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As much as i see Kevin in national team i can only say that he is great player already.
 
I think ideally we need Lallana + one of Sanchez, Markovic or Shaqiri. I'd be disappointed if we only managed to get one of them.

You're not getting Sanchez. Other clubs can offer much more financially than Liverpool.
 
You're not getting Sanchez. Other clubs can offer much more financially than Liverpool.

Champions League though, unless it is ridiculous taxless Monaco-esque money then the very best players will choose champions league football.

I say this in relation to us potentially competing for his signature. I am sure a fair few clubs will sniff around him.
 
You're not getting Sanchez. Other clubs can offer much more financially than Liverpool.

I don't think we will get Sanchez unless Suarez leaves. My point remains though, I would be disappointed if we didn't bring in a winger on top of Lallana.

I think we can better Juventus though in terms of wages though.
 
Are you people serious? fecking hell. I'd rather the morons in here who blame Woodward for us being linked to players would piss off before he does. He's a fecking Chief Executive, not a director of football and not the club's owner. He's purely in charge of negotiating transfers, he is not responsible for our transfer strategy or our list of targets. Get that through your thick skulls.
It'll be the papers who are linking us with these players, they have to write some transfer speculation.
 
Come on now, it's over. I had Spain to go quite far in this tournament too, like many others.
 
I don't think we will get Sanchez unless Suarez leaves. My point remains though, I would be disappointed if we didn't bring in a winger on top of Lallana.

I think we can better Juventus though in terms of wages though.
I thought he prefer a move to Juve or is that a rumour?
 
:lol: They were doomed from the moment he wrote that article

Kiss of death that man !

Comes to united we have a shit season.
Everton have a wonderful season
Moyes statue outside anfield and their season goes tits up
He picks the safest bet on the world cup and they crash out in the groups.
 
I think he meant Fellaini.. No one acknowledges Woodward signed Mata around here..

Well, you're taking "novelty" in a negative sense - he was a player that we did not need in terms of the position. I would call it luxury, however, i see the sentiment behind "novelty".

As for Woodward, one decent signing out of plenty of mistakes last summer does not redeem him. By all means provide a balance to the argument but the guy has A LOT to prove.
 
As for Woodward, one decent signing out of plenty of mistakes last summer does not redeem him. By all means provide a balance to the argument but the guy has A LOT to prove.

Give him time to prove it then. For all we know he maybe working on deals behind closed doors and just spoon feeding the media outlets different stories, to try keep the actual deals private.

It's better to judge him when the transfer window has finished.
 
Well, you're taking "novelty" in a negative sense - he was a player that we did not need in terms of the position. I would call it luxury, however, i see the sentiment behind "novelty".

As for Woodward, one decent signing out of plenty of mistakes last summer does not redeem him. By all means provide a balance to the argument but the guy has A LOT to prove.

Well I kind of feel for Woodward. It's since turned out that Moyes veto'd most of the transfers we had lined up. See Herrera deal and Moyes value comments on it.
 
Well I kind of feel for Woodward. It's since turned out that Moyes veto'd most of the transfers we had lined up. See Herrera deal and Moyes value comments on it.

I dont like Woodward, however, you are correct that Moyes has to take a fair share of blame last summer too. As for Herrera - Moyes wanted him and Woodward screwed it. That simple.
 
Give him time to prove it then. For all we know he maybe working on deals behind closed doors and just spoon feeding the media outlets different stories, to try keep the actual deals private.

It's better to judge him when the transfer window has finished.

Im judging him on what he has done so far. He's had 2 full windows and i would say failed spectacularly is putting it mildly.

Of course this summer hasnt even started and we will see what happens. One things for sure, where Moyes was happy to publically back Woodward, LVG will not.
 
I dont like Woodward, however, you are correct that Moyes has to take a fair share of blame last summer too. As for Herrera - Moyes wanted him and Woodward screwed it. That simple.
Really? Why would he do so when he payed around the same money (well 3m less) for Fellaini? The only thing it comes to my mind is that eh said to Moyes to choose from one of them and Moyes chose Fellaini. The truth being spoken, that isn't a bad thing considering that it is a bit risk to pay 60m for 2 very unproven (in the top level) midfielders. I rate Herrera highly but there isn't any guarantee that it would have worked. Having another overpayed big signings would have send us in all kind of trouble.
 
