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Do Gazzetta have their own source or are they going off Le Mercurio/Chilevision?
I'm sure they have their contacts but I have a feeling lot of the Vidal rumors are coming from his agent rather than the club sources directly
 
You didn't even read it did you?

Yes, and I actually speak pretty fluent German for the record. If you read it properly, the only part actually linked with the Gazetta bit is the alleged price. 'According to GdS, the offer has increased from 43 to 60'.

If it was a complete copied rehash, GdS would in all likelihood be mentioned in the first sentence as happens in the media.
 
I get the concern over our lack of activity as I am a bit antsy myself and I was pretty calm during the World Cup when some were already losing their shit. To try and put a positive slant on things I do think it's possible that we are holding off completing deals until LvG is back and can be the one to greet and introduce the new signings and fully endorse the fact they are HIS choices.



I was hoping this might be the case, I think this probably means LvG sees him as the central figure in the 3 man back line.
 
Thats one way of looking at it man. The other, is that they've seriously smart folk working for them in devising ways to beat the system.

When money's no object to people - they feel they have a divine-right to spend it how they like & f*ck anyone that gets in their way.

Football's not your average industry though, so take comfort in the knowledge that the powers that be (UEFA & FFP folk) will be keeping a close eye on all these types of shenanigans in our game. I dont have any doubts now, that they mean business about sugar-daddy / new-money ownerships killing our game..

That is what makes them a joke, they are not really a proper football club. They will never be able to pull this of, because UFEA has the power to call sponsorship deals and deals like this invalid. They will just put a stipulated value on the transfer.

This will not be the case with Lampard, because he was a free transfer, and I don't see a problem with this transfer.
 
I dont think LvG needs a month to have an idea of who needs and who doesn't fit into his style of play. A month's wait is too late into the transfer window and even he knows it, I think he was just generalizing when he said he needs a month. I think he meant he'll assess his squad over the coming weeks and decide on transfers

Thats what i gathered from what he said, but seeing the intensity in training from him & the lack of any movement in the transfer market - it looks like he's pushing the shit out of the squad to see are they up for it.

He's puttin square pegs in rounds holes & trying to make it fit. Whats the f*ckn point when he's got a bottomless pit of budget to spend on quality players that are already top-class in those positions?

Or is he being so intense just so we can win the Champions Cup Tour thing & the transfers are a side-issue for now?

I'm baffled to see what the plan is at the moment..
 
Yes, and I actually speak pretty fluent German for the record. If you read it properly, the only part actually linked with the Gazetta bit is the alleged price. 'According to GdS, the offer has increased from 43 to 60'.

that article is way too short to be anything other than a click magnet.. It seems more focused on Leverkusen getting a payday if the Vidal deal goes through.

If it were based on solid sources, there'd be a much longer article with more information than what's been written imo.
 


Should we be looking at marquinhos if we can't get Hummels?

There's a few reasons why we shouldn't. Firstly, he's really not that good; there's a reason PSG are looking to offload. Seems like he's regressed from his promising start to his career at Roma. Secondly, the fee being put about is somewhere between €35-45m, he isn't worth that. And finally, he isn't really the CB we need. We are in desperate need of a leader at the back, who has experience at the highest level and can synergise well with our current crop of prospects.
 
Your very standard "I can't bare to be disappointed so I'll tell myself that the worst case scenario will happen" post. I don't even think you believe it.

Trust me I do. I would love to be proven wrong, mind. I went into this Summer privately quite optimistic of big changes, and big signings. I stupidly believed all of Woody's trash talk.
 
Yes, and I actually speak pretty fluent German for the record. If you read it properly, the only part actually linked with the Gazetta bit is the alleged price. 'According to GdS, the offer has increased from 43 to 60'.
Ha ha! Are you for fecking real? The whole story is from GDS. Who are probably just bullshitting based on the El Mercurio lie machine.
You want to say that a German newspaper has some special insight into all this, that somehow carries more weight than all the other crap we've heard?
Or are you just looking for a clap on the back for heroically translating this bum fluff article?
 
that article is way too short to be anything other than a click magnet.. It seems more focused on Leverkusen getting a payday if the Vidal deal goes through.

If it were based on solid sources, there'd be a much longer article with more information than what's been written imo.

Perhaps, but that's generally Bild's style when reporting if you browse their site. Granted it's all still up in the air anyhow and I didn't exactly present the tweet as fact anyhow.

Also the fact that Leverkusen will profit, whilst not an unreasonable suggestion, hasn't actually been talked about (as far as I've read) across other media outlets which suggests there is some novelty/secondary input to the story anyhow.
 
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Thats what i gathered from what he said, but seeing the intensity in training from him & the lack of any movement in the transfer market - it looks like he's pushing the shit out of the squad to see are they up for it.

He's puttin square pegs in rounds holes & trying to make it fit. Whats the f*ckn point when he's got a bottomless pit of budget to spend on quality players that are already top-class in those positions?

Or is he being so intense just so we can win the Champions Cup Tour thing & the transfers are a side-issue for now?

I'm baffled to see what the plan is at the moment..
I think the reason LvG's sessions are so intense is that he wants them to be ready for the new season and also why i don't think we'll make any major buys, cause there aren't any players of that caliber left in the market.

