Exactly the chances of us having a long winded summer of epic muppet threads grows substantially with every early rejection.
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I think I'm one of the few who would say no to another CB. I think Smalling, Evans, Jones and Keane would be enough. For this season at least, where a top four finish is the target. If we can keep two injury-free as long as possible and create a partnership in the mould of Merte-Kosc or Cahill-Terry, we'd be in the money. It is a bit idealistic, I agree, but I feel it could happen.
Don't excite me like this.
Absolute bollocks. You think the teams that finished ahead of United are standing still?
You spouted this shite in the jihad against Moyes and now you're stuck with it. But you better be praying United don't put this theory to the test.
Negative news = Must be true
Positive news = Dont get your hopes up, angling for a new contract etc?
Sounds tiresome to be some of you lot
Considering that we only sign a few players every year and get linked with dozens, it's obvious that the probability of a negative news being true is much more than that of a positive one.
I think he'd be great. He's got some character about him and is more versatile than some of our other reported targets. Good age, wouldn't be on mega wages etc.
Somebody said we'll end up going after 2nd tier players, whatever that is, but that's fine with me if they have real scope for improvement and the right attitude.
He's not really said much other than the first Shaw bid was rejected which we don't know whether that was true or not & that LvG doesn't want Kroos which, whether it was that or him turning us down, we're no longer in for him anymore which he was first on. Ogden said Shaw would sign before Jackson said it had stalled, things might have changed..
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It's hell.Negative news = Must be true
Positive news = Dont get your hopes up, angling for a new contract etc?
Sounds tiresome to be some of you lot
Fabregas
Who's next?
I agree, it's horse shit. I honestly believe it helps people sleep at night if they convince themselves of this.
@CantonaGiggs1
Any manager faces a struggle when the team doesn't strengthen each year and this would effectively be a second year in a row without any real improvement. Meanwhile, our rivals will continue to buy...
LVG isn't SAF, or anywhere near it. If we don't strengthen then a CL spot is not at all certain in any way, shape or form.
Any manager faces a struggle when the team doesn't strengthen each year and this would effectively be a second year in a row without any real improvement. Meanwhile, our rivals will continue to buy...
LVG isn't SAF, or anywhere near it. If we don't strengthen then a CL spot is not at all certain in any way, shape or form.
I genuinely think some here wish for failure so they can beat on the anti-Glazers drum and revel in the doom and gloom. Not even June and apparently the second rate options from Everton and Southampton are the best we can hope for in midfield. It's ridiculous and shows a lack of understanding of the importance of image and marketing to the people who own United and need the club to be at the top, not just a "top 4 will do" option like Arsenal's board see them.
Joey Bartons on form ...
The reality of life for United outside the Champions League appears to be starting to bite. This face saving 'not on the list' stuff surely doesn't fool anyone. Hopefully the club have swiftly moved on to more realistic targets.
I said it because I believe it.
We will make a couple of signings(not the ones people expect) that will improve the squad. We will qualify for the Cl again next season. We are a much better club than 7th. Moyes was shite, and that will be obvious to all next season when van Gaal does a great job with this group of players.
We will finish 3rd.
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This was your statement:
United might do a bit better if people like RVP and Rafael actually stay fit.
But to continue with all the same squad faults, and do better that the Liverpool, and Arsenal teams that will be strengthening heavily in the summer?
Bollocks.
Even if he is on the list, there's no chance we can convince a former Footballer of the Year to join us.
Liverpool will not finish in the top 4, we will be better than them. They are not even a concern to me. There are only 2 clubs that are better than United: City and Chelsea.
So we rejected Kroos (or he rejected us, whatever)and Fabregas isn't on LvG's list? this is going to be one long summer.
this is going to be one long summer.Gareth Barry and James McCarthy.
I think you'll be in for a bit of a shock.
Bizarre. I almost wish United made no transfers just so we'd watch the nutters spouting this 'the squad is fine as it is' shite squirm. But then I remember how horrible a season that would mean.
I will go mad if we rejected Kroos and Fabregas to buy a crocked strootman.
Why wait ? Feel free to go mad.
James McCarthy would be a brilliant signing.
We need to get away from the idea that only the established elite is good enough. Juventus got Vidal for 12 million because they took a punt on him. Dortmund got Gundogan the same way.
If we can get a Fabregas right now then great. If not we need to put an end to it and move on. Start looking at players like McCarthy, Strootman, Goretzka etc. Players who don't play for elite clubs but have the potential to step up. Just like we did with Carrick.
We won't sign James McCarthy ffs. Van Gaal will know feck all about him.
McCarthy would have been a decent signing a year ago. He would now cost the best part of £25m and he's worth nothing like that.
I agree completely.
Compared to who? Tell me the type of midfielders we will get for less?
Sky pulled their story about him. I highly doubt he's on LVG's magical list players.
Well we could probably get Herrera for a little more.
I remember CantonaGiggs1 from the newbies. He was talking out of his arse then too.
I trust LVG to get the players he needs, it more the rubbish coming out of the club about getting business done early, although it is still relatively early, so still time. If they are the right players for his system, does it matter if we have heard of them or if they cost a fortune or are a bargain? As long as we play well and get results, does it matter?
This team needs energy and players who want to achieve something, not already have. The latter might just come for a good payday. No good signing a load of old players, younger players with view to longevity.
It's not about getting them for less, if anything id rather pay that bit extra and get a word class player rather than spunking £25m on a good/mediocre player like Mccarthy.
Let's look at some of the names supposedly (according to reports) could be open to a move this summer. Rakatic, Fabregas, Pogba, Kroos and god knows who else, we should be in for that type of player not settling on Mccarthy 2 weeks after the season as finished.
Bottom line is Mccarthy isn't worth £25m and that's what Everton would want. £52m on Fellaini and McCarthy is a joke to be honest.
It is ridiculous though isn't it, they are two of the top midfielders in the world, by all accounts they are available for the right price and we are not interested because we want to pursue some random dutch guys or perhaps some premier league midtablers.
I swear to god Van Gaal wants to win with minimum quality in the side to indulge his ego.The money is there for FFS spend it.Rant over.
Thank you I feel better now.
If we could get two McCarthys for the cost (including wages) of one Fabregas then I'd go for that given the amount of fresh blood needed in the squad. As buying MAta has shown, you can't patch over this squad with a single huge money signing. Major squad turnover is needed. And they don't all need to be 'world class'.
We can be in for those players all you like. It's not happening for various reasons.
@CantonaGiggs1 This team hasn't played consistently well for a good while now, even under Sir Alex at the end it was his winning mentality coupled with RvP pulling the rest of the side out of their lethargy, for all the hate Moyes recieved, when he was sacked the team put in similar overal displays under Giggs, it seems unrealistic to me to expect LvG or anyone else for that matter to come in wave a magic wand and fix all the issues that even Sir Alex could not in his last year(s).
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Not to me it doesn't. I just find some of our fanbase turning their nose up at players like McCarthy to be a bit strange. Liverpool nearly won the league with a midfield containing Allen and Henderson.
The longer we limit ourselves in midfield the more of a problem it becomes.
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