Not really relevant as City and Chelsea were totally different clubs before they had their money injection. Chelsea and City didn't have the money to be as ambitious as they are now. On top of that United was a powerhouse under SAF, Chelsea and Citys ambition first of all was to compete with us and with SAF here that wasn't easy but they accomplished it, their second goal was to eclipse United in the league and since SAF retired they have achieved that aswell. We may have won more than both clubs but we were also in a position were that was to be expected, yet we have let Chelsea and City grow in the league to an extent were they aren't considered as the smaller clubs anymore but atleast as our equals and that was in a period under SAF were we should have stopped that. Ofcourse SAF was a legendary manager and his magic allowed us to remain competitive with a team that was considered not good enough to win silverware by many, unfortunatley now SAF is gone and we have to rely on the team that he has left behind we are clearley seeing Chelsea and City haven't just made up the ground in the last couple of years but have simply eclippsed us.
Ambition is not about the trophies we won in the past under a different manager, it is about the outlook on the future. Again we finished 7th last season. I agree Moyes was the biggest reason of our failed season but it is the club and figures like SAF that made the decision in the first place to put him in charge, which for me was again a sign of a lack of ambition, instead of going for a manager like Ancelotti or Mourinho. Now our only decent response on last season has been to remove Moyes as trainer and hire Van Gaal, but transferwise we are letting all the good experience go and we haven't resolved a single issue in the squad thusfar. As I said our response to finishing 7th has been Shaw and Herrera (I know he ain't a teenager, but I just meant inexperienced and not a big name) for whom we overpaid massively. This again show a lack of ambition in my book.
You really expect us to get back to the top with this squad, you really think we will win the PL or atleast be in the running for it with this squad ? If the answer is no but you expect us to be in the future, you lack ambition, why should we again accept a transitional season, why should we deffer our expectations again by one or two years ? LVG has won alot of title in his first year, he doesn't need as much time as people were willing to give Moyes (god some fans wanted us to give him atleast 3 years to continue messing aroud, talk about a lack of ambition). But he does need better players at the back and in defence, so why in godsname should we wait to get them ?
I for one do not believe this squad is good enough to win the title, I think we'll struggle for top 4 and that isn't good enough for a club like Manchester United. This season should be all about the empire strikes back after such a failure of a season, but it strikes back with Shaw and Herrera and the ambition to get top 4, not very impressive if u ask me, a weak empire, one that is crumbling away.