J-Stander
Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
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This kid knows his onions.
I'm glad someone agrees, it isn't naive optimism, its the knowledge that:
A. United are very, very wealthy.
B. The owners of the club are highly intelligent people.
C. Everyone is aware that the sustainment of the club at the highest level is based upon on field success.
D. Everyone and his dog knows the squad is currently a few players short of being able to compete for the Premiership and Champions League.
What do these 4 points equate to? Heavy investment.
It's more probable that LVG has been slow with the process of actually supplying Woodward with the names of defenders that he wants. After all, he did say that he would take his time in assessing the squad. I wish we'd signed more players earlier in the window as well, but van Gaal came in late and the whole process was pushed back.
That only works if the manager listens to given advice. And Moyes listened to so much advice last year didn't he. If the advice is given and ignored then Woodward has to continue the chase even if he knows it's pointless. I just think everyone is gunning for Woodward because he's the easy target.
The only thing is, all these points were the same last summer, and last summer we we're also in the UCL
I don't think that's true, last summer we were after a defensive minded midfielder and left back, but we failed to get either. Considering we finished 7th and the number of departures this year, we’re in different situation now. Only a lunatic can think van Gaal will turn this around with current squad. Last season Moyes got a team of champions.
That we won't sign.Do nor even care. If he signs, meh. Another body in. If he doesn't, there are better players around.
Pessimists wont like it, but they'll find a reason to cry about nevertheless.
What have we ballsed up?You just have to laugh at how we are managing to balls up every transfer target. It will probably take us a year to get him just like it did with Herrera.
What have we ballsed up?
Not having a go at you mate - this is a reply to a comment earlier on and the general propensity of this forum to blame everything that goes wrong with transfers on Woodward. But, for example, Moyes did know Fellaini's early release clause and missed the date, then went back at the last minute and paid a fortune more. That was a classic example of the Manager being responsible but I've seen on this thread it was Woodward's fault when it patently wasn't. I'm just really fed up that we always blame Woodward, and in doing so we can miss those really responsible. Targets are identified by manager - money (and limits on) sanctioned by owners. That's the only point I'm really trying to make.I'm not blaming Woodward, they were both responsible. However to act as if we know he did his job right and Moyes didn't listen to him (when there is no proof of this) is a bit silly.
In fact Moyes latest quotes say that the club we're targeting Ronaldo as a transfer before he even joined the club... make of that what you will. He also said Fabregas wasn't even his target (twas a club target). Anyway I don't believe everything Moyes says so I take it with a pinch of salt.
Fact is Woodward is the common denominator from last summer to this, make of that what you will. The manager has said since the US tour we need defenders, we still haven't signed any since then.
This kid knows his onions.
Last summer we were coming off the back of winning the league by 11 points and being unfairly dumped out of the Champions League.The only thing is, all these points were the same last summer, and last summer we we're also in the UCL
Most likely a more detailed version of this.
Certainly doesn't sound outrageous.So roughly 50m fee and 200k a week on a 5 year deal? He's probably worth it.
So roughly 50m fee and 200k a week on a 5 year deal? He's probably worth it.
Yeah, that seems the likely.Probably combining wages with the fee
edit: as above
So roughly 50m fee and 200k a week on a 5 year deal? He's probably worth it.
Well if people would actually learn their lessons and not get carried away again, we could avoid a lot of the meltdowns that occur on here.It's all gone full circle.
Di Maria, Benatia and Rojo all ON.
All i can think of whenever i read your posts is -What have we ballsed up?