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Must mean they're looking to push out one of Cazorla or Podolski, right?
Cazorla's been strongly linked with a move to Atletico Madrid, so that'd make sense.
Quintero would be wasted there, he needs game time.
And there was a bit of noise about a Podolski tweet saying his next destination was Sevilla, or something like that. In any case, he'd be a great player to replace either.
He would be, yes. Would also be interesting to see what's the fee, as we all know how Porto are when selling young, talented players abroad.
You guys can talk all you want about Chelsea, I think Arsenal is having an outstanding transfer window. A proper DM and they'll be a side hard to beat next year.
Oh goody and we're still twiddling thumbs. Pfffft this is just last summer repeated except we were forced to buy two players early on With Evra off and Fellaini. Good stuff Woodward another brilliant talent mopped up, maybe by the end of the window Coleman will still be left?
They have bought some really good players and done it early for once. Are they not bringing a striker in though?
Coleman would be a brilliant signing. You're so hysterical about transfers, give it a day and you'll be back spouting some guff about all these amazing signings we're going to bring in.
Nice, level headed and objective post there, well done
Is it not worth taking into consideration that the players I mentioned all played under a far superior manager, worked with a far superior coaching staff, and especially in the case of Anderson had a far longer length of time to produce these stellar performances that had you swooning?
Yes, the fee was higher than we paid for some of the other 'flops' I mentioned, but fees are generally higher nowadays (especially in the last couple of years!)and if we're honest we could have had him for less had we not been at the mercy of Dithering Dave.
We also bought him as a means to shore up our awful midfield, when he is in fact a number 10, and would certainly have performed better there as we have seen he is capable of with Everton/Belgium.
As for his 'performance' against Bayern, and especially the infamous run out of bounds, all we've heard this pre season is how last year they hardly trained with the ball, and were effectively ran to death every session. How surprising is it that as a result both individually and as a team these kind of mistakes happen.
Was the run any worse than a winger who literally could not cross a ball to save his life? A CM player who couldn't tackle or pass? Strikers who had about as muchg chance of scoring as Mr Magoo without his glasses? It's doubtful.
Yes, he was a shit signing, but he was an injured player played out of position, I'm not sure what anyone expected. Maybe with a season with a decent coach and decent training under his belt he could have succeeded, we'll possibly never know. It's not exactly ridiculous to rate him over some of these other less than illustrious names though IMO.
Although I get what you are saying, what you are saaying is just proving the point of what a bad signing he was....are you simply trying to say him being so bad wasnt all his fault? This may be true as he was/is an average player with none of the qualities we should have been looking for, none of his good qualities fit our style of play, he is a different type of number 10 of which we have many of, he was over paid for because we missed the deadline of his release clause going up, he was signed by a manager who supposedly knew him and he was one of our biggest ever transfers fees.....just about everything about the transfer was totally awful, all be it not his fault. Comparing him to Anderson who was superb in his first season at the club, Veron who was also superb in the first few months and then a host of very cheap buys IS inconcievable however.
Is this guy an AM?
Ozil, Cazorla and Wilshere are our options for that position.
Why are we buying this kid?
We need a striker and DM much more than another midfielder.
I totally disagree, he will within 3 months be a starter and longer term a star for Arsenal. If we didnt already have so many number 10s I would love him here. A pretty quiet world cup, but one of the best young players in the world for me. Quintero and Sanchez would be two unbelievably good signings for them.
Probably because he's a very good talent?
Although as we've seen with Vidal, the South American reporters hardly reliable.
This. Shit would never stick to that man.
Everybody and everything is to blame before he is. Everybody knows a Woody.
He is a top talent but yeah, he is a AM and more of a future prospect at this stage.
Odd you would buy him at this stage for him the price Porto would inevitably want. Though he would be a very good acquisition probably for the future.
He'll be starting ahead of Ozil in 3 months ? I am not sure he'd be a regular starter at Porto even in 3 months.
He is a excellent prospect but you are overrating his readiness.
Quintero will cost 20 million euros apparently. Steal.
Never seen him play, wilshere is only a year older than him so if this is true Wenger must have the latter earmarked for a different position with this kid being groomed to take over from Ozil
20m euros seems to be the reported price and it doesn't seem like much.
If there is any truth to this, ie the deal is as close as these journalists claim, then I expect it to be on the BBC/Sky Sports over the weekend, seeing as he's supposed to be signing by Monday.
Don't know if Wenger isn't planing to use Sanchez there.
