UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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See 1% of Brexit Party are pro-remain - that would be Farage.
'Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats'(!)
So with that day from the Tories and the Labour walk outs I think it's fair to ask if both these cnuts are trying to throw the election?
Nobody wants to be left holding the baby.
Nobody wants to be left holding the baby.
The Tories have had an absolute stinker this week. More than a handful of clangers. Even with the Watson news Labour couldn’t be happier with the start.
Watson leaving is a big story.
But the Tories have had a shocking week. Awful optics.
good post
Brexit and health are the two biggest issues for voters.
Given the question marks over the NHS after Brexit, they're probably going to be inextricably linked.
Mixed for Labour then, concentration on Brexit will go badly for them, but they should gain a lot on the health side.
Brexit and health are the two biggest issues for voters.
Given the question marks over the NHS after Brexit, they're probably going to be inextricably linked.
Brexit will be the clear number 1 issue for people who can actually find the motivation to go out and vote on the day. It's a hot button topic that's turned lots of otherwise ambivalent voters into charged up voters.
Health is one of those perennial issues that everyone 'cares' about in theory, but won't be enough to stir the loins on its own.
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I know. There's been plenty of posts on here from the big lefties saying it should be about everything else instead, but electorally they might be better deciding an honest Brexit policy instead.
What is the dishonest Brexit policy you refer to?
James Cleverly having an absolute shocker across most of the morning shows this morning
Absolutely fantastic clip.
Has Kay Burley redeemed herself in the eyes of the caf? I’ve already seen lots of sharp clips of her in this election.
if puerile and cheap stunts like empty chairing people is seen as an act of redemption then maybe she has.
Perhaps? Or by not even fleshing out what this 'soft Brexit Labour deal' is going to entail, red lines, FOM, single market or customs union etc.
He's still ducking and diving from the issue.
It is a tory policy success in their eyes.
They want to force people away from government support into work or shift social responsibility into the charity sector.
(Just look away from the homelessness, deaths etc.)
Boris refused to be drawn on what he would negotiate with the EU if he was Prime Minister. Only said that he would lead us out with no deal if necessary (a far more stupid idea than putting it to a people’s vote). Tusk and Juncker both went on record to say that May had a deal and there would be no point in negotiating another one. Obviously Boris got a different deal so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Corbyn could also get a deal and I’m sure the EU would be interested in a softer deal.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility of course but trying to boil it down to the simple idea in the tweet below is pretty fanciful and an insult to the electorates intelligence after three and half years of chaos.
We should all know by now that this is hugely complex issue and not the simple one Corbyn and his followers are trying promote. We all should know that the devil is very much in the detail and until that is fleshed out I'm not sure how any impartial observer could perceive the policy as being an honest one.
Boris got the deal the EU offered Theresa May! Yet somehow he’s managed to convince large portions of the electorate he’s some sort of genius for negotiating a ‘new’ deal.
Very much how I feel. Its like saying "How will I climb Mount Everest? Simple, I'll just walk up the side.". Just because you can describe it in a few words, doesn't mean it tells you everything you need to know.
Honest question as i think you're a remainer, would you rather Corbyn went into detail of what he'd try to negotiate if it meant losing the vote of some leave voters?
Are you angry on their behalf because they might not get the brexit they think Labour will deliver?
If there's one thing I'd like this election to move towards.
I'd say I'm a practical remainer rather than an ideological one. In short, on balance I just don't see leaving the EU as being worth the cost.
my position on the Labour policy for Brexit is this:
I think it would be hugely divisive and fail completely to close the issue. I'm against a soft Brexit because I don't think you solve stupid with stupid. We have a really good position in the EU as it is and greatly reducing those terms whist remaining under their control in terms of trade is absurd in my opinion. Have an honest referendum on the issue and after all we've seen in the past three and a half year the outcome would have to be respected.
Corbyn's USP has been styled as him being a different 'new' politician, an honest one, so yes, I expect higher standards from him.
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Ah Steven Pollard. Love his stuff in The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express and The Telegraph.
Can always expect a fair and balanced opinion from him...
I am not a fan of Corbyn but will vote Labour. Jo Swinson looks like she could sell remainers down the river to stop Corbyn getting into No10.
I guess it probably cant be published in an election... but now would be a great time to have the EHRC report come out to have an authoritative independent report on the matter
I suspect if push came to shove she would let corbyn into power so he could sell out the remainers himself (as it would probably implode labour in the long term)
Trust you to magically pop up now
I guess it probably cant be published in an election... but now would be a great time to have the EHRC report come out to have an authoritative independent report on the matter
I don't get this. "Don't vote for this racist...vote for the other racist"?
us blaitites have to stick up for the jews... afterall we will both be in the same gulag if corbyn gets his way
You honestly believe that?
that corbyn will get into power.... nah don't be ridiculous
So what are you worried about
I don’t think it says to vote Conservative? As far as I’m concerned neither Corbyn or Johnson are fit enough to be PM, thoroughly depressing election.
Almost like he might have an agenda you mean?
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