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Let's just buy Bayern and Dortmund. It's the sensible thing to do. It just makes sense. :nervous:
 
We are not going to sign any of those players. The only one is Shaw.

I hope Woodward has another list of players or else it is going to be another quiet summer window.
 
I've got to say, these targets of Van Gaals are pretty unimaginative. Is he only aware of Dutch and Bayern players? Can tell he's been out of the club football loop for a while.

Which targets are these? the stuff made up in random tweets or the two targets Ogdens reporting that we've shown interest in from the time prior Moyes sacking?
 


Completely the wrong way round surely?

We've already bid for Shaw, and according to some we want the Kroos deal done before the world cup.

The other 2 shouldn't even be targets, and I doubt there has even been any moves made on them, so no not "first" at all Mr. Person in gaz's tweet.
 
I've got to say, these targets of Van Gaals are pretty unimaginative. Is he only aware of Dutch and Bayern players? Can tell he's been out of the club football loop for a while.

Only one out the loop is you if you believe those stories.
 
I can't believe how easily some people fall for these tweets.

When a club makes a list of targets they hardly ever sign them all. 1 or 2 at best.

It will be Shaw and maybe (if we are lucky) kroos. Those will be our summer signings.

We might add a bench player or 2. That is it.

Robben, Mueller, Hummels , Vidal etc,. ?LOL

Might as well add Messi to the list while were at it.
 
We should have gotten Strootman lasst season by the looks of things, I also can't see us buying Robben, he's soft as shit and 30.
 
I can't believe how easily some people fall for these tweets.

When a club makes a list of targets they hardly ever sign them all. 1 or 2 at best.

It will be Shaw and maybe (if we are lucky) kroos. Those will be our summer signings.

We might add a bench player or 2. That is it.

Robben, Mueller, Hummels , Vidal etc,. ?LOL

Might as well add Messi to the list while were at it.
It's not necessarily falling for the tweets themselves but rather who's sending out the tweet. Ogden is fairly reliable, gets things more right than wrong and if he thinks we are confident of getting Kroos this summer, you have to take it seriously.
 
Gregory Loannidis soon to dethrone Indykaila from the throne who also going full muppet by adding Fabregas to the mix.

Is Woodward still sitting at the office ? We're bidding the whole market at midnight.
 
I can't believe how easily some people fall for these tweets.

When a club makes a list of targets they hardly ever sign them all. 1 or 2 at best.

It will be Shaw and maybe (if we are lucky) kroos. Those will be our summer signings.

We might add a bench player or 2. That is it.

Robben, Mueller, Hummels , Vidal etc,. ?LOL

Might as well add Messi to the list while were at it.
No, we'll definitely sign a CB after losing both Vidic and Rio. We won't start the season with three injury-prone young defenders as our only options.
 
It's not necessarily falling for the tweets themselves but rather who's sending out the tweet. Ogden is fairly reliable, gets things more right than wrong and if he thinks we are confident of getting Kroos this summer, you have to take it seriously.


Kroos would be our "Ronaldo" signing of the summer. Any other player that we sign will be of lesser quality. Which is why you can eliminate all of those big names from the list.

When is the last time United took away major players from a big club?

Big clubs would never do us any favors.
 
I've got to say, these targets of Van Gaals are pretty unimaginative. Is he only aware of Dutch and Bayern players? Can tell he's been out of the club football loop for a while.

The lack of imagination is the tabloids.
 
No, we'll definitely sign a CB after losing both Vidic and Rio. We won't start the season with three injury-prone young defenders as our only options.


They won't be the big names that you are thinking. These journalist are smoking some good stuff if they think we are going to sign superstars at every position. Either they are making it up or the club is intentionally feeding them bullshit.
 
I can't believe how easily some people fall for these tweets.

When a club makes a list of targets they hardly ever sign them all. 1 or 2 at best.

It will be Shaw and maybe (if we are lucky) kroos. Those will be our summer signings.

We might add a bench player or 2. That is it.

Robben, Mueller, Hummels , Vidal etc,. ?LOL

Might as well add Messi to the list while were at it.

I can't believe the club hasn't hired you as director of football yet. Two targets? really? So LVG wont want to bring in any of his
own players to go along with his ideas? The fact of the matter is your posts on this subject as just as ill informed as those tweets, less so inf act
as some journos on twitter do have sources.
 
Interesting that they say LVG approves our interest in Shaw and Kroos, but the signing that looked most nailed on a few months back, Carvalho, isn't mentioned. Wonder if LVG rates him/has seen enough of him.

Seems to be dead in the water now. Our scouts didn't go to Sporting's last game whereas Liverpool's did.
 
I can't believe the club hasn't hired you as director of football yet. Two targets? really? So LVG wont want to bring in any of his
own players to go along with his ideas? The fact of the matter is your posts on this subject as just as ill informed as those tweets, less so inf act
as some journos on twitter do have sources.

If you had to place money on who we will sign, who would they be? (names please)
 
Kroos would be our "Ronaldo" signing of the summer. Any other player that we sign will be of lesser quality. Which is why you can eliminate all of those big names from the list.

When is the last time United took away major players from a big club?

Big clubs would never do us any favors.

Hehe, clueless
 
If you had to place money on who we will sign, who would they be? (names please)

Oh so you are going from knowing who we will or wont sign to asking me for names via a wager? I think common sense should come into play that there are two much talked about targets in Shaw and Kroos and the fact that Louis van Gaal always brings in a few players when he takes over at a club. Not to mention the fact that you said our only two transfers will be a LB and a CM when he have at least four positions of need to address not least another CB after losing two very experienced ones.
 
