Nani's penalty was pressure personified. Always will have massive respect for him for standing up as a youngster like that. (Both himself and Anderson, actually.)
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Nani's penalty was pressure personified. Always will have massive respect for him for standing up as a youngster like that. (Both himself and Anderson, actually.)
Best case scenario is Spurs and Arsenal trying to outbid eachother maybe drive the fee up to £20m
Welbeck much more saleable on the wages he is on, and we need to get a decent transfer fee in at some point this summer, if we won't sell to a top 6 side it limits things but reckon we could get £20 million + for him.
Plus Hernandez would be a better impact player off the bench, and would arguably be happier on the bench then Welbeck.
Personally think we'll sell Welbeck, Kagawa, and Zaha before the window closes, expendable saleable players.
Aye, fair enough. Anderson's was emphatic, not bad for your only touch in a champions league final that.
Originated from the Express who just parroted it from Paul Scholes' article.
Blind, De Jong and Khedira are all much more likely targets.
Blind, De Jong and Khedira are all much more likely targets.
Ahem
The only manager who should/would say this is Simeone. I honestly don't know how he came up to that conclusion.
It's not just down to money. It's also down to Gerrard slipping.
Rooney, RVP here he serves no function as a striker, Di Maria coming he'll serve no function as a winger. He is not good enough to start for us in whatever system we'll play and he probably won't want to be a sub for his entire career, he is at an age that he needs to play and I think LVG can't guarantee him that, so he might want to leave and we might not be willing to stand in his way, probably our only demand is not to a direct competitor and hopefully for a fair fee.
He's not completely wrong. It is down to United having the worst injury record in the league in 2012 and City having the best to win on goal difference, and Gerrard falling on his arse in 2014. But money was the only reason they were able to take advantage of both.
He has got to be mis-quoted there or something...They have spent nearly a billion of a fecking Sheik's personal fortune for Christ's sake!
There aren't any clubs outside the top 6 who can afford pay you £20m for Welbeck. And I doubt there any top 6 sides who'd be willing to pay you £20m.
He'd be worth a £20m fee for Spurs, though I know they wouldn't pay it.
I know that opposition fans generally don't rate him as high as those here, but he had a very good spell in the middle last year and he brings far more than goals. Given a real chance and a constant position up front for someone and he'd get 20 goals + a season I'm sure of it.
He'd suit Pochettino down to the ground. If he wants to press from the front then you don't find many better than Welbeck, and he'd bring real pace to the side. His hold up play is decent too, his only real issue is composure when he has time to think. His quick link up play and instinctive finishing are great, but whether it's a square or a one-on-one he seems to make the wrong decision. You'd hope that'd improve massively given the confidence of being first choice at a good club.
Ow it is definitley down to money, but you got to give it to them they invested well in players like Kompany, Zaba, Touré, Silva, Aguero, those players have been worth every penny. They invested tons just at the takeover, alot of which was wasted on sub par players, then they invested loads in players that really improved them and brought them to the level they are now, but once they caught up with us and build the backbone of their team the silly investments stopped, they haven't really bought more than other teams in the league since then. My point being the massive spending was a strategy to catch up but now they caught up, their spending isn't so massive anymore and they have bought some decent players for their money. So yea without money they wouldn't have been where they are now but it has also been down to good management from the club because they really build something sustainable in the last couple of years with that money in order that they don't need to keep on investing for the rest of the future to remain succesfull. They certainly aren't a club anymore that is ran by a bunch of very rich muppets with dollar signs in their eyes and brains the size of a peanut.
For every Kompany there's a Lescott (22m)
For every Ageuro there's an Adebayor (25m)
For every Silva there's a Robinho (32m)
For every Toure there's a Milner (26m)
For every Ageuro there's an Adebayor (25m)
For every Silva there's a Robinho (32m)
For every Toure there's a Milner (26m)
That can be said for every single top team out there.
I'd actually be happy to see Welbeck at Spurs ... and maybe he'll end up with us. But you're right, I can't see us paying £20m for him.
Why not? you squeezed £30 Million out of United for Berbatov.
Well, probably not over such a short period of time, no - I doubt it. But that was the only way for them to get to where they are to be fair..
But yeah, every club will have those bad signings and if someone made the claim about United spending well I'd expect every City fan in the world to go 'ahem, Fellaini'
But we have to admit they bought some really good players cheaply. Especially in the last transfer windows they didn't overspent on the players to much. They did when they started the "project" but after they established themselves into top 4-5 they started spending their money visely. Maybe because they offered more wages than other but they got the right players and build a team which is favorite to win the league even with almost none new first eleven players this season.
