UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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Richard Burgon on QT tonight, on the day the manifesto is announced. Kill me now.
Damn socialists. Always want someone else to do the work.
I'm kidding, please don't harm yourself Unless you're on facebook
I think they are leaving it to the last week of the election. Clearly they are very confident in their offer to the public.
Genuine question: What's wrong with Burgon, never listened to him?
Guess Barry Gardiner wasn't available
It'll be filled with lots of nice sounding things that aren't costed or feasible. A bit like Boris' vision for Brexit.
to be fair the conservatives are putting up Robert Jenrik who I dont think will do a great job though no doubt antisemitism will come up as its one of his big issues and Burgon will be his usual awful self
Chukka is there for the libs and hes generally a decent performer on camera so yeah I think Burgon will be trending at some point tonight / tomorrow in some car crash clip of an answer
Let's just say, at a time where Labour desperately need to inspire confidence, he does the opposite.
That kind of thing shouldn't be allowed - how are voters supposed to make an informed choice?
I guess that’s what they’re trying to avoid
Would you believe what they say in their manifesto anyway?
I updated my details on the electoral register, now as an overseas voter.
The original email response said the application had been sent to my "local" council and I'd receive confirmation or a request for more information as soon as possible.
That was 14 days ago.
I phoned the council on Tuesday for more information, and was told there were no issues with the application. They claimed I was 3 days into a 5-day "cooling off period" and it should be sorted by today.
It's a joke. If my postal/proxy takes this long I'll be lucky to vote in 2024.
The original email response said the application had been sent to my "local" council and I'd receive confirmation or a request for more information as soon as possible.
That was 14 days ago.
I phoned the council on Tuesday for more information, and was told there were no issues with the application. They claimed I was 3 days into a 5-day "cooling off period" and it should be sorted by today.
It's a joke. If my postal/proxy takes this long I'll be lucky to vote in 2024.
Do you have a link?
By attempting to cash-in on people being bored sick of Brexit, he risks people getting bored sick of him mentioning Brexit.
He comes across as someone who would struggle to get your order correct if they worked at McDonalds. He's the Labour equivalent of Liz Truss essentially.
There's several people in the shadow cabinet who do a good job of portraying the policies i just find it odd Labour keep giving him any prominent role. The Tories meanwhile seem to lock half their MPs in the basement so they can't be seen or heard.
Meaning different bullshit to the bullshit that Labour has used I presume.
Who Mr Crystal-Clear himself?
A lot of your figures are wrong, its a lot less than that but you are probably not suited to vote Labour if your concerns are mostly about growth. There are a lot of people who plan just to survive on the daily and this is what the manifesto is aimed at improving in the immediate short term.
Do you just post to increase your count? You're like a Conservative bot just spreading nonsense hoping some of it will stick.
This is from the governments website:
Manifestos aren't there to inform, they're there to DAZZLE!
Of course.
You don't genuinely believe this was a "lone social media wolf" in the Tory digital team do you? It's obviously strategic.
Yes, I've seen that interview too. Do you believe him? Especially given their track record on dishonesty?
Oh they don't want that to happen.
If it's a strategy it's stupid and wrong. I just can't imagine they would be that stupid, it is definitely not working to their benefit.
It shows how low they will stoop. If even Twitter are giving the government of our country written warnings, how much lower can we fall!?
Twitter is acting as our moral compass. Twitter! Just let that sink in!
He's a BBC employee now? It's probably in his contract to be pro Tory now.
What Joey's saying is more or less true though isn't it? If only the Yougov sample is designed with a representative sample in mind, then it's the only one that can have any pretentions to accuracy (I'm guessing he's not just straight up lying that the other polls aren't calibrated to UK demographics).
He has a point though, those other polls are all twitter polls so only from a certain demographic (social media users).
It's completely true. There's genuinely bad stuff coming from the Tory end, like the Standard completely making up a Corbyn quote, so it's maddening to see this polling trope come out yet again.
It would be a shame if being "a Labour man" meant you could only tell the truth when it suited the Labour party, at risk of being labelled a Tory. Not everything has to be divided on party lines.
How does his comment show he's not a Labour man? Understanding why only the YouGov poll is of any actual value is GCSE statistics.
He's completely right, I was making the same point myself a couple of pages back. Good on him for clarifying why outlets were using the Yougov poll.
Quite the opposite. For example, see the recent Priti Patel car crash interview. Recently deleted, edited then re uploaded by the BBC.
Just in case you didn't detect it. My previous post was tongue in cheek!
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