UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%
  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%

  • Total voters
    690
  • Poll closed .
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Does anyone still believe a single word that comes out of Farage's mouth. Don't think he wanted to be humiliated, yet again, in a GE. Losing all those deposits could be costly.

Heard he was offered a peerage which he turned down last week, presumably for services to mendacity.

He is just an attention seeker. I have yet to hear him tell us one really convincing reason for leaving the EU that stands scrutiny.
 
Hopefully that's the end of Farage bring a thing. Bottled it. Couldn't win a seat if his life depended on it the pathetic fecker.
It's the start.

Hes going to be leader of a small party that the Tories rely on for support.
 
It's the start.

Hes going to be leader of a small party that the Tories rely on for support.
I think if Boris wins he will buy farrage off with something like trade ambassador to the USA... Pay him enough to keep him out of UK politics and let him go on fox news as a pundit to further line his pockets ... Give him a title... The yanks lap that shit up... Sir Nigel of brexit or some such tosh
 
:wenger: Remind us all again how many seats Farage has won in his entire career?


As he almost single handedly forced the two main parties into facing up to whether the UK should or shouldn't stay in the EU, and although Blair promised a referendum and then didn't hold one, Farage pressurised Cameron into promising and holding the referendum.

We all know the result and the fallout.

So although he has never been an MP, he's had more influence on UK politics and the UK's future than just about any other politician of his generation.

Doesn't mean I like him and his style, but no denying....
 
It was a planned carve-up from the start, and nobody should be fooled by Cameron's (assumed) naivety, Farage's (alleged) vanity, or Trump's & Johnson's supposedly shifting positions. This is all about money, and even the altered political scene is merely an incidental result.
 
As he almost single handedly forced the two main parties into facing up to whether the UK should or shouldn't stay in the EU, and although Blair promised a referendum and then didn't hold one, Farage pressurised Cameron into promising and holding the referendum.

We all know the result and the fallout.

So although he has never been an MP, he's had more influence on UK politics and the UK's future than just about any other politician of his generation.

Doesn't mean I like him and his style, but no denying....
That is giving him way more credit than he deserves for influencing in any way what was a decades long battle in the Conservative party that was little to do with him.
 
I'll be shocked if they get a single seat.
They are polling on 10% aren't they? Lib Dems got 7% and got 12 seats in 2017

And that was a harder one for small parties to get seats in because it was more polarised
 
Financial Times tweet:

'Election leaflet stats so far:

Out of 865 Labour leaflets & newsletters only 62 feature Corbyn’s picture. (Corbyn by contrast features on 322 out of 760 Tory leaflets).

Out of 760 Conservative ones, 308 bear a picture of Johnson/May.'
https://t.co/Oc91DRWIAv
 
They are polling on 10% aren't they? Lib Dems got 7% and got 12 seats in 2017

And that was a harder one for small parties to get seats in because it was more polarised
Well let's see what happens, like I said I honestly think they are a pointless vanity project and Farage himself won't even stand so it's a total farce. Zero seats is my prediction. Remember UKIP got zero seats and they had no real competition then re: brexit views. Now the Conservative party is essentially UKIP so the brexit party will have even less support.
 
:wenger: Remind us all again how many seats Farage has won in his entire career?

He doesn't need to win seats, that's not his game, he's an outside influencer, or he tries to be. Remember Tony Blairs attempts to get everyone inside the 'big tent', well Farage stays outside such tents, just threatening to pull out all the tent pegs... I think he did win a MEP seat, oh the irony!

Farage's current ploy of reincarnating the Grand Old Duke of York and marching all his Brexit candidates up to the top of the hill, then marching half of them down again, will try the patience of many, even within his own party. However Nigel's gambling that in the final analysis people will not want to risk wasting or throwing their votes away in tactical schemes, but he's got to be hoping that if he gets Labour Leavers to vote Tory in strong Tory areas, offsetting any remain votes going to the Lib-Dems, and Tory leavers to vote Brexit in strong Labour areas where Tories have no hope of winning (as well as some disenchanted Labour leavers) then he will do enough damage to allow Boris through.

Its a risk, but then it his way of doing things.
 
You can pointlessly complain about the papers all you want, the fact is that Corbyn opens himself up to this kind of criticism by existing. You need to replace him with a Labour leader that doesn't exist and therefore can't be smeared. Don't know is doing well in the polls, Labour hire them.