All you have to know is that their record signing is "only" 38m pounds for Aguero who was worth it. It doesn't come even close to Real, Barca, PSG, Monaco, Chelsea and maybe (if we sign Di Maria) ours transfer record.
To be fair I expect every fan of every club to throw that at me in any pub/net discussion for the rest of my life. I can't see something like that ever being forgotten. Taibi anyone?
They most definitely have done some great business, no doubt about it. Some of their signings before making top 4 (Toure and Silva in particular) were brilliant.
Including us, in fact for every RVP there has been a Berbatov, Valencia, Young, Bébé, Obertan, Zaha etc, hell RVP might be the only decent signing we have to this side since the time we did deals like buying a young Ronaldo and investing in players like Rooney, Vidic, Evra etc.
There are very few clubs out there that get more right than wrong on the transfermarket and I don't think there are any here in england certainly not at the top and all things considered I don't think City is one of the worst in that respect, seeing how big of a gap they have cover with us and Chelsea and how much business they did in those years.
I'm not talking about failed transfers but huge fees, which doesn't really apply to ours except Berbatov (who was top scorer in the league one year) and then Fellaini (who weirdly you didn't list). In a short space of time they spent a ridiculous amount on some very very average players and I'm not sure any of the other teams would have comparable lists really.
It was said in light humour anyway. As I've acknowledged it was all they could really do. They needed to get the players to get them close enough but the top players wouldn't come. Chelsea made some similar signings when Abramovic came in. But to say that they've spent that money wisely? They chucked money around and saw what stuck, and some ended up being very good business. Likely a similar story to us under Woodward it seems.
Milner cost 26 mil £ ??
Yeah I think so. To be fair, he's been of far more use to them than we'll likely ever get from Fellaini.
Oh definitely, but still! English players!!
Welbeck would be very effective for Everton, I think. He could play the false 9 role Naismith plays but with added pace and more clever link play. Also a bigger aerial target in the box.
Mirallas--------------Lukaku---- (Atsu. McGeady)
------------Welbeck------------- (Naismith)
---Barkley-------------------------(Osman, Pieenar)
--------Barry--Mccarthy----------(Besic, Gibson)
Baines------------------Coleman-(Oviedo, Stones)
---------Distin-Jagielka-----------(Stones)
------------Howard----------------
And they really might get the CL football Martinez promised. Not a lot wrong with that lineup. Pace and goalscoring across the front 3, Barkley charging forward, Martinez covering forward and Barry looked like a cross between Beckenbauer and Paul Scholes today, so who the feck knows.
I found Arsenal-Everton a bit depressing in that both teams looked miles ahead of us.
Mirallas--------------Lukaku---- (Atsu. McGeady)
------------Welbeck------------- (Naismith)
---Barkley-------------------------(Osman, Pieenar)
--------Barry--Mccarthy----------(Besic, Gibson)
Baines------------------Coleman-(Oviedo, Stones)
---------Distin-Jagielka-----------(Stones)
------------Howard----------------
And they really might get the CL football Martinez promised. Not a lot wrong with that lineup. Pace and goalscoring across the front 3, Barkley charging forward, Martinez covering forward and Barry looked like a cross between Beckenbauer and Paul Scholes today, so who the feck knows.
I found Arsenal-Everton a bit depressing in that both teams looked miles ahead of us.
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Fred lol.
Whatever happened to Damiao though ? I thought he was supposed to be good and bit hampered by injuries recently. Probably stagnated staying in Brazil too long as well.
Remember the Perenial Spurs attempt to buy him every window.
Whatever happened to Damiao though ? I thought he was supposed to be good and bit hampered by injuries recently. Probably stagnated staying in Brazil too long as well.
Remember the Perenial Spurs attempt to buy him every window.
What about Welbeck's demands? If he was to leave, he will want to be the main striker, not be second fiddle to Lukaku!
Everton will not be his destination if he leaves. Tottenham are the highest quality club he would go to- he would fit perfectly with their philosophy. People really under-rate Welbeck's technical ability in his inter-play.
If we are signing Di Maria (which is looking more likely) we'll probably switch to a 4-3-3, so I really don't see why we'd let him leave.
Di Maria, Januzaj, Welbeck and Valencia would be a great group of wingers; every one of them has pace and can beat a man. He'd get plenty of games as well.
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