Oh so you are going from knowing who we will or wont sign to asking me for names via a wager? I think common sense should come into play that there are two much talked about targets in Shaw and Kroos and the fact that Louis van Gaal always brings in a few players when he takes over at a club. Not to mention the fact that you said our only two transfers will be a LB and a CM when he have at least four positions of need to address not least another CB after losing two very experienced ones.

I said only 2 signings will be stars(from the list). The rest of the signings will not be well known/big names.

Robben Mueller, Hummels, Reus, and all the other players that have been mentioned are pure muppetry. Not even Real Madrid would be successful at signing a list like that.
 
I said only 2 signings will be stars(from the list). The rest of the signings will not be well known/big names.

Robben Mueller, Hummels, Reus, and all the other players that have been mentioned are pure muppetry. Not even Real Madrid would be successful at signing a list like that.

None of those players earn close to what Rooney does and only two of them have been as successful as Rooney or Mata. I think you have cornered yourself because you refuse to believe, due to past experiences, that the club will go after top talent. When in fact it behooves them to go after the best players they can because of the horrible season we have just had. The Glazers/Woodward wont mind spending if it means we can continue making them money by challenging for titles and being in europe every season. Its a different ball game now..theres no Fergie and no Fergies make do with what we have no value attitude anymore
 
I am responding to the list of players in the tweets.

Only Shaw and maybe kroos will be signed. The rest of the big players that have been mentioned will not be signed. I am not saying that we won't sign other players, they just won't be the players that have been mentioned.

A player like Strootman is a real possibility.


And there is nothing wrong with not signing stars at every position. We don't need to do that to improve. I am actually against that kind of squad building.
 
I am responding to the list of players in the tweets.

Only shaw and maybe kroos will be signed. The rest of the big players that have been mentioned will not be signed. I am not saying that we won't sign other players, they just won't be the players that have been mentioned.

A player like Strootman is a real possibility.


And there is nothing wrong with not signing stars at every position. We don't need to do that to improve. I am actually against that kind of squad building.

Ive highlighted the things you cannot possibly know unless you are Ed Woodward so cut it out.

Secondly what makes Reus and Hummels stars but not Strootman. Neither of those are international captains and I imagine Strootmans valuation by Roma would be just as high as Dortmunds would be for those two
 
Ive highlighted the things you cannot possibly know unless you are Ed Woodward so cut it out.

Secondly what makes Reus and Hummels stars but not Strootman. Neither of those are international captains and I imagine Strootmans valuation by Roma would be just as high as Dortmunds would be for those two

The difference is the clubs they play for.

No way in hell Dortmund is going to allow those players to leave. The same goes for the list of Bayern players(not Kroos).

Some people treat transfer windows as if they were a video game and all you had to do was press a few buttons.
 
The difference is the clubs they play for.

No way in hell Dortmund is going to allow those players to leave. The same goes for the list of Bayern players(not Kroos).

Some people treat transfer windows as if they were a video game and all you had to do was press a few buttons.

Money talks, Real Madrid do it to everyone, Barca do it too, Bayern do it to Dortmund regularly so why can't we?
 
The difference is the clubs they play for.

No way in hell Dortmund is going to allow those players to leave. The same goes for the list of Bayern players(not Kroos).

Some people treat transfer windows as if they were a video game and all you had to do was press a few buttons.
You seem to be in a state of denial to protect yourself from being a muppet.

You seem pretty sure we can get Kroos, and I agree but we need to analyze a situation like that and in turn a situation like Mata and RVP which are similar if not higher profile signings.

IF we get Kroos, we would have made a HUGE statement, we would have taken one of the most integral and best players from the Bayern set up against their best laid plans and stuck two fingers up to other clubs. If we get him which is very realistic at this stage we can pretty much lay down the gauntlet on any player apart from the Messis and Ronaldos of this world.

We would have taken a young, in-prime player from one of the worlds very best teams who have a desirable manager to work under who offer high wages.

Taking a player of say Hummels stature is always difficult, the guy bleeds Dortmund but hell know that the grass is potentially greener the same applies for Reus. Basically the market is open, no player is unattainable its a matter of money and prestige both of which we have.

Your correct, there will be a 1st, 2nd and even 3rd choice list, but like you say its not a simple matter of enquiring and if they say "no" we simply give up, no chance. We will come back with a second offer, a third, a fourth we will try everything to get the players that are 1st on that list. Once we get to silly numbers I believe we give up, but keep tabs and this window more than ever those thresholds will be higher. Where as before wed probably go to about 30m without batting an eyelid I think we will seriously look at 50-60m before we give up all hope. If I know that you can be damn sure clubs will.

When you talk in those figures, Robben, Hummels, Reus, Vidal all become very real prospects combined with recent history Mata: 37m a top top player from a rival club. RVP: 24m from a rival club. Fellaini 27m I mention him because thats an insane figure for a player of his relatively bad quality, hes worth 17m max and we simply paid up from a club that this season has been a rival.

We do not operate in the same remits of other clubs, we are in a different league to Chelsea, City we arent a stepping stone to Real, Barca, Bayern. We are the top, the same level as those clubs. We know it and so do potential players one awful season doesnt ruin a legacy or a stature. Kids in Vietnam, Togo, Indonesia have United bed sheets and lunch boxes, United fan clubs Ive seen it first hand.
 

:lol: It was more to show how ridiculous some of the touted players are.. that helps my point..

I don't see more than 2-3 big players top joining us, and I'd hope one is a CM, one a CB, one a LB (If Evra leaves) so perhaps Shaw, Kroos & Benatia and an unknown winger (Dutch of course)
 
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