He is a number 10 and for me potentially one of the best in the world. Id sign him in a heartbeat for us if we didnt already have so many and he is potentially a better player than all your other options, definately potentially better than all three have been for you the last couple of years. Watched him closely after he was linked with us before going to Porto in COlumbia under 19s world cup I think it was, player of the tournament and he also played for Porto just after moving there against you in a pre-season friendly and ran the game. I would be jealous, you have already made the signing of the summer.....Quintero would be the second best signing of the summer as things stand personally
Who would he replace after 3 months? Özil, Walcott, Sanchez, Wilshere, Cazorla? Don't make me laugh. He wasn't a regular for Porto last season, if I recall it correctly, how should he manage to do that at Arsenal with more quality in his position?
DON'T worry, we're obviously just waiting for the tour to end before announcing any deals...
Like others have said, he's really not a midfielder. Anyways, he was one of my least favourite players before we signed him, and I was always against him coming. A dirty player who just isn't very good at anything other then route 1 football. Last season just made my dislike for him worse.Aye great news another midfielder gone
Maybe he will need to adjust to the culture but the guy has played in Italy and Portugal already at a young age and in terms of talent he IS ready. You may be correct but apart from not playing in the premiership he is more advanced in development than Januzaj to give an example for me. And as good as Ozil is, why wouldnt he, Ozil has played down the flanks and has hardly been brilliant either. Ozil, Sanchez and Quintero could all play in the same side behind a striker with Ramsey and Wilshire behind them.....with a decent striker in front, thats going forward a team to rival anything in the premiership for sure
Blackouts? Is that his way of signing he is slightly thick at times or is there a medical issue?
Totally agree, I got slated by many for slagging him off when we were linked with him, never was and never will be a Utd player in terms of quality and simply as he isnt the right type of player for us, which I kind of feel sympathy to him for. Not at all surprised he looks like being on his way, Fergie never would have signed him and I have no doubt LVG doesnt see how he would fit into his side either.
I'm thinking he means dips in form/inconsistency.
I get waves of pessimism, but then I keep thinking we're on tour. AND there's no way in hell that Manchester United sells or retires that many players without replacing them. We have to have deals in place, I think I'd be more shocked at our transfer business this summer than last years feck up if we don't buy anyone else.DON'T worry, we're obviously just waiting for the tour to end before announcing any deals...
Quintero is really quick and has a nice left foot. Haven't seen more than that to say. Arsenal hardly need a 10, though. Not a good move for him at all.
It just cannot be bravado for a man in Woodward's position to make such massive claims only a week or 2 back. You just don't do that. That's the main hope we cling to. That and realising any idea of playing 3 centre backs in a formation, when you only have three senior centre backs would be an incredibly risky practice. Especially considering all three of them usually have a long period out a season. Often at the same time.
It is just my opinion as I (quite obviously) really rate him. He is a number 10 as I said though, nearly every player you have mentioned normally plays either side of a number 10.
If you want me to talk about the othe rplayers you have mentioned Ozil has under performed, Walcott is shit, Sanchez is the signing of the summer, Wilshire I would echo the sentiments of Scholes: fantastic potential and talent but what is he 24 now and he has had injuries but he was a better player when he was 19 he has been average when has has played for ages now and Cazorla is a really good little player but he blows hot and cold. Time will tell and maybe Arsenal need strengthening in other areas more than his position but I think signing one of the best young talents in the world (in my opinion) would be great business for Arsenal and yes I genuinely believe he will be a star player for Arsenal whether that takes him 3 months or a season.
Hope August is a super and mental month for us. Can see Fellaini, Nani and Chich all leaving. That would be 8 first team players that have left in one window. That must be unprecedented.
Walcott isn't shit. He's a fantastic outlet who will provide not only a different dimension to an attack but also a decent stream of goals from out wide.
I rate him as well, that wasn't in question. It would be a good move for Arsenal, but IMO not a good move for Quintero's career since he needs to play regularly at his age, something he won't get at Arsenal. If he's patient, alright, but there are better destinations for him and just staying at Porto with his new coach would be more beneficial. I agree about Wilshere with Scholes, too. Still, Wenger is going to trust Özil, he'll probably play Sanchez and Walcott alongside him, so Quintero's best chance getting into that team regularly would be playing out of position. I just don't see it. They have Rosicky, Gnabry and Oxlaide-Chamberlain on top of that, there's really no need for him. They could loan him out though.
Maybe LVG wasn't lieing when he said he wants to have a look at the squad and will wait till the end of the tour. But IMO he's realised we really doo need to buy now
Didn't see it posted, wasn't he heavily linked (and still is?) with a £10-15m move to Barcelona?
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