swear centrists live in another fecking universe sometimes.
Genuine question - How do you think Britain got itself into this ''delicate position'' and how can it get out ?I wish Labour had a serious Tony Blair/David Milliband type leader in this election. I think the country is in a really delicate position and needs a proper conversation, and the presence of Corbyn is making this whole thing a bit of a joke.
Genuine question - How do you think Britain got itself into this ''delicate position'' and how can it get out ?