There's a few players not much older than him who can do the same job as him and also be our left back for the next decade. On the other hand, we can bring in a stand in left back for about £20m less and have him at United for a good while like we did with Evra and Vidic. For £27m+, its not like Shaw is our only option and I'd rather not get shafted here and spend a little more on our midfield targets.
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Chelsea can blow us out of the water on every front. Transfer fee, wages, Champions League, more realistic chance of challenging for trophies, London, better manager (I'm not saying Van Gaal is a bad manager, far from it...), Chelsea have a spot at left-back free, we've just signed our 33 year old left-back up for another season and to top it off, Shaw is a Chelsea fan.
If they want him, they'll get him.
If they want him, they'll get him.
Then let them have him
feck off Chelsea
This club always has to complicate fecking everything
From all reports, we've been up for offering more for Shaw in terms of wages (around £100k) than Chelsea (£60kish).
As for the spot at left-back free, they've had a 24 year old playing there all last season and still may be playing regularly next season. Yes, we've got a 33 year old there, but he won't be seen as a starter.
It is hard to believe that people are biting on this crap. Look at the utter nonsense the majority of these "rags" have dished up recently. Kroos to Utd for £20m was a dead cert! 
They are guessing, probably trying to force a reaction/story. Time will tell, although I do think that Woodward is a lame duck. He managed to get a cup tied player from Chelsea that Chelsea didn't want and we paid full price for him. Add that to last summer and his cv looks shocking.
Meanwhile, worry not until a reputable source gets involved.
They are guessing, probably trying to force a reaction/story. Time will tell, although I do think that Woodward is a lame duck. He managed to get a cup tied player from Chelsea that Chelsea didn't want and we paid full price for him. Add that to last summer and his cv looks shocking.
Meanwhile, worry not until a reputable source gets involved.
He will sign for Chelsea.
Name me these other options.. the likes of Moreno, Rodriquez are still going to cost £15m plus and won't be guaranteed to spend their whole career here whereas with Luke is it very unlikely we'd sell to Chelsea or another English club unless unfortunate circumstances. As for ability only really Ricardo Rodriquez is a better bet than Luke but Wolfsburg don't need to sell.
I would take Van Gaal over Mourinho any day of the week, why? because Van Gaal has shown in his career thus far that he likes to attack and entertain the public in the process. When you win with Van Gaal, the beauty of the way it was achieved is ingrained into your mind.
Players who like to play with flair and creativity would always choose to play under a coach who has a attacking philosophy like Van Gaal, unless they were driven by money.
As much as 'd like to believe all this is crap, the amount of time it's taking us to wrap up the shaw deal is surprising because jt was supposed to be a done deal months ago! Looks like the Thiago saga all over again but with Chelsea getting the player this time..
Southampton don't have to sell either. And you're just assuming Shaw won't leave on account of him being English... He could easily leave on a Bosman or a sugar daddy club abroad or domestically. Real or Barca could come calling as we've seen recently with Bale.
I'm not paid to be a scout for United but those you've mentioned are the well known ones. What about the lesser known ones? Not many of us can claim to know how good Evra and Vidic were when they arrived. Why do we need to spend £30m+ for a player that could last a decade when we can find a player that could be just as good for us for much less and could stay with us for a long time. Shaw is not the be all and end all, by any means. Nor is the the two you've mentioned. We made the mistake of looking at long term with Moyes, we don't have to always look to the future. £30m is ridiculous for a full back and I won't give a toss if he doesn't come here. £15m is the upper end of what we should spend on a full back, still high, but much more sensible.
With Shaw I'm just assuming we wouldn't sell to another English club, of course he could be sold abroad but who knows.
Yes, in an ideal world we'd spend £8m on an unknown guy who turns out to be as good as Evra/Vidic but when was the last time that happened? I have no worries spending that amount of money (which isn't even mine so why care anyway?) on a guy who could be our first choice left back for 10/12 years.
Exactly. So you have to make that same assumption with Rodriguez and Moreno and give them the benefit of the doubt then too...