I dont think we can blame Woody either, there just aren't that many top players who fit LvG's needs available now that he has an assessment of the team in hand. Unfortunately because of the WC, I feel we had wait too long to finalize our list of targets and other clubs made their moves quick this time round with Real getting Kroos, Chelsea getting Cesc and Costa in early. Same with Arsenal and Sanchez too
 
Perhaps, but that's generally Bild's style when reporting if you browse their site. Granted it's all still up in the air anyhow and I didn't exactly present the tweet as fact anyhow.

Also the fact that Leverkusen will profit, whilst not an unreasonable suggestion, hasn't actually been talked about (as far as I've read) across other media outlets suggests there is some novelty/secondary input to the story anyhow.
Thanks for sharing the article/tweet.
 
Ha ha! Are you for fecking real? The whole story is from GDS. Who are probably just bullshitting based on the El Mercurio lie machine.
You want to say that a German newspaper has some special insight into all this, that somehow carries more weight than all the other crap we've heard?
Or are you just looking for a clap on the back for heroically translating this bum fluff article?

Yes for real... I'm just reading what's put in front of me. I've never said anything was factual, just given my take on it, whilst you've done well to put many words in my mouth there. It doesn't bother me in the slightest if you agree or disagree, whichever manner you choose to do it in.

For the record, I'm not convinced about this Vidal deal anyhow. I just saw something from a reputable news outlet - whoever their sources are - and posted it. That's all there is to it.
 
That is what makes them a joke, they are not really a proper football club. They will never be able to pull this of, because UFEA has the power to call sponsorship deals and deals like this invalid. They will just put a stipulated value on the transfer.

This will not be the case with Lampard, because he was a free transfer, and I don't see a problem with this transfer.

Agree!

I disagree with the part about Lampard though man. Lamps signed for NYC & now is being loaned to City (Parent club) - c'mon thats gettin around the rules man - a loan move doesnt affect City's FFP ticking off.

That was always the angle City had agreed with Lampard - no way its a chance encounter!

Cant wait for Lampard to get boo'ed the shit out of it by all corners this season..
 
Yes for real... I'm just reading what's put in front of me. I've never said anything was factual, just given my take on it, whilst you've done well to put many words in my mouth there. It doesn't bother me in the slightest if you agree or disagree, whichever manner you choose to do it in.

For the record, I'm not convinced about this Vidal deal anyhow. I just saw something from a reputable news outlet - whoever their sources are - and posted it. That's all there is to it.
Sorry, I'm being pissy again. But your phrase 'the article is legitimate...a deal for Vidal is close' struck me as completely ridiculous when you find it's just a handful of lines referencing GDS. Saying something is legitimate implies a high level of trustworthiness.
 
Sorry, I'm being pissy again. But your phrase 'the article is legitimate...a deal for Vidal is close' struck me as completely ridiculous when you find it's just a handful of lines referencing GDS.

Admittedly I could have clarified that. By legitimate I meant from Bild's own site, itself generally respected/acknowledged for sport in Germany, and with the 'deal close' bit, I was paraphrasing the article!
 
Can someone PM a stream for MUTV? I have searched Google and no luck just keep getting Skysports instead

Much appreciated :)
 
Admittedly I could have clarified that. By legitimate I meant from Bild's own site, itself generally respected/acknowledged for sport in Germany, and with the 'deal close' bit, I was paraphrasing the article!
No worries. Let's hope this 'saga' is resolved soon, one way or the other :)
 
I get the concern over our lack of activity as I am a bit antsy myself and I was pretty calm during the World Cup when some were already losing their shit. To try and put a positive slant on things I do think it's possible that we are holding off completing deals until LvG is back and can be the one to greet and introduce the new signings and fully endorse the fact they are HIS choices.



I was hoping this might be the case, I think this probably means LvG sees him as the central figure in the 3 man back line.

If Jonny can stay fit, he'd be a great Captain for us. Good guy on & off the pitch & is proper United through & through - not to mention our best CB & one of our best players..
 
That is what makes them a joke, they are not really a proper football club. They will never be able to pull this of, because UFEA has the power to call sponsorship deals and deals like this invalid. They will just put a stipulated value on the transfer.

This will not be the case with Lampard, because he was a free transfer, and I don't see a problem with this transfer.

There are some right drama queens on here.
 
I get the concern over our lack of activity as I am a bit antsy myself and I was pretty calm during the World Cup when some were already losing their shit. To try and put a positive slant on things I do think it's possible that we are holding off completing deals until LvG is back and can be the one to greet and introduce the new signings and fully endorse the fact they are HIS choices.

I so fecking hope you're right, when's the latest we are back from America, is it Thursday if we make the final?
 
There's a few reasons why we shouldn't. Firstly, he's really not that good; there's a reason PSG are looking to offload. Seems like he's regressed from his promising start to his career at Roma. Secondly, the fee being put about is somewhere between €35-45m, he isn't worth that. And finally, he isn't really the CB we need. We are in desperate need of a leader at the back, who has experience at the highest level and can synergise well with our current crop of prospects.

He looks very good and PSG aren't looking to offload him. Barcelona want him, but it seems PSG are trying to resist.
 
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