I don't watch Juve loads but from what I've heard from Italians and Juve fans, he's gone way down hill and is pretty average. Anyways, going for the rest of them. Okay, Varane would probably cost 25m or so right now, and maybe Subotic around 20m as he's just coming back from an ACL tear or something like that. The others though are either not for sale at any price (Kompany and Ramos), or would cost £45m+. Weren't there talks of like a 20m bid for him from City, and Roma's owner said something like that isn't even enough for his right leg? Says it all. If you want a top class center back like Hummels or Benatia, and not a youngster with potential (even they are going for ridiculous prices these days though, like Mangala and Marquinhos), we'll have to pay over 40m.Thiago Silva
Varane (personal preference)
Benatia
Subotic
Kompany
Ramos
Chiellini
Now except for Thiago Silva neither of them defenders are going for £40m. Im sorry don't know where you are getting these figure from.
You wouldn't get Varane for anywhere near 25mI don't watch Juve loads but from what I've heard from Italians and Juve fans, he's gone way down hill and is pretty average. Anyways, going for the rest of them. Okay, Varane would probably cost 25m or so right now, and maybe Subotic around 20m as he's just coming back from an ACL tear or something like that. The others though are either not for sale at any price (Kompany and Ramos), or would cost £45m+. Weren't there talks of like a 20m bid for him from City, and Roma's owner said something like that isn't even enough for his right leg? Says it all. If you want a top class center back like Hummels or Benatia, and not a youngster with potential (even they are going for ridiculous prices these days though, like Mangala and Marquinhos), we'll have to pay over 40m.
And what do you mean where am I getting these figures from? From all the reports, stuff like bids being rejected, managers saying no chance, laughing it off, or other similar players going for crazy prices. These days center backs are going to cost a feck load because there aren't many alternatives.
We paid £28.1m for Rio in 2002, so why shouldnt we pay a higher fee (12 years later), for a top-class player right now?
If United want success, we have to try to mirror what we had before with with Rio & Vida & none of these cheap alternatives that arent up to it..
Think he meant defending as a team is easy, as in, as long as you're organised you can do it effectively.Wasn't Vidic cheap though? Can't see us paying huge money for a CB, especially when Van Gaal has come out and said defending is easy
Why would Arsenal want Arbeloa when they've already signed 2 right backs this summer? Bollocks story.
For Varane I just completely made up a number, as I don't remember anyone being linked with him and I don't know how highly Ancelotti rates him, but you're probably right. That just adds to the point though. Unless we go for a relatively unknown player from a poorer club, we'll have to pay loads to get actual quality there and not just Vermaelan or someone like that. Barca signing Mathieu and apparently going for Agger despite having loads to spend kind of highlights the fact there aren't many good center backs out there. Hell even Mangala is apparently going for 35m or something to City and I doubt many on here have watched him more then a handful of times.You wouldn't get Varane for anywhere near 25m
You wouldn't get Varane for anywhere near 25m
He has 3 years left. You're living in 2005 with these prices by the way. We paid £30m in 2002 for Rio Ferdinand. A lot has changed in 12 years as well.£15m? You do know his out of contract next season
Think he meant defending as a team is easy, as in, as long as you're organised you can do it effectively.
Is there not another Vidic hanging around then in the Russian League or wherever. Come on somebody must be an expert..?
He has 3 years left. You're living in 2005 with these prices by the way. We paid £30m in 2002 for Rio Ferdinand. A lot has changed in 12 years as well.
Marquinhos was 35m last summer on the back of one season. Mangala is set to join City for 35m I'm pretty sure, and he's hardly well known or top class currently. PSG rejected a 35m offer from Marquinhos the other day apparently. You say there hasn't been any center backs sold for over 40m, but what center backs have got transferred in the last few years? The ones that went somewhere weren't top class players, they were youngsters with potential or out of favor at their old clubs, like Sakho to Liverpool. There just hasn't been any center backs going anywhere who were in their primes like Hummels is.Mybad.. Must have got muddle up with someone else but still don't think he would be top dolla... around £25m.
Except for David Luiz I have yet to see a defender be sold for over £40m... Thiago Silva was what £30?? Ibra being the more expensive of the double coupe.
I thought that was Rooney with better hair...it's van Gaal.
Is there not another Vidic hanging around then in the Russian League or wherever. Come on somebody must be an expert..?
Indeed. And Klopp even laughed at that fee.I know mirror journalism is poor but how is it two hacks have had the same fee for Hummels in the last week or so? I mean it's not hard to work out that he'll cost more than that even if you are writing bullshit.
Yet his wages still 'back up' a multi-million pound house, several supercars and a trophy wife - probably.Poor Vermaelen, he's everybody's back up. Back up at Arsenal, back up for Belgium, back up target for United, and back up taget for Barca.
Musacchio?Argentinian guy plays for Villareal looks pretty damn good to me, only seen him about four times and cant even remember his name but Im quite surprised Barca havent sniffed around him from what Ive seen at least. They have had some good Argentines at that club as well like Riquelme, Sorin and one of my favourite defenders every time I saw him he looked quality and seemed so under rated just like Kohler years ago was Rodiriguez, shocked to see recently he is still palying after a fair few injuries for Fiorentina....any Italian football fans able to say what he is like nowadays?
Why on earth is Bakkali going for so cheap to Atletico?
Guarantee that if he ends up going to Liverpool it'd be about £20million
Personally, no.Would you lads consider goal.com a reliable source?
Scary that their bullshitting fantasy nature isn't common knowledge to every single person on the planet.Would you lads consider goal.com a reliable source?
I once had an argument with the Goal UK assistant editor on twitter as they said we bid for Otamendi on deadline day last summer. Obviously never happened which is why I said they constantly talk a load of bollocks, to which he said they have "changed their sources" and are "trying to move away from that image"Would you lads consider goal.com a reliable source?
Would you lads consider goal.com a reliable source?
He has a serious attitude problem apparently.
Wasn't Vidic cheap though? Can't see us paying huge money for a CB, especially when Van Gaal has come out and said defending is easy