It isn't your money nor mine, you're right, but it takes money away from our 'warchest' which is better served going towards a midfielder. Left back isn't a priority at the moment what with Evra signing a new contract, obviously it still needs looking at, but for £30m, I'd rather wait a year and see if there's better options out there. There's bound to be a fair few foreign Luke Shaw's in Europe and across the world, we don't have to spunk our money on him just yet, especially if Southampton or Shaw himself are trying to shaft us.
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Good god NO CHELSEA JUST NO
This is a guy I have always found decent, he said he expects us to get Shaw. Used to work at MUTV, huge United fan, still works in football. Last time I saw him say we will sign someone - it was Mata and he was saying that before everyone was on the bandwagon. I have no idea if he knows anything we don't but:
Saw this too:
Saw this too:
The rumor a few days ago was that he was staying as manager of Southampton, now he is heading to Spurs again
The wages thing isn't really true. Well, this season our wage bill is higher than theirs.
If the Shaw thing turns out to be true this will be Hazard all over again. I knew it.
Yeah Joe was very good in Jan. Hoping he is right here.
Seems to be a lot going on at Barcelona today.
Swap deal of Dani Alves + cash and Marquinhos.
Mehdi Benatia’s representative is currently in Spain to negotiate a deal.
Pique signed a new contract as has Alen Halilovic.
Swap deal of Dani Alves + cash and Marquinhos.
Mehdi Benatia’s representative is currently in Spain to negotiate a deal.
Pique signed a new contract as has Alen Halilovic.
Cool heads required but some of the people quoted on here 
I'll believe nothing until confirmed in Tweet form by @Agent_Truth_ITK_Transfer14
I'll believe nothing until confirmed in Tweet form by @Agent_Truth_ITK_Transfer14
Marquinhos and Benatia would be one hell of a defence.
Seems strange that they don't they trust Bartra and dubiously left him out to fit Mascherano at CB. Looks quite composed whenever I've seen him play and TBF him and Pique could forge a good partership over the next 5-6- seasons.
Even if they're desperate to add quality why go for Benatia/ Marquinhos when there are some talented young CBs experienced in La Liga - Laporte and Inigo.
Even if they're desperate to add quality why go for Benatia/ Marquinhos when there are some talented young CBs experienced in La Liga - Laporte and Inigo.
Selling Marquinhos and buying Luiz for 40 million?
Someone at PSG should be losing their job over this.
Someone at PSG should be losing their job over this.
Inigo has been fairly average this season, and Laporte has been linked with Barcelona, but will probably cost astronomical amounts. I think Benatia has been a target for a while now, and he and Marquinhos are more easy to attain in comparison to dealing with Bilbao.
An all-Brazillian defence for PSG then - Maxwell, Thiago Silva, David Luiz and Dani Alves.
That's going to be a pain in the arse to play against on Fifa 15.
Who's gonna replace Dani Alves at right back then? Is Montoya good enough?
Are you seriously using the Mata signing as a negative on Woodward?It is hard to believe that people are biting on this crap. Look at the utter nonsense the majority of these "rags" have dished up recently. Kroos to Utd for £20m was a dead cert!
They are guessing, probably trying to force a reaction/story. Time will tell, although I do think that Woodward is a lame duck. He managed to get a cup tied player from Chelsea that Chelsea didn't want and we paid full price for him. Add that to last summer and his cv looks shocking.
Meanwhile, worry not until a reputable source gets involved.
fecking behave yourself.Montoya is good enough defensively but the problem is he can't match Alves' offensive prowess. Then again not many can TBF buy Montoya is fairly mediocre going forward. Bit like Azpelecueta lite.
About the replacement dunno but Danilo from Porto would fit them nicely. I'd especially love for Barcelona to unsettle Zabaleta and extract him from City. Would be hysterical.
Are you seriously using the Mata signing as a negative on Woodward?
Goodness no! Mata is superb, however I don't believe the deal was anything other than full asking price and certainly not a display of negotiating prowess. As much as I love Mata, I have always wondered whether he was what we needed or simply two inept individuals trying to save face in the transfer market. One has been sacked and one ought to have been.
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Won't be that bad. Alves and Luiz will still be on the half way line by the time you're scoring
Won't be that bad. Alves and Luiz will still be on the half way line by the time you're scoring
Not if you play with Madrid. Play Ronaldo up top with Bale and Di Maria on the wings and you got more speed than that back four.
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