That's the sort of clear out we should have had last summer but Moyes couldn't be decisive at all. Mind you we all want most of the players on that list gone, I highly we will be successful in offloading even half of that list due to a varying number of reasons such as wages etc.
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That's the sort of clear out we should have had last summer but Moyes couldn't be decisive at all. Mind you we all want most of the players on that list gone, I highly we will be successful in offloading even half of that list due to a varying number of reasons such as wages etc.
£15m on a reserve goalie who is 29 and not very good.
Yeah right.
Yeah right.
That can't be Fellaini, must be Hazard or someone in a wig.
Marshall has come off the back of two very good seasons now.
Ridiculous to claim that he's "not very good".
Ridiculous to claim that he's "not very good".
Keep Zaha and Cleverley but add Buttner and Fletcher to that list and I would be happy.
Nani will stay and do well if he's fit. Young may surprise if he's given the role of left forward as he's got a goal in him. Hernandez is too one-dimensional. Fellaini will improve in the box to box role and possibly ahead of Cleverley for his power. Anderson can't play in any of LVGs midfield roles. Not sure about Zaha yet, needs to work on his touch and brain.
Agreed.
I would honestly be happy to see all of those leave, Zaha aside possibly.
One in the Championship and one in a relegated Premier League side. He's stood out at that level, but he's looked nowhere near a 15 million pound goalkeeper.
He's looked better than Mignolet, who cost Liverpool almost £10 million.
I would also say that he's more dependable than Szczeney, too.
Cleverley, Anderson, Fellaini and young can all do one imo.
Probably wooing investors with a powerpoint presentation on Shaw. And panicking as an aide enters the room and whispers to him that Shaw was just spotted with Mourinho and Abramovich.
Oh that's just complete rubbish. Szczesny made about one mistake all season, whereas I need a giant abacus to count Marshall's.
Hopefully warming up the fax machine.
Marshall smells like the Guzan to Arsenal links all over, just with Szczesny coming off the back of a stronger season. I'd much prefer to keep Sir Chez. £15m is far too much for a squad keeper, anyway.
Szczesny is a better keeper than Marshall. I reckon if there is any grain of truth in this, Arsenal might be interested in Marshall as competition but Cardiff want £15m and the interest will have instantly cooled.
Marshall has produced far more outstanding saves than Szczesny has, if you want to go down that road.
(It's to be expected that a goalkeeper playing for a struggling side has, statistically, a greater chance of making an error than somebody playing in front of a defence challenging for a title. Similarly, they'll have greater opportunities to showcase their shot-stopping abilities.)
All things considered, I believe Marshall to be the more dependable. Arsenal will win nothing with Szczesny as no.1.
Fabianski won them the FA Cup, after all.
Both of these are exaggerations IMO. Mignolet possibly, though he had a fantastic season last year. Probably not Szczesney, though he's made a handful of mistakes again and the jury is still out whether he's good enough to be a top keeper.
Agreed. Where the hell was that all season?!
Doubt if Zaha will ever be as good as Nani.
Pump the brakes. Nani wasn't much of anything until he was about 24. Zaha has time.
It really bugs me how he hasn't been linked away from us once.
There seems to be a feeling among journalists that he is a "solid performer" and safe from the axe.
Conversely, he's not good enough to be linked with a move to any other club because quite frankly nobody wants him.
Nani hasn't exactly produced much the past two seasons has he? Zaha might not develop into a player which surpasses the level Nani was at his peak, but he has had one season at a club in turmoil, does possess talent - despite being very raw - and has youth on his side. Opposed to Nani whos injury problems have derailed his United career and has been far too inconsistent for the part of his United tenure. Like Anderson, we have held on to Nani for too long and it's in the best interests of both parties if we simply sever ties.
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Why are people happy to see Hernandez leave? 
I don't think it's happiness, it's just acceptance. We should let him leave for his own progression, as well as our other strikers - namely Welbeck and Wilson.Why are people happy to see Hernandez leave?
Ancelotti denied this just a couple of days ago.
I love the lad, but he's a technically poor footballer and can't play alone up top. Unless he's happy to be a perennial super sub I'd let him go.Why are people happy to see Hernandez leave?
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You want to see Welbeck and Wilson leave?
Exactly this. I like the guy and he is a good striker, but if his presence here is to the detriment of Wilson or Welbeck's development, I'd rather see him leave. Plus, from the players perspective, he deserves regular football at his age and with his quality and that is something that simply cannot be assured here.
You've mis-read his comment.
He means that Hernandez leaving would give Welbeck and Wilson the space to develope in our first team.
Yep. I love Chicharito, as he is the kind of transfer, player I always loved here. But with Welbeck, RvP and Rooney I just don't see much play time for him next season. Not to mention Wilson, who could be a great super sub next year. I just think it's best for both parties to move on. I think he'd be great in La Liga.
Ahhh I see. Sorry I'm a bit drunk.
If he's right about van Gaal building the midfield around world class then I guess he must be starting from scratch.
He's better than Welbeck and Wilson has barely featured, so idk. But okay I guess.
He's a better finisher, Welbeck offers more in other aspects and Wilson has a higher ceiling, but this isn't really a conversation for this thread, so we'll leave it at that.
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