I dont like Woodward, however, you are correct that Moyes has to take a fair share of blame last summer too. As for Herrera - Moyes wanted him and Woodward screwed it. That simple.

Wrong.

"The stuff about Herrera, we made an offer for £23m and we were never going to go to the buy-out clause," Moyes told reporters.

"All the rubbish that was talked about that - with people going in, they were never working on behalf of us. Never at any time did we increase our offer."

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Moyes insisted yesterday the pursuit of Herrera ended because he simply considered the £30.5million fee too high, saying: ‘I really liked the player and still do. We were trying to do a deal but I just thought the buy-out figure was the wrong valuation.’
 
Wrong.

"The stuff about Herrera, we made an offer for £23m and we were never going to go to the buy-out clause," Moyes told reporters.

"All the rubbish that was talked about that - with people going in, they were never working on behalf of us. Never at any time did we increase our offer."

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Moyes insisted yesterday the pursuit of Herrera ended because he simply considered the £30.5million fee too high, saying: ‘I really liked the player and still do. We were trying to do a deal but I just thought the buy-out figure was the wrong valuation.’

Yeah but, er, Woodward hired Moyes. So there.
 
Wrong.

"The stuff about Herrera, we made an offer for £23m and we were never going to go to the buy-out clause," Moyes told reporters.

"All the rubbish that was talked about that - with people going in, they were never working on behalf of us. Never at any time did we increase our offer."

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Moyes insisted yesterday the pursuit of Herrera ended because he simply considered the £30.5million fee too high, saying: ‘I really liked the player and still do. We were trying to do a deal but I just thought the buy-out figure was the wrong valuation.’

Moyes in supporting new Chief Exec shocker. What was he going to do - blame him? No chance.
 
Well, you're taking "novelty" in a negative sense - he was a player that we did not need in terms of the position. I would call it luxury, however, i see the sentiment behind "novelty".

As for Woodward, one decent signing out of plenty of mistakes last summer does not redeem him. By all means provide a balance to the argument but the guy has A LOT to prove.
I think by now it's very clear that Moyes was the guilty party behind the shambles of last summer. It's not Woody who decided against Thiago, Garay, Strootman etc. So far my only critique of Woody is that he (or someone close to him) is a bit too media friendly.
 
Moyes in supporting new Chief Exec shocker. What was he going to do - blame him? No chance.

Wherever the blame lies, the right decision was made. Herrera would never have single handedly saved our season and his release clause was only £6.5m short of Mata's price. I know who I would rather have had.
 
Moyes in supporting new Chief Exec shocker. What was he going to do - blame him? No chance.

Huh? Really. The same happened with Thiago (Moyes veto'd that). And other signings that were lined up under Sir Alex. He was also the one who delayed the Fellaini transfer until the last second thus costing us missing the release clause simply because he wanted both Baines and Fellaini. Fact is, if rumours are to believed, we were in advanced talks for several players which Moyes identified for this window but he got fired and now van Gaal has his own targets meaning Woodward starts from scratch again. I'll judge Woodward at the end of this window.
 
Wherever the blame lies, the right decision was made. Herrera would never have single handedly saved our season and his release clause was only £6.5m short of Mata's price. I know who I would rather have had.

Who? Mata? They don't even play the same position
 
We will have to agree to disagree mate. As for us spending big, i will believe it when i see it.
Fair enough. I see the point you're making though. I just feel that the Woodward criticism comes from some of us still under the after effects of the Moyes debacle.
 
Fair enough. I see the point you're making though. I just feel that the Woodward criticism comes from some of us still under the after effects of the Moyes debacle.

That's how I feel. I'm giving Woody until end of this window as I'm sure van Gaal was crystal clear on his targets. De Telegraaf reported several meetings we had with him and how he relayed the plans and transfer targets. Let's see how it pans out. Early days yet.
 
Fair enough. I see the point you're making though. I just feel that the Woodward criticism comes from some of us still under the after effects of the Moyes debacle.


We shall see. I reckon he will be blaming the WC next season as opposed taking responsibility.
 
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