Corbyn opens himself up to being photoshopped to look like he is dancing on Rememberance day and then defamed in public instead of walking and talking to a veteran? No wonder Britain is in the mess it is in if mainstream fakery like this doesn't cause mass outrage.
 


Not even pretending to be impartial anymore.


When Ian Austin made his comment about voting for Johnson, she commented upon it instantly, amplifying its significance and retweeted numerous other things about it. Nick Boles is scathing about Johnson, politically and personally, and hours pass before this is her only tweet on the matter. His words are merely described as ‘quite something’, and it is framed as if an ex-Tory MP condemning Johnson merits the same attention as his dislike of the Labour leader. The lack of subtlety about her clear bias is indeed ‘quite something’

 
Corbyn opens himself up to being photoshopped to look like he is dancing on Rememberance day and then defamed in public instead of walking and talking to a veteran? No wonder Britain is in the mess it is in if mainstream fakery like this doesn't cause mass outrage.

I believe Dyson brought out a new sarcasm detector a few weeks ago at a very reasonable price.
 
That is giving him way more credit than he deserves for influencing in any way what was a decades long battle in the Conservative party that was little to do with him.


Don't agree.

You may be right, of course, just I don't agree, but without Farage ( not his own Tory Party members who were still a majority pro-EU at the time ) Cameron most certainly would NOT have needed to promise to hold a referendum, but this was his only way to stop UKIP winning lots and lots and lots of both Tory and Labour seats at the 2015 GE.

In 2005, way before Farage and UKIP were known to more than perhaps 10% of the UK electorate, Blair would almost certainly have won a large ' Remain ' majority in a referendum.

But as so often, and for lots of other stupid lies and deceit, the blame is squarely on him because Farage exploited Blair's broken promise and a few years later Farage and UKIP were up and running because of Blair - not because of unhappy Tories.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/20/eu.politics6
 
You can pointlessly complain about the papers all you want, the fact is that Corbyn opens himself up to this kind of criticism by existing. You need to replace him with a Labour leader that doesn't exist and therefore can't be smeared. Don't know is doing well in the polls, Labour hire them.
:lol:
 
You can pointlessly complain about the papers all you want, the fact is that Corbyn opens himself up to this kind of criticism by existing. You need to replace him with a Labour leader that doesn't exist and therefore can't be smeared. Don't know is doing well in the polls, Labour hire them.

Mr Corbyn, what are your views on Brexit?
"Don't know"
Right, you're hired!
 
The great gullible masses will fall for it again. Nine years of Tory austerity tasted so good they want another five with added Brexit spice on it.
Many people support small government. Many people are born with a right wing brain, just like you are born gay or born a fish
 
The great gullible masses will fall for it again. Nine years of Tory austerity tasted so good they want another five with added Brexit spice on it.
This is the fear, it's incredible really. The extent of the establishment agenda against Corbyn is shocking though.
 
This is the fear, it's incredible really. The extent of the establishment agenda against Corbyn is shocking though.

Isn't it like that for all Labour leader's though? I remember Brown and Miliband getting very harsh treatment (The Mail's story on Ed's father was particularly despicable).
 
Isn't it like that for all Labour leader's though? I remember Brown and Miliband getting very harsh treatment (The Mail's story on Ed's father was particularly despicable).
I'd forgotten about that now you mention it. I can't imagine wanting your byline on that shitshow.

I could swear you were very pro-Tory before. What happened?
Fair question. I think I was more centre right, but drifted more left as I got older and more comfortable in life -as @Grinner predicted. A combo of Brexit, May, Johnson etc...means I'll never vote Tory ever again.
 
Fair question. I think I was more centre right, but drifted more left as I got older and more comfortable in life -as @Grinner predicted. A combo of Brexit, May, Johnson etc...means I'll never vote Tory ever again.
This isn’t the Tory party. I mean it’s called that....but it’s a long way away from what I think of as it
 
I'd forgotten about that now you mention it. I can't imagine wanting your byline on that shitshow.


Fair question. I think I was more centre right, but drifted more left as I got older and more comfortable in life -as @Grinner predicted. A combo of Brexit, May, Johnson etc...means I'll never vote Tory ever again.

Not a champagne socialist...Schloer socialist?
 
This isn’t the Tory party. I mean it’s called that....but it’s a long way away from what I think of as it
It's certainly an extreme incarnation, with the purging of the moderates. I can't think of one reasonable MP in the party tbh and that cabinet...
 
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