I think Vermaelen is coming here, sadly.
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Except it's not like that at all, because Welbeck has improved every season and is now an important member of our squad.
With some of the transfers Arsenal have sanction in last few years, RvP, Nasri, Clichy etc, I think this is one the Arsenal fans won't be that bothered about, so if he prefers United I'm sure he'll be allowed to join.
Stays fit for any long period he'll be first choice no doubt, but that's the big doubt in my eyes.
Thought that too. Going on about left backs etc. Wierd.
I'm hoping we sign Vermaelen. He might not be the most desirable signing but I think he could be perfect for the left side of a back three. Good on the ball, good passer and likes to bring the ball out of defence. Plus, if he opts for Barca, we're surely running out of options.
I believe "two years" is the phrase you're looking for here...
Barca can offer a much nicer place to live, the chance to play (and contend for) Champions League, the chance to play with Messi et al and I don't see why they'd be unable to compete with us on wages.
In a straight choice between us and Barca we lose most times tbh, doubly so when we aren't even in Europe.
IMO he's that good. His positioning is far from great for CB. We can do much better.
when he first went Arsenal he was great, and was given the captains armband for a reason, a top player, and a leader, his injuries have knocked him for six, and if we can sort that out we are in business, but like i said it's a big if.
Fact he was holidaying with RVP is probably a bit of a hint.
That simply isn't the case. People raved about his quality in the ball and goal scoring ability but he's never been anything close to great. He's a defender who's average at defending and positionally absolutely woeful. The injuries are just another nail in the coffin.
I know.....Just very wary of saying owt the way Anderson has gone
People went overboard with him because he scored a few goals and looked good on the ball. He's never been a great defender.
I'm surprised he is allowed anywhere near United staff with all his Glazer rants.
All a matter of opinion I guess, but in absence of any other credible, or get-table options, i'll gladly take our chances with Vermaelen.
Obviously they don't read his twitter feed or doubt he would, had another dig, or two earlier, and his recent comments about Giggs were just a bit nasty.
The amount of times that we've been pissed off about a player turning us down for one of the big boys abroad, and the one time we want it to happen we'll probably end up getting them.
What did he say?
Basically what UWS and Red Issue have been saying about Giggs for the last year
To be fair, I think from all the Belgian central defenders that left Ajax in the last few years (Vertonghen,Vermaelen,Alderweireld), Vermaelen looked the most talented. If he sorts out his injury problems, he would be an excellent addition. It's just the fact he is so injury prone which makes me quite reluctant to see him in a United shirt. We already have 3 injury prone defenders in Evans,Jones,Smalling. Adding another one would make little sense. I won't be disappointed if he joins as I believe he'll prove people wrong ability wise but his injuries are a far greater concern and we should seriously consider other options before going in for Vermaelen.
Then again, best case scenario : Vermaelen,Vidal,Herrera,Shaw would be a very decent window for us. Add to that a RWB and it would be close to perfect. I left out Hummels as I think the chances of us getting him are close to nonexistent.
Then again, best case scenario : Vermaelen,Vidal,Herrera,Shaw would be a very decent window for us. Add to that a RWB and it would be close to perfect. I left out Hummels as I think the chances of us getting him are close to nonexistent.
His comments on Giggs were reported by practically every single fanzine throughout last season....It's nothing new and a lot of it did come to fruition
Which is?
Go to his twitter made comments on 30th July, from one of his tweets afterwards i think it's safe to say it didn't go down too well with one fan.
Can't help but laugh when people demanded he be banned
In fairness, I have read some right bile being spouted by this numpty, so I am not surprised at the requests to ban him.
Giggs wants the managers job
Giggs fell out with Moyes very early into his reign as manager
Giggs had an agenda all last season against Moyes
Giggs is not to be trusted.
As I said, it's nothing new. Was in the vast majority of the fanzines last year, with "insider" stories....And as I said, a lot of it appeared to be true
Not sure I fully agree, especially the way this guy put it.
Just read his tweets on Giggs, they're hardly nasty. I personally would like us to have a clean break from the whole class of 92 thing. Giggs taking over in a few years scares the shit out of me.
He came to the fore when he predicted Moyes would go, but since then he feels the need to talk way too much.
Hmmm perhaps.
But, it was widely reported last year that Giggs didn't show for certain meetings and went telling tales...
It is all hear say at the end of the day. We'll never know exactly what went on. I did however, find the whole "we need to find Giggs a role" craic a bit strange towards the end of the season. But that's just me personally
Well I certainly want him to turn us down...
Vermaelen a leader?
Just because he has the armband doesn't automatically make him a great leader, Fabregas and Gallas have both worn the armband for us and I wouldn't call either of them leaders.
Wenger's never made a big fuss about the captaincy so don't take that as a sign of Vermaelen's leadership qualities. His head was one of the first to drop when things got tough for us over the course of a season. I would probably pick Mertesacker, Flamini, Ramsey and Arteta all ahead of Vermaelen when it comes to leadership qualities.
You guys may be getting a good defender but that is about it.
Just because he has the armband doesn't automatically make him a great leader, Fabregas and Gallas have both worn the armband for us and I wouldn't call either of them leaders.
Wenger's never made a big fuss about the captaincy so don't take that as a sign of Vermaelen's leadership qualities. His head was one of the first to drop when things got tough for us over the course of a season. I would probably pick Mertesacker, Flamini, Ramsey and Arteta all ahead of Vermaelen when it comes to leadership qualities.
You guys may be getting a good defender but that is about it.
"Giggsy said he wanted me to be his number 1 defender if he was kept on as manager" - Rio Ferdinand
Scary shit altogether
Exactly. I can't even comprehend how mental that would have been.
LVG has already shown in his short time exactly what is needed. I have a horrible horrible feeling in the back of my mind that he'll sort us out, get us back to where we belong, then Giggs will take over and it will all go to pot again. And it will be a whole lot harder to sack Giggs then it was to sack Moyes.
No doubt handy having a player who can do a decent job in a position if needed, but entering competative games there will come a point we'll have Ashley Young having to defend one on one with the likes of Eden Hazard. I can't see how it's a good idea trying to get away with not playing proper defenders.
Ah, got you. I meant you don't want it to happen i.e. the transfer, as opposed to the turning us down. We are on the same wavelength.
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