Are....are we a second tier club?
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We decided not to go for him a few weeks ago, remember? As sad as it is that we're turning down the chance to go for someone like Fabregas, it doesn't make us a secnd tier club.
Lets not pull on that thread...
Yes. Of course. There's two transfers we've not been involved in. We need to get back to the glory days when we'd bring in 78 players a summer under Sir Alex.
...goals were scored tonight we didn't score. Are we now an irrelevance in football?
Because our manager doesn't rate one particular player?
Chelsea just aren't fecking around. Doing what we should be doing.
How will cesc react when Mou calls him out in the press.
We didn't qualify for Europe and have a very unbalanced squad. so in terms of our standing as a team then yes we're miles behind the very best sides and don't have the attraction of playing Champions League. We're going to have to hope that there's a few mercenaries going and that the size of the club and the contract will attract players. My suspicion is we won't get any really outstanding players but 3 or maybe 4 very decent ones. You need to stop being so emotional about transfers though, maybe Van Gaal genuinely doesn't want Fabregas.
No, we are just a club that absolutely refuses to sign proper CM's under any circumstance to address the problem we've had for nearly 10 years now. An utter refusal to address the most glaring problem in the team and 99% of it I lay at Ferguson's door.
13 titles in 22 or so years puts the importance of it in perspective though doesn't it? How do we all get by...we United supporters are so dedicated.Gotta love being a United fan in summer transfer windowsYears and years of disappointment and missing out on the good players or our main targets. I'm amazed we signed Van Persie and Kagawa in 2012 really, though we still missed out on Lucas and Hazard...
Yes but they have the benefit of A) not changing their list of targets just before the summer starts and B) not leaving their choice in potential targets solely up to the manager.
Personally, I'm happy enough to change all our targets if that's the cost of getting rid of Moyes and I'm glad we're letting LVG have full control over who we bring in.
There is a downside to that though and in this case it means a delay in our dealings this summer.
Titles only mean something when you have the best players in the world at every position. At least that is what the muppets seem to believe.
I've said many times, for a lot of fans the last 10 years can be summed up as "crap, outspent by City, didn't sign a midfielder." I say it a lot, sometimes in jest, but a good chunk of fans actually genuinely do seem to think like this.
If a player on van Gaal's shortlist attracts the attention of another club we'll make our move. I'm perfectly calm, and so should you lot be.
Yep. If things don't start happening after the WC then I'll start getting flashbacks to last summer but until then we should chill.
New targets and a WC delaying things. Lack of early signings should be no surprise.
New targets and a WC delaying things. Lack of early signings should be no surprise.
Nobody relevant follows Rafael hernandez, he just gets followers because of the baiting tweets he sends out
We really do have to pull out something like Koke or Schweinsteiger if we are passing up on Fabregas, surely?...
Rafael Hernandez's receives a lot of unjustified criticism. He isn't someone claiming to be 'ITK', but he does seem to have some inside knowledge on Barcelona related transfers. He's not up there with the most reliable journalists, but he holds some credence on matters like this.
Well I hope we do get a holding and a box to box midfielder, both of whom we desperately need.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. Given that the only transfer news we got in the last week was about us wanting to meet his release clause, I think it's Koke we're trying everything.
Sense.
The fans are just miserable. I sometimes wonder why they don't just go support the Real madrids of the world, where their muppetry will be satisfied.
Ian Ladyman does.
We were in discussions with LvG for many weeks. What was Woodward talking to him about? The weather? Considering our situation, an agreed target list should have been a priority.
If there's a proper sense of urgency, and capable people doing the business, transfer negotiations don't have to take very long. Chelsea may have just demonstrated that once again.
On the outside where Roy also plans to use him for the WC and hope he still has the pace to do an adequate job there. If not, then we're probably going to play the 4-4-2 diamond which utilizes a No.10 (Mata) and two strikers up front.
Yes, but the delay isn't necessarily at our end, is it? The clubs or players themselves may be holding up whatever business we're trying to conduct, especially with a WC on.
Whereas who knows how long Chelsea have been lining up, say, the Costa deal? They may have spent months on it before the season even ended.
Maybe you're right and this is us handling things badly (as we did last summer) but I don't think we'll really know either way until after the WC.
Where is Mullers best position?
If he is a winger then I'm all for this transfer, if not then we need to buy elsewhere.
Most of his best performances have come from the right this season, he has literally played everywhere in midfield and up front though.
He seems to be used quite a lot as a false 9, other than that I always thought he is natural AMR. We don't need him.
Well only a week or so left until the World Cup, and Tony nearly got his leg broken. I would certainly be pissed off.
If we really do feel that way our staff handling transfers